The racial reckoning comes

[nahtanbob]

I can't say I agree. The reasons are outlined below.

For now let's agree to disagree - instead of wasting time.

More to the point of this thread, racial reckoning is important because we need this to fight racism in California.

Racism is the antithesis to economic progress and technical innovation. The Tech industry is a great racial equalizer.

There is a reason why one bedroom apts. in Silicon Valley are going for $4,500 a month. Because people (the best and the brightest, of ANY color) can afford them with their salaries. And talent gets recognized in Silicon Valley irrespective of skin color.

You get rewarded in Silicon Valley for what you can bring to the table as far as innovation - it is all results. No one will care about your skin color.

Talent, education and intellect are in really short supply in this country and getting even shorter-to-get by the day. Turns out newly minted hyphenated American minorities (South East Asians, South Asians, South Americans, to a lesser degree first generation Eastern Europeans as well as Middle Easterners) are disproportionately the majority group who are interested in STEM education and populating Silicon Valley in the industries that are and will carry this country forward in the race of technology.

I see it as a straight up middle finger to the status quo color-bar hierarchy and a fore-bearer of the change-of-thinking we need for the future in this country.

If you don't believe me, look at the largest tech companies in Silicon Valley and who is in the boards of trustees and the leaders (mostly new immigrants and their kids). These hardworking folks are the people who put California (as well as the US) in the worldwide innovation and technology map and are not afraid to work fifteen hour days.

Hang out at San Jose Airport sometime and see who is flying in and out to get business for this country overseas and are at the forefront of the technology onslaught. You will get your answer.

This ain't happening in Kansas City or even Chicago. It is happening in Silicon Valley - because the talent, the drive, the innovation all come together in these cities around San Jose. It is the hub of innovation in the US.

The technology incubator that became successful in the late eighties with HP, Apple and other pioneering companies keeps on hatching new ones. You see it as a party, I call it a race to be the best-of-the-best in the new technology arena.

Every business in the US (no matter what vertical, what line of business they are in) is getting into artificial intelligence, virtualization and cyber space. Why? Because transformation is the only way to reduce costs and improve competitiveness, and is essential to survive in the face of lower cost competition from the likes of China.

Even existing automotive companies like Honda and Toyota are designing cars in Silicon Valley that will self-drive and communicate with each other - this is just one example. Silicon Valley is hatching new propulsion technologies for automobiles (Tesla is just the start). Look at this below.

There are those who have predicted doomsday scenarios for Silicon Valley for years. Some companies are moving to cheaper locations (Silicon Beach, Silicon Gulch) but the primary hub and seed funding location will always be Silicon Valley. The people who drive Silicon Valley (the hyper-educated Gen-X'ers and the Millenials) aren't moving anywhere else by far.

https://www.fastcompany.com/3026220/tap-into-the-7-secrets-of-silicon-valleys-innovation-culture

By the way, I quote a part of your Sacramento Bee report below, it is as stark as day. Uneducated people cannot make it in Sacramento, or anywhere else in California. Housing is too expensive.

We don't really need high-school-educated folks (disproportionately racist) who think a plumbing or electrician career will make them rich using some type of 'privilege'. Let these folks move to places where they can find cheap housing, like Texas for example.
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"But California is drawing more people than it is losing from one distinct demographic group – those with an advanced college degree. About 9,000 more adults 25 and older with graduate degrees came to California from other states than left for them last year, census estimates show.

In addition, about as many adults 25 and older with a bachelor’s degree but no master’s degree came to California as left for other states last year.

On the other hand, adults without a college degree left California in droves. Educational attainment is closely correlated with income – those with college degrees tend to earn a lot more than those without."

I rest my case...

I have been to Silicon Valley. I am quite aware of the advantages and drawbacks.

There are very few Hispanics and African Americans in your color blind technology industry. I am not saying the technology industry is racist.

Large proportion of the high school dropouts leaving the state are Hispanics and Blacks

If you think technology jobs in Silicon Valley cannot go to other locales within USA or India or China you are in for a rude shock. Hardware jobs have left the Valley.

 

[Bilal9]

There are very few Hispanics and African Americans in your color blind technology industry. I am not saying the technology industry is racist.

I agree with this. But the Hispanics and Blacks that do populate it are from the same type of background the SE Asians and S Asians are from, mostly educated families, who will care about and ensure their kids will be educated and get a better shake at opportunities in Silicon Valley. These are educated South Americans (sometimes student transplants) as opposed to economic migrants