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The Shape of Islamic Things to Come...

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The Austrian city of Salzburg is facing an increasingly Islamic future. The city’s religious makeup will become much more diverse over the next two decades, with some of the changes due the immigration of German Protestants. The largest factor in the current demographic shift, however, is the influx of Turkish immigrants and their descendants.

Many thanks to Hermes for translating this article from Salzburger Fenster:


Salzburg in 2030: An increasing religious diversity

The number of Catholics decreases to 50%

The number of Muslims will increase steadily in the country until 2030, and also the number of Protestants. More and more of them are taking leading positions.

[Photo caption: Empty churches — 60 years ago 9 out of 10 inhabitants of Salzburg were Catholics. It’s likely that by 2030 only half of the population will remain so.]

The number of Catholics amongst the population of Salzburg will continue to decrease. And remarkably. This is what calculations made by the Robert Jungk Library for questions regarding the future in Salzburg predict. "We in Salzburg have now reached the low level of 50% Catholic. We’ll see this trend also in the other districts until 2030”, a member of the JBZ, Stefan Wally explains. The reasons are many. On one hand, in recent decades many citizens of Salzburg have turned away from the Catholic church (In 1951 89% were Catholics, in 2001 only 74%). On the other hand, the arrival of Islam in Salzburg in the 1970s with the foreign workers — a religion to which about 10% of the population currently belong to. It is mainly because the Turkish families have more children on average than the Austrians that the number of Muslims increases so notably. This will not change in the near future. Over the long term the birth rate should decrease also in the Turkish community. "In Turkey women have only 2.1 children because of increasing living standards. This also happens in Salzburg”, Wally says.



The researchers of the JBZ see that the immigrants and their children and grandchildren will take new positions towards the year 2030: Their formative level gets higher. Children from immigrants are proportionally overrepresented in business schools and academies. "They will occupy leading positions in an ever increasing number of companies in the next 20 years”, Wally says. The youth organizations of the ÖVP and the SPÖ in Salzburg are already led by young citizens from Salzburg with Arab or Turkish roots.

Moreover, the biggest immigrant community in the country, the German Protestants (they were 4.3% in 2001) will cause an increase in the number of Protestants in Salzburg.
The Shape of Islamic Things to Come | EuropeNews
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1 to 1.5 % of any population is schizophrenic ---regardless of ethnicity, race etc. ........
 
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Guys avoid religious threads...it results into bitterness oftenly. Also, its a banned topic.
 
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The OP must be another insecure desperate Christian :lol:

Posting from such anti-Islamic loon blog? wow! lols...
 
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Europeans can be pretty ruthless when they even feel their idealogy is under threat. Muslims [in Europe] watch out.
 
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Europeans can be pretty ruthless when they even feel their idealogy is under threat. Muslims [in Europe] watch out.

This theory have been debunked couple of times... Your "ruthless" Europeans don't even have any ideology to counter Islam...Islam is just a simple pure religion...why would Europeans have any problem with that? (Unless offcourse you are one of those lunatic brainless Christian who thinks "Muslims want to take over" blah blah) .... Islam isn't like communism , which was against Western reason and democracy... Western conditions are perfect for Islam---religious freedom , personal liberty , freedom of choice , rationalism , and social security... all these things provide perfect space for Islam to grow itself...Islam has a great future in the West, Inshallah ...

Rationality + Faith = European Islam ...
 
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This theory have been debunked couple of times... Your "ruthless" Europeans don't even have any ideology to counter Islam...Islam is just a simple pure religion...why would Europeans have any problem with that? (Unless offcourse you are one of those lunatic brainless Christian who thinks "Muslims want to take over" blah blah) .... Islam isn't like communism , which was against Western reason and democracy... Western conditions are perfect for Islam---religious freedom , personal liberty , freedom of choice , rationalism , and social security... all these things provide perfect space for Islam to grow itself...Islam has a great future in the West, Inshallah ...

Rationality + Faith = European Islam ...

Whatever man - Europeans may be materialistically developed but at heart they remain the same. Very tribal and very guarding and possessive of what they call "their way of life", one that bases itself from the Greco-Roman civilizations and guided by Judeo-Christian values. Islam has absolutely no place in their scheme of things. Forgot what they did in Spain ?

They might have mellowed down a bit in recent years with all the "multiculturalism" and all..but when they realize that their way of life is under threat, no mercy will be shown.

Indeed, western conditions are perfect for Islam to grow - but Westerners unfortunately dont asssociate any of the qualities you listed with Islam and you know it. So when they perceive that Islam is becoming a threat to their way of life their retaliation would be the same as what they have done throughout history - which is pretty brutal.

Regarding me being a Christian - LMAO.
 
