why my heart says to believe in you..
well one thing you need to understand is that the uk and pakistan do have a good relationship (most of which is kept behind closed doors, regardless of what is said publicly) yes we probably did offer it to them but, can they afford it, they know too well they will get export variant kit, unless they get some agreement to ensure they dont fall in the wrong hands(Chinese) and finally support from parliament which is a no brainer as they is a huge Pakistan population here and some mp's will be wise to say yes. and why not, it's bringing money to the country.
what buys a 052C with only Chinese systems?
To be honest I don't think even the lighter frigate would be considered. The last I heard about the PN's new frigate aspirations was that it'd be a homebuilt platform developed with Chinese assistance. I reckon we're looking at the CSOC High Performance Frigate (3500 tons) platform as the baseline. Where Britain could fit is in the department of subsystems, most notably the CAMM-ER. To be honest, this is the best approach. Build a cost effective hull, top it up with premium electronics and weapons.
not really, but dreaming it not illegal right? i know too well your in no position to buy weapons from us. littoral ships is somthing you guys will be looking at(f100). even that is too ambitious. i know you will go for our type 23's if not then your in deep trouble. the f22p's are to be honest not even worthy to be called frigates but large corvettes instead. and the type 21's you have are only good to be scrapped and the single perry class frigate has little in terms of weaponry. you guys need some new ships pronto. the only surface ships i like from pakistan is the azmat class fac's. but our type 23 will begine retirement in about 5 years, so does that mean you guys will contiue to have the vintage type 21?
The new frigate will be known as the Type 31, let's see how attractive they make it for the market. In any case, the PN will need newer used frigates to replace the Type 21s, but it'll probably be a mix of used frigates which might include the Type 23s. In other words, the PN will likely pursue frigates from Italy and other places too. Whatever it takes to hold the fort down until a new standardized frigate platform is in the pipeline.
dont you feel embarrassed that you have to buy used instead of new? yes the type 23 is a good ship but surely your navy is weak and india knows this too. you navy wont last long if involved in a conflict with india. about a week tops excluding thr 90b's.
the a70's are old and in need to be scrapped. you were initailly going for 6 ssks but you went for 2 more to replace the a70's. yes the a90b's are the only subs i like. and they are the only aip subs in the indian ocean and the arabian sea.
Only if you are talking about second hand assets, I think @kaykay assumed you were talking about purchasing brand new Type 45s.
In that case you are out of your mind. The PN's CAPEX budget is <$500 million USD, these ships will cost >$1.5 billion USD today. In what world can the PN afford even one of these ships?
