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The U.S. warms to a role for China in resolving the Ukraine war​

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By David Ignatius
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May 3, 2023 at 6:23 p.m. EDT

Secretary of State Antony Blinken in March. (Demetrius Freeman/The Washington Post)



The Biden administration appears to be weighing whether to work with China to seek a negotiated settlement of the Ukraine war after what U.S. officials predict will be Ukrainian gains in their long-planned offensive.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken publicly described the administration’s views in a Washington Post Live interview Wednesday to mark World Press Freedom Day. His comments echoed what senior officials have been saying privately in recent days about potential American and Chinese cooperation to mediate the brutal conflict.

The predicate for any such diplomatic effort would be Ukrainian gains on the battlefield, which could put Kyiv in a stronger bargaining position. Asked about Kyiv’s prospects in its anticipated counterstrike in eastern Ukraine, Blinken answered: “I feel confident that they will have success in regaining more of their territory, and I think it’s also important to note that for Russia, this is already a strategic failure.”

When I asked Blinken about working with China to achieve a stable outcome in Ukraine, he gave a surprisingly frank answer: “In principle, there’s nothing wrong with that if we have a country, whether it’s China or other countries that have significant influence that are prepared to pursue a just and durable peace. … We would welcome that, and it’s certainly possible that China would have a role to play in that effort. And that could be very beneficial.”

Blinken said there were some “positive” items in the 12-point peace plan that China announced in February. The Chinese proposals includes respecting “the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of all countries,” which implies a Russian troop withdrawal; “reducing strategic risks” and agreeing that “nuclear weapons must not be used”; and taking steps “to gradually de-escalate the situation and ultimately reach a comprehensive cease fire.”

Ukraine wants China to play a mediating role, and President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke last week by phone with President Xi Jinping. Zelensky said later that the two had discussed how to achieve a “just and sustainable peace,” without territorial compromises by Ukraine. A Chinese readout stressed that “all parties should seize the opportunity to accumulate favorable conditions for a political solution to the crisis.”

Blinken said Wednesday that the Xi-Zelensky call was “a positive thing, because it’s vitally important that China and other countries that have been seeking to advance peace hear from the victim, not just the aggressor.”

Russia has been unhappy with the Chinese mediation effort, several administration officials told me. But Moscow, subordinate to Beijing economically and militarily, can’t easily resist China’s wishes. That’s one reason administration officials are intrigued by Chinese peace efforts; they believe they might prevent Russia from trying to renew the war later — after a pause. “The only stability is China as a guarantor,” one official told me.

Discussing any durable peace effort, Blinken said “it has to basically reflect the principles that are at the heart of the United Nations charter when it comes to territorial integrity, when it comes to sovereignty. It can’t ratify what Russia has done, which is the seizure of so much of Ukraine’s territory. And it needs to be durable in the sense that we don’t want this to land in a place where Russia can simply rest, refit and reattack six months later or a year later.”

Blinken continued: “As a matter of principle, countries, particularly countries with significant influence like China, if they’re willing to play a positive role in trying to bring peace, that would be a good thing. But it starts fundamentally with Vladimir Putin actually making that fundamental decision. We’ve not seen that yet.”

Blinken’s public expression of interest in a possible Chinese mediating role is part of a broader effort to define what he likes to call a “cooperation basket” between the two countries in what is otherwise an increasingly competitive relationship. He said he was hopeful that he might be able to reschedule a trip to China that was postponed after February’s spy balloon incident. Other American diplomatic contacts with China are also underway.

“There’s a clear demand signal from around the world that we manage this relationship responsibly — a demand signal on us but also on Beijing,” Blinken said. “And that starts with engagement. … At the very least, we need to have a floor under this relationship. We need to have some guardrails on it, and the way to do that is through engagement.”

Administration officials are still debating whether a parallel U.S.-China peace effort might validate a broader Chinese role in Europe at a time when the United States has been trying to keep European allies from making sweetheart deals with Beijing. But when even Zelensky — who depends on U.S. military aid for his country’s survival — is welcoming contact with Xi, excluding China might be unrealistic.

A better strategy, toward which the administration seems to be leaning, is to acknowledge Beijing’s role but insist it must act responsibly to be treated as a great power. China could start by encouraging a just peace in Ukraine.


 
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of course we will mediate in a way that weakens US the most diplomatically. America demographic issue + 1000slow cuts is what takes down the giant and make him into worm food.
 
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How quickly the US change its mind. Just weeks ago, when China put out the 12-point peace plan for the Ukraine war, the US gov, media and some morons on the forum were ridiculing the peace plan as trash. What has happened to the US gov for the change of tone ?
 
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Leaked documents reveal US's true face in hindering world peace​

2023-05-08 15:34:20

Recently, a large batch of classified US documents has been disseminated widely in social media. According to US media reports, the contents of the leaked documents, partly classified as Top Secret, include deployment of weaponry, battlefield maps and casualty numbers in Russia-Ukraine conflict. This scandal reveals America’s deep involvement in the Ukrainian crisis, and the fact that the US has long used its tech edge to conduct indiscriminate secret theft, surveillance and eavesdropping on countries in the world, including its allies.

Being the biggest hacker in the world, the US government has long been spying on its own citizens, as well as people around the world, in any way possible to steal all kinds of data, whether it’s in violation of the sovereignty of other countries or not.

The New York Times noted that the leaked documents included discussions within the South Korean government about selling artillery ammunition to Kiev, which implied that the US has been trying to catch the latest intelligence of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, so as to manipulate the situation behind the scenes. South Korea's Korean Nation Daily commented that US monitoring other countries on sensitive issues has greatly undermined their national interests.

The US has been a hardened criminal. Years ago, the Pentagon was involved in scandals of wiretapping Vietnam and Iraq. In 2013, documents released by Snowden, the former agent of US National Security Agency, revealed that for years, the US had been tracking and tapping the phones of foreign leaders and stealing information about cell phone activity around the world, collecting as many as 5 billion records a day. Bunch of scandals, such as spying on allied countries, Prism Project, WikiLeaks, and the leaked documents this time, are irrefutable evidence that the US government has never stopped infringing the security information of other countries for its own selfish reasons.

More and more countries hope for an early peaceful ending of the Russia-Ukraine conflict which has lasted for more than one year. Two month earlier China released China’s Position on the Political Settlement of the Ukraine Crisis and advocated a peaceful resolution of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, which has gained many supports from peace-loving countries in the world. Leaders from both Russia and Ukraine expressed appreciation for China’s approach to promoting dialogue and peaceful talks.

In stark contrast, some countries such as the US are still expanding their arms sales and adding fuel to the fire. The US is not interested in achieving peace in Ukraine, and what they want is nothing but to prolong the conflict and serve their selfish interests. US Defense Secretary Austin confessed in Poland last April that they wanted to see Russia weakened. US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken claimed US authorities saw no chance for cease-fire negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. White House security spokesman John Kirby shamelessly stated that a cease-fire violated the UN charter. This is a complete disregard for international conventions and trampling on the sovereignty of other countries, and the US has clearly put the pursuit of peace for all mankind behind its own ambitions.

The revelation of US wiretapping and involvement in the Russia-Ukraine conflict further shows the shameful side of the US in promoting war. China and other peace-loving parties in the world are committed to promoting peace and talks, while the US side keeps adding fuel to the fire and taking advantage of the conflict to make profits, which reveals the US’s true face in hindering world peace.

 
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China wants Russia to keep 20% of Ukraines which the Americans are against at all costs they believe it would be rinse and repeat for the Russians
 
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