The US should handover Quran burners to face Afghan law

[twilight]

Would Pakistan and Afghanistan handover the Perpetrators who Burn the American Flag and Chant Death to America?

Are you comparing Qur'an with American flag !?

 

[Awesome]

Are you comparing Qur'an with American flag !?

Also the issue goes further since the act by military officers makes the American state liable for all consequences.

 

[gambit]

Would Pakistan and Afghanistan handover the Perpetrators who Burn the American Flag and Chant Death to America?

If it causes riots and loss of life, then they are bound to have them prosecuted.

Give US a break. The Taliban would not even eject Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan before 9/11 and look at how many lives lost because of Afghanistan being a safe haven for Islamic terrorism. And you really expect me to believe that mere flag burnings would be morally repulsive to muslims?

 

[Awesome]

Give US a break. The Taliban would not even eject Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan before 9/11 and look at how many lives lost because of Afghanistan being a safe haven for Islamic terrorism. And you really expect me to believe that mere flag burnings would be morally repulsive to muslims?

Even with that argument I think America causes deaths of more people in making the world a safer place, than the number of people the world would kill by being a dangerous place.

Thanks but no thanks - get out.

 

[RazPaK]

See Asim, the difference between us and the US, is that they actually care about the individual life of each their citizens. There is no way in hell they would hand over the soldiers.

 

[ashokdeiva]

Are you comparing Qur'an with American flag !?

why not, both are man made artifacts to which one sect have a religious sentiment and the other sect have a nationalistic sentiment.
I am a HINDU, it does not affect me if some one burns the Gita, its up to the individual rights. when one buys a book or a flag it becomes his/hers. one can do nothing when the owner of an artifact desides to tear it or burn it or pee on it.

 

[anon45]

Let's face it, the Quran burners were not some high school kids who did not know of the consequence of doing so in a country like Afghanistan.

This was intentional incitement of riots and has resulted in such, lives have been lost - more Afghan than American, and the American president yet again shields Americans from prosecution by foreign law, when the crime has been committed against a foreign country (we all know Raymond Davis saw no prosecution in the US).

Americans are in this region only to create trouble, I'm glad Afghanistan is realizing to this undeniable fact and the sooner we both realize this and work together with one goal - kick America out - the sooner we will move towards resolution of mutual affairs and prosper.

The test of American seriousness with Afghanistan would be if they hand over the culprits to face Afghan law or not. Will Afghanistan sit and watch as they abuse their system like they have in Pakistan?

No ones going to willingly hand over their countrymen so you can get your kicks watching them die or face bodily mutilation for burning books.

 

[53fd]

The American public & troops are getting increasingly agitated with the war, & their views on Muslims (esp Afghan Muslims)/Islam going downhill (which is the reason for the blatant disrespect & sheer foolishness). This attitude will only result in the unraveling of their military operations in Afghanistan. They are only digging their own graves acting like this. Obama is stuck in no-man's land, as he is still pursuing an unpopular war, & is getting chastisized by the American public for his apology. Obama's apology is falling on deaf ears in Afghanistan, & Obama is stuck in the middle of a quagmire.

 

[Awesome]

why not, both are man made artifacts to which one sect have a religious sentiment and the other sect have a nationalistic sentiment.
I am a HINDU, it does not affect me if some one burns the Gita, its up to the individual rights. when one buys a book or a flag it becomes his/hers. one can do nothing when the owner of an artifact desides to tear it or burn it or pee on it.

The issue here is not that it affects you or not - You are not getting a chance of engaging in a philosophical debate with all of Afghanistan whether or not personal beliefs should be detached in dealing with these circumstances. In Afghanistan it can be said without a shadow of doubt if you do this you are an enemy for life - as far as I have seen it causes comparable outrage in India as well, btw. Not with you, but with many still...

The issue here is that with full knowledge in a place like Afghanistan you have incited rioting - leading to deaths of now over 30 people, should you not be punished for causing deaths? Forget flags, and paper - isn't human life sacred?

To top it all off, Afghanistan is governed by Islamic jurisprudence - which mandates punishment for the guilty.

 

[Hack-Hook]

why not, both are man made artifacts to which one sect have a religious sentiment and the other sect have a nationalistic sentiment.
I am a HINDU, it does not affect me if some one burns the Gita, its up to the individual rights. when one buys a book or a flag it becomes his/hers. one can do nothing when the owner of an artifact desides to tear it or burn it or pee on it.

well as you say something are man made ans perhaps
some are not, also something my have some holiness
associated with it and something don't have that aspect.

The Quran book itself maybe man made but
the text and what's written in It is Direct God's
Message and not any man made text

 

[Awesome]

No ones going to willingly hand over their countrymen so you can get your kicks watching them die or face bodily mutilation for burning books.

You think I didn't know that before I created this thread? Thank you for confirming the reality of America. There is nothing that America can do other than to handover these personnel... The rest has to be done by Afghans.

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See Asim, the difference between us and the US, is that they actually care about the individual life of each their citizens. There is no way in hell they would hand over the soldiers.

I agree, if Afghans and Pakistanis themselves think they are worthless scum that deserve to be treated this way - America will continue to do this to us. The only solution is to rise in revolt.

 

[killerx]

These afghans first welcomed us to get rid of taliban and now they are protesting upon burning of quran now one would dare to burn quran in taliban regime

 

[ashokdeiva]

well as you say something are man made ans perhaps
some are not, also something my have some holiness
associated with it and something don't have that aspect.

The Quran book itself maybe man made but
the text and what's written in It is Direct God's
Message and not any man made text

Sorry Buddy, from what I have read and heared, the prophets told sentences that were written to be made as books.
I don't think that any of the holy books have the hand-writing of the God/Gods.

 

[ashokdeiva]

The issue here is not that it affects you or not - You are not getting a chance of engaging in a philosophical debate with all of Afghanistan whether or not personal beliefs should be detached in dealing with these circumstances. In Afghanistan it can be said without a shadow of doubt if you do this you are an enemy for life - as far as I have seen it causes comparable outrage in India as well, btw. Not with you, but with many still...

The issue here is that with full knowledge in a place like Afghanistan you have incited rioting - leading to deaths of now over 30 people, should you not be punished for causing deaths? Forget flags, and paper - isn't human life sacred?

To top it all off, Afghanistan is governed by Islamic jurisprudence - which mandates punishment for the guilty.

The case of INDIA is totally more tolerant from the begining for destroying man made artifacts. A riot happens in INDIA only when a loss of life triggers such a event.
For example the 1984 riot on SIKHS was triggered because the PM of a nation was murdered by two SIKHS, planned by the Kalistan movement.
The Gujarat riots happened when a train full of kar sevaks were burnt to death.
In INDIA, any riot started by DHARMIC religion is when there has been a loss of life that acted as a outrage or trigger.


As far as the Afgan case were 30 + people died, they should have questioned themself is it worth to kill 30 fellow country men for a book.

 

[ares]

The US should handover Quran burners to face Afghan law

1) Do US armed forces personnel stationed in Afghanistan or for that matter anywhere else in the world come under US jurisdiction or the host country's jurisdiction?

2) Does US have any blasphemy laws?

3) Raymond Davis was acquitted by Pakistani courts as per Pakistani law ..US courts can not sentence personnel for crimes committed on Pakistani territory against Pakistani citizens especially after he has been acquitted under Pakistani law.