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Whatever man - Europeans may be materialistically developed but at heart they remain the same. Very tribal and very guarding and possessive of what they call "their way of life", one that bases itself from the Greco-Roman civilizations and guided by Judeo-Christian values. Islam has absolutely no place in their scheme of things. Forgot what they did in Spain ?

They might have mellowed down a bit in recent years with all the "multiculturalism" and all..but when they realize that their way of life is under threat, no mercy will be shown.

Indeed, western conditions are perfect for Islam to grow - but Westerners unfortunately dont asssociate any of the qualities you listed with Islam and you know it. So when they perceive that Islam is becoming a threat to their way of life their retaliation would be the same as what they have done throughout history - which is pretty brutal.

Regarding me being a Christian - LMAO.

You can keep your fancy stories to yourself , dude...

How can Islam become a threat to their "way of life" ...Secondly , Western "way of life" is ever-evolving...And thanks for bringing in Spain though..at that time , Christianity played the central role in the society and therefore , West was in dark-ages...Today , thankfully , no one even gives a tiny sh!t about Christianity no more...And by the way genius , About 30 million Muslims are indigenous Europeans...so how come your theory of "way of life under threat" works here? With every passing month , Islam is becoming more and more integrated in the West .... First Muslims were immigrants but now their European born , European raised kids are growing up...within few decades , Islam will completely become the part of West ,..... It will no longer be seen as the "outside" faith ....

Nothings gonna happen ....chill
 
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Europeans can be pretty ruthless when they even feel their idealogy is under threat. Muslims [in Europe] watch out.

O yes they can be ruthless - on the other hand they can be incredibly understanding to law abiding citizens - as i have experienced all my life. Obey the laws of the land and respect them and in return you will be respected.
 
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This theory have been debunked couple of times... Your "ruthless" Europeans don't even have any ideology to counter Islam...Islam is just a simple pure religion...why would Europeans have any problem with that? (Unless offcourse you are one of those lunatic brainless Christian who thinks "Muslims want to take over" blah blah) .... Islam isn't like communism , which was against Western reason and democracy... Western conditions are perfect for Islam---religious freedom , personal liberty , freedom of choice , rationalism , and social security... all these things provide perfect space for Islam to grow itself...Islam has a great future in the West, Inshallah ...

Rationality + Faith = European Islam ...

Oh and if and when Islam becomes religion followed by majority then will these 'perfect conditions' be there for non-muslims???

how long will it take fundamentalists muslims to wipe out the non-muslims?? See Nigeria, Kashmir..etc..
 
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You can keep your fancy stories to yourself , dude...

How can Islam become a threat to their "way of life" ...Secondly , Western "way of life" is ever-evolving...And thanks for bringing in Spain though..at that time , Christianity played the central role in the society and therefore , West was in dark-ages...Today , thankfully , no one even gives a tiny sh!t about Christianity no more...And by the way genius , About 30 million Muslims are indigenous Europeans...so how come your theory of "way of life under threat" works here? With every passing month , Islam is becoming more and more integrated in the West .... First Muslims were immigrants but now their European born , European raised kids are growing up...within few decades , Islam will completely become the part of West ,..... It will no longer be seen as the "outside" faith ....

Nothings gonna happen ....chill

Fine if you are confident about that, nothing for me. Though I'll just give a headsup. If all the mushrooming right wing parties, nationalist organizations, acknowledgement that mulitculturalism whose only plank is anti-Islam has failed has failed to convince you, then fine.

Anyway Christianity as a religion might not play a central role in European politics - but their idea of xtianity has become more of a "way of life" than a faith and irrespective of how much time passes, Islam will always be viewed as outside in Europe - especially the politically and militarily dominant Western part.

O yes they can be ruthless - on the other hand they can be incredibly understanding to law abiding citizens - as i have experienced all my life. Obey the laws of the land and respect them and in return you will be respected.

Agreed.

But I would add one more to the "obey the ..." list. That is their way of life. Not just their political laws.

If they feel their "way of life" is under threat, they can be the most xenophobic persons on the planet and history bears witness to that.
 
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You can keep your fancy stories to yourself , dude...

How can Islam become a threat to their "way of life" ...Secondly , Western "way of life" is ever-evolving...And thanks for bringing in Spain though..at that time , Christianity played the central role in the society and therefore , West was in dark-ages...Today , thankfully , no one even gives a tiny sh!t about Christianity no more...And by the way genius , About 30 million Muslims are indigenous Europeans...so how come your theory of "way of life under threat" works here? With every passing month , Islam is becoming more and more integrated in the West .... First Muslims were immigrants but now their European born , European raised kids are growing up...within few decades , Islam will completely become the part of West ,..... It will no longer be seen as the "outside" faith ....

Nothings gonna happen ....chill
only then the problems will start.. lok at the sorry state of britain now..
 
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