The US & NATO forces have made Afghanistan less safer

[53fd]

Let us go over the events over the past 6 days:

May 23: 4 Nato soldiers killed, 14 injured in Afghanistan blast (Laghman)

May 23: Uniform-Wearing Militants Kill 6 at Afghan Police Station (Khost)

May 23: 3 cops dead, 4 injured in Herat blast (Herat)

May 23: Jordanian peacekeeper killed, 4 injured in bomb blast (Logar)

May 22: Suicide bombers invade government building, kill 6 (Khost)

May 22: Blast Rocks Afghan Kandahar City (Kandahar)

May 22: 7 killed, wounded in Zabul roadside mine blast (Zabul)

May 21: 6 killed in Afghan hospital blast (Kabul)

May 21: German forces kill 4 Afghan protestors (Kunduz)

May 20: 4 Iowa Guard soldiers hurt in bombing in Afghanistan (Nuristan)

May 19: Taliban Kill 35 Road Workers In Ambush (Paktia)

May 19: Blast Rocks Afghan Kandahar City (Kandahar)

May 19: Explosion kills French soldier (Kapisa)

May 19: Roadside bomb kills 3 Afghan officers (Nimruz)

May 19: 5 killed, wounded in Badghis (Badhgis)

May 19: 14 dead in Jalalabad suicide bombing (Nangarhar)

May 18: Binghamton native killed in Afghanistan (Kunar)

May 18: 12 demonstrators killed in Afghan anti-NATO protest (Takhar)

May 17: 8 ISAF troops killed, wounded in northern Afghanistan (Balkh)

May 17: 2 civilians killed in Kandahar mine blast (Kandahar)

May 17: Coalition supply convoy strikes roadside mine in Ghazni (Ghazni)

May 17: Afghan governor says NATO troops kill a child, wound 4 (Kunar)

There are many more attacks that are either unreported, or I couldn't mention because I couldn't find them. Either ways, the WOT & the US/NATO forces have only made Afghanistan less safer.

The provinces where terrorist attacks have took place in only the past 6 days is shown on this map (with a red cross):

 

[53fd]

As you can see on the map, terrorist attacks in the last 6 days in Afghanistan have taken place from all directions: East, West, North, South. I have just quoted 22 attacks in 18 Afghan provinces over the last 6 days. While the NATO/US Forces are being attacked by the Taliban from the East near the Afghan-Pakistan border, they are also being attacked by AQ & their affiliates from the North (provinces Takhar, Kunduz etc) far from the Afghan border. Afghanistan has also had attacks in its Western provinces of Herat & Badhgis that have nothing to do with Pakistan. So blaming Pakistan for Afghanistan's failures is extremely futile. There is only one constant in the whole Afghanistan scenario: the US-NATO Forces. They have made Afghanistan less safer, & more prone to terrorism.

 

[jeypore]

Let us go over the events over the past 6 days:

May 23: 4 Nato soldiers killed, 14 injured in Afghanistan blast (Laghman)

May 23: Uniform-Wearing Militants Kill 6 at Afghan Police Station (Khost)

May 23: 3 cops dead, 4 injured in Herat blast (Herat)

May 23: Jordanian peacekeeper killed, 4 injured in bomb blast (Logar)

May 22: Suicide bombers invade government building, kill 6 (Khost)

May 22: Blast Rocks Afghan Kandahar City (Kandahar)

May 22: 7 killed, wounded in Zabul roadside mine blast (Zabul)

May 21: 6 killed in Afghan hospital blast (Kabul)

May 21: German forces kill 4 Afghan protestors (Kunduz)

May 20: 4 Iowa Guard soldiers hurt in bombing in Afghanistan (Nuristan)

May 19: Taliban Kill 35 Road Workers In Ambush (Paktia)

May 19: Blast Rocks Afghan Kandahar City (Kandahar)

May 19: Explosion kills French soldier (Kapisa)

May 19: Roadside bomb kills 3 Afghan officers (Nimruz)

May 19: 5 killed, wounded in Badghis (Badhgis)

May 19: 14 dead in Jalalabad suicide bombing (Nangarhar)

May 18: Binghamton native killed in Afghanistan (Kunar)

May 18: 12 demonstrators killed in Afghan anti-NATO protest (Takhar)

May 17: 8 ISAF troops killed, wounded in northern Afghanistan (Balkh)

May 17: 2 civilians killed in Kandahar mine blast (Kandahar)

May 17: Coalition supply convoy strikes roadside mine in Ghazni (Ghazni)

May 17: Afghan governor says NATO troops kill a child, wound 4 (Kunar)

There are many more attacks that are either unreported, or I couldn't mention because I couldn't find them. Either ways, the WOT & the US/NATO forces have only made Afghanistan less safer.

