The US just quietly challenged China on something Beijing promised to go to war over

[j20blackdragon]

Who is this woman?

And why is she doing the Roman Salute (Heil Hitler?!) in front of this man's portrait?

Taiwan Presidential Building.

Tiananmen Square

 

[zectech]

The threat is... enough arms sold to the Taiwanese to make it a prolonged war.

The arms sales to Taiwan should the red line. A new Cuban Missile Crisis.

Fascist Italy wanted to go to war against Hitler in the mid 1930s. Nobody else in the League of Nations wanted to go to war. Had Fascist Austria and Fascist Italy invaded Germany early on, the Fascists would still be in Europe. They would have been the victors, this was before Hitler developed the new weapons in violation of the Treaty of Versailles.

Not a complete comparison, but you don't want you enemy to be building up.

So I will not say, 'no to war against Taipei'.

There still exist today, neo-nazis Hitlers (trump) and their puppets in Taipei.

Please stop making a fool of yourself. You have no idea what Taiwanese people believe or think. You probably think present day Egypt can trace its ancestry to ancient Egypt because the name is the same. Overall you're just a very superficial thinker.

http://atlasdna.xyvy.info/country-national-haplogroup-chart-dna/egypt

Egypt's current population is well over 50% Greek/Roman and Arab.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Your brilliance just keeps on growing and glowing.

The US military is set to purchase 478 F-35s...the largest procurement in history. B-21 bombers aren’t far behind.

China needs to get moving!

https://breakingdefense.com/2019/06...as-lockheed-dod-handshake-deal-for-478-f-35s/

 

[gambit]

Any battle for Taiwan is mainly an area denial/air superiority war.

True.

To defend Taiwan, there must be total control of the skies as that will create a vital choke point as China tries to send troops across the channel via ship, helicopter, or large cargo planes.

In this map...

All the US have to do is deny China's access to the seaward side of the island. Taiwan's military survival is assured on that side.

For any landing, PLA forces will be constrained as to the amphibious landing sites whereas Taiwanese defenses are not so constrained. The PLA will have to calculate the total landing forces, subtract the inevitable losses, and what is the remaining necessary forces to subdue the island.

 

[j20blackdragon]

President Ma Ying-jeou (馬英九) yesterday presided over a ceremony in honor of the Yellow Emperor (Huangdi, 黃帝), the mythical ancestor of the Han Chinese,

The Yellow Emperor is an ancestor of all zhonghua minzu (中華民族), or “Chinese people,” the Presidential Office said.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2012/04/04/2003529457

 

[Feng Leng]

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2012/04/04/2003529457

Stop spamming the thread with your bullshit. You have no idea what goes on in Taiwan. They are about as "Chinese" are you are -- which is to say -- not Chinese at all. You are an American.

The Taiwanese see themselves as Taiwanese, not as Chinese

The US military is set to purchase 478 F-35s...the largest procurement in history. B-21 bombers aren’t far behind.

China needs to get moving!

https://breakingdefense.com/2019/06...as-lockheed-dod-handshake-deal-for-478-f-35s/

LOL will these F-35s come with oxygen in the cockpit this time?

Is China capable of doing a naval blockade of Taiwan?

Yes, China can do a naval blockade but the most effective strategy will simply be an air and missile campaign to strike critical targets in China. In my view, tactical nuclear weapons should be used here for maximum effect.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Too many delusional big green kids here. You should know chinese government is so hell bent on promoting Beijing Mandarin as the common Chinese language that it's pissing others off. Taiwanese actors voices are dubbed by a mainland voice actor as well as mainland actors who don't "speak" funny Beijing Mandarin.
Taiwanese is Taiwanese. Chinese is Chinese. Hong Kong people are Hongkies.



Some mainland Chinese posters are just delusional. Almost as bad as Indians.

Most ancient Chinese drama used the voice actors because since some people don't know how to speak like an ancient person.

But I don't think it should be necessary, because the Beijing Mandarin was formed in the late Ming Dynasty, then introduced by the Qing Dynasty as the standard Chinese dialect.

BTW, the Beijing Mandarin is now the standard dialect for the sake of conformity, but other Chinese dialects have the right to be preserved as well.

Yes, China can do a naval blockade but the most effective strategy will simply be an air and missile campaign to strike critical targets in China. In my view, tactical nuclear weapons should be used here for maximum effect.

Taiwan alone cannot sustain for more than 1-2 days, but China is now preparing for something else, AKA the worst scenario case.

 

[Feng Leng]

Taiwan alone cannot sustain for more than 1-2 days, but China is now preparing for something else, AKA the worst scenario case.

The Americans already built their underground consulate in Taipei. It will take a bunker buster to destroy that one on the first day of the conflict.

There is no doubt in my mind that the conflict will proceed in rapidly escalating phases of attack and counter-attack. Our SSBN need to be on patrol in deep waters on stand-by to launch. Probably the Americans will not give up on their Taiwan adventure until their West Coast cities take a direct hit from a JL-2.

That is why I believe tactical nuclear weapons need to be used against Taiwan on the first day of war, hitting all DPP political centers and military bases. Boldly cross the nuclear threshold to show the world we are ready to take on any aggressor.

 

[j20blackdragon]

 

[zn426]

The Americans already built their underground consulate in Taipei. It will take a bunker buster to destroy that one on the first day of the conflict.

There is no doubt in my mind that the conflict will proceed in rapidly escalating phases of attack and counter-attack. Our SSBN need to be on patrol in deep waters on stand-by to launch. Probably the Americans will not give up on their Taiwan adventure until their West Coast cities take a direct hit from a JL-2.

That is why I believe tactical nuclear weapons need to be used against Taiwan on the first day of war, hitting all DPP political centers and military bases. Boldly cross the nuclear threshold to show the world we are ready to take on any aggressor.

Do you have any idea what you're saying? If China opens Pandora's box, you think the US won't respond? If China drops nuclear weapons on LA, San Francisco, or Seattle then the next ones will fall on Shanghai and Beijing...and the rest of the world will open fire thereafter-resulting in humanity's extinction.

If you apply even tactical nuclear weapons against Taiwan, then you open yourself to similar reprisals on you and in a highly populated island like Taiwan, the death toll will be so high as to invite very severe reprisals. Your words are those of an amoral thug ready to murder simply for the sake of murdering. SHAME ON YOU!

 

[American Pakistani]

As a well wisher of China, I will advise it to showcase it's naval power in indian ocean region.

Countries want to limit China to south China Sea region so that it's focus doesn't go on other areas, China should realize this and plan of taking the fight to Indian Ocean this way china's adversaries get distracted.

 

[Feng Leng]

Do you have any idea what you're saying? If China opens Pandora's box, you think the US won't respond? If China drops nuclear weapons on LA, San Francisco, or Seattle then the next ones will fall on Shanghai and Beijing...and the rest of the world will open fire thereafter-resulting in humanity's extinction.

If you apply even tactical nuclear weapons against Taiwan, then you open yourself to similar reprisals on you and in a highly populated island like Taiwan, the death toll will be so high as to invite very severe reprisals. Your words are those of an amoral thug ready to murder simply for the sake of murdering. SHAME ON YOU!

The US can either stand down after LA is nuked... or else New York City is next

 

[zn426]

The US can either stand down after LA is nuked... or else New York City is next

I've said my case. I have no need to discuss things with a thug advocating for mass murder like you any longer. Consider yourself blocked.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Americans already built their underground consulate in Taipei. It will take a bunker buster to destroy that one on the first day of the conflict.

There is no doubt in my mind that the conflict will proceed in rapidly escalating phases of attack and counter-attack. Our SSBN need to be on patrol in deep waters on stand-by to launch. Probably the Americans will not give up on their Taiwan adventure until their West Coast cities take a direct hit from a JL-2.

That is why I believe tactical nuclear weapons need to be used against Taiwan on the first day of war, hitting all DPP political centers and military bases. Boldly cross the nuclear threshold to show the world we are ready to take on any aggressor.

Check the opinion from a big shrimp.

https://www.sohu.com/a/319863472_600506

 

[j20blackdragon]

Of course it is. It has a hostile military towards mainland. It has a hostile government that is more willing to offer Taiwan to some other global powers as a military base. Don't underestimate their hatred towards Chinese. THEY ARE NOT CHINESE!

Still want to convince me that Taiwanese are Chinese?

You have no idea what goes on in Taiwan. They are about as "Chinese" are you are -- which is to say -- not Chinese at all.

Let me give you two the actual legal position of the PRC concerning Taiwan.

Preamble of the Constitution:
Taiwan is part of the sacred territory of the People's Republic of China. It is the lofty duty of the entire Chinese people, including our compatriots in Taiwan, to accomplish the great task of reunifying the motherland.

Anti-Secession Law:
Article 2:
There is only one China in the world. Both the mainland and Taiwan belong to one China. China's sovereignty and territorial integrity brook no division. Safeguarding China's sovereignty and territorial integrity is the common obligation of all Chinese people, the Taiwan compatriots included.

If you don't agree, deal with Xi.