The provinces where terrorist attacks have took place in only the past 6 days is shown on this map (with a red cross):

Can you provide a link to this list!!

Thanks....

 

[53fd]

Can you provide a link to this list!!

Thanks....

There is no one link, I have collected all these reports myself. All of these reports have separate links. You can search these reports yourself if you're interested.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

I think everybody should be asking themselves today in the United States, if Osama bin Laden was hiding in Abbotabad, then why did USA put 50,000 troops in Afghanistan over the last two years?

Alqaida and these terrorist don't have one permanent place and they can hide themselves in any place or in any country so will it be right to inavde entire country ?

 

[jeypore]

There is no one link, I have collected all these reports myself. All of these reports have separate links. You can search these reports yourself if you're interested.

Then sir, I would like to start at the beginning:

May 17: Afghan governor says NATO troops kill a child, wound 4 (Kunar)

Can you provide a link for this.....

 

[53fd]

Then sir, I would like to start at the beginning:



Can you provide a link for this.....

Here are some of the links:

Afghan governor says NATO troops kill a child, wound 4 - AlertNet
Afghan child killed by NATO; 2nd in days | | The Bulletin

Some of the other links:

PressTV - Roadside bomb kills 3 Afghan officers
Wakht News » Five killed, wounded in Badghis 2011-05-19 14:55
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/n...onstrators-killed-in-Afghan-anti-NATO-protest
Wakht News » 8 ISAF troops killed, wounded in northern Afghanistan 2011-05-17 17:09
Daily brief: Fourteen dead in Jalalabad suicide bombing | The AfPak Channel
Channel 6 News » 35 killed in Taliban attack in southeastern Afghanistan
Wakht News » Coalition supply convoy strikes roadside mine in Ghazni 2011-05-17 10:14
Frontier Post :: Afghanistan News :: 3 cops dead, 4 injured in Herat IED blast Zabul explosion claims lives of two women
Blast Rocks Afghan Kandahar City
Wakht News » 2 civilians killed in Kandahar mine blast 2011-05-17 09:23
BBC News - Four Nato soldiers killed in Afghanistan blast
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/world/asia/23afghan.html
Suicide bombers invade Afghan government building - World Wires - MiamiHerald.com
Afghan Suicide Strike Leaves 13 Dead
LaSpecula.com International Weekly Magazine - German forces shoot Afghan protestors
Three dead in violent protests over Afghan deaths - Channel NewsAsia

These are only some of the links. I can post the rest of the links as well, but it'll take a very long time.

 

[53fd]

I think everybody should be asking themselves today in the United States, if Osama bin Laden was hiding in Abbotabad, then why did USA put 50,000 troops in Afghanistan over the last two years?

Alqaida and these terrorist don't have one permanent place and they can hide themselves in any place or in any country so will it be right to inavde entire country ?

Well said.

 

[Developereo]

Top US general 'wrong' on Afghanistan

Julian Borger
May 27, 2011

LONDON: Britain's former ambassador to Afghanistan has criticised the conduct of the war by the US commander, General David Petraeus, describing the future CIA chief's tactics as counterproductive and ''profoundly wrong''.
Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles, who also served as Britain's special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, added that General Petraeus should be ''ashamed of himself'' for making claims of the number of insurgent commanders his forces had killed.
''He has increased the violence, trebled the number of special forces raids by British, American, Dutch and Australian special forces going out killing Taliban commanders, and there has been a lot more rather regrettable boasting from the military about the body count,'' said Sir Sherard. He added that the use of statistics was reminiscent of the Vietnam War. ''It is profoundly wrong and it's not conducive to a stable political settlement.''
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General Petraeus is due to leave Afghanistan to become CIA director this year. Since taking command of US and coalition troops in Afghanistan last June, he has increased the use of special forces raids and drone attacks against Taliban commanders.
Earlier this year General Petraeus told the US Congress that his forces were killing or capturing 360 insurgent leaders every three months. His officers argue that the tactic is demoralising the Taliban and will ultimately make the movement more likely to agree to a peace deal on the terms of Kabul and the West.
Sir Sherard insists the tactic will make it harder for the West to find a political settlement and end the war. ''There is no doubt that General Petraeus has hammered the Taliban extremely hard,'' he said. ''I am sure that some of them are more willing to parley. But, equally, for every dead Pashtun warrior, there will be 10 pledged to revenge.''
He compared the US commander unfavourably with his predecessor, General Stanley McChrystal, whose central approach was to protect Afghan civilians, even if meant greater caution in chasing of the Taliban.
Few serving British and European officials are as critical of General Petraeus as Sir Sherard. Most argue that the Taliban have to be put under some kind of focused military pressure to persuade them that a negotiated settlement was in their interest.
However, there is growing unease in London that, despite orders to the contrary from the US President, Barack Obama, and Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, the military effort was still taking priority.
''There are different parts of the Washington establishment who are pulling in different ways,'' one official said.
''But as long as Petraeus is in Kabul, the military approach will take precedence.''
General Petraeus is expected to leave Afghanistan in September. In any case, there are few expectations of much progress towards contacts with the Taliban until at least the end of the summer fighting season. Most serving officials are also less confident than Sir Sherard that senior ranks in the Taliban are interested in a political settlement.
''In 2011, there have been more feelers coming out from more senior people, but there is no solid evidence that anyone in the movement has been tasked with finding a route to peace,'' one official said.
There have been backdoor attempts to draw the movement into a dialogue, but they have made little progress. ''Why would they negotiate?'' asked Michael Scheuer, the former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit and an expert on the Taliban. ''They are winning; they are no longer ostracised in the Islamic world for links to Osama bin Laden. Why would you throw that away?''
But Mr Scheuer, the author of a new book on Bin Laden, said that General Petraeus's ''decapitation'' approach was also unlikely to work.

Guardian News & Media

 

[jeypore]

Here are some of the links:

Afghan governor says NATO troops kill a child, wound 4 - AlertNet

Apology for late response, since I have been busy lately!!!

Lets start with your first link regarding these deaths of innocent people, here are some highlights of your first link:

Foreign troops killed an Afghan child and wounded four others when responding to insurgent fire in volatile eastern Kunar province,

Insurgents are responsible for well over half of civilian casualties in Afghanistan, figures from the United Nations show,

On Monday an insurgent mortar attack in another Kunar district, Wata Pour, killed three civilians and wounded another eight including four women and two children, the interior ministry said in a statement.

It looks like your are lost in this war on terror!!!!! Whom are truly defending!!!!

 

[53fd]

Apology for late response, since I have been busy lately!!!

Lets start with your first link regarding these deaths of innocent people, here are some highlights of your first link:







It looks like your are lost in this war on terror!!!!! Whom are truly defending!!!!

The point isn't who started the fight. The point is that the US & NATO Forces have only made Afghanistan less safer, & it is showing in the number of attacks the US is facing from all parts of Afghanistan, not just the areas close to the Afghan-Pakistan border.

 

[jeypore]

The point isn't who started the fight. The point is that the US & NATO Forces have only made Afghanistan less safer, & it is showing in the number of attacks the US is facing from all parts of Afghanistan, not just the areas close to the Afghan-Pakistan border.

Yes, I have noticed that great observations, but whom is going to stop them because they are afterall after a purpose in the region..... And you crying, look at how many civilians have been killed has become an old story because that has not worked!!!!!

So Mr. Bilal Major General, There has to be a side taken, which one are you chosing because you have not answered that first?

P.s. Also regarding What US is facing in Afganistan, A President like Obama (Which I do not support), Said that there will be American Presence in Afganistan in Futures to come (not on those exact words but I surely can give link in political lingo...)

 

[53fd]

Yes, I have noticed that great observations, but whom is going to stop them because they are afterall after a purpose in the region..... And you crying, look at how many civilians have been killed has become an old story because that has not worked!!!!!

So Mr. Bilal Major General, There has to be a side taken, which one are you chosing because you have not answered that first?

P.s. Also regarding What US is facing in Afganistan, A President like Obama (Which I do not support), Said that there will be American Presence in Afganistan in Futures to come (not on those exact words but I surely can give link in political lingo...)

The Afghans need to solve their own problems, without the interference from the US & the NATO Forces. The people who are attacking the US/NATO Forces are Afghan nationals. The US/NATO Forces are only aggravating the situation there, & it shows. I suggest you follow this thread:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/109669-rising-us-nato-casualties.html

 

[Roybot]

Do we have figures and media reports from the Taliban Regime era? I don't see how we can make this statement without that figure.

Its the fighting season in Afghanistan as every other summer, and a surge in violence was expected.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Are they leaving?

I believe the new date is 2015.

And they are going to be leaving behind what they call 'Enduring Bases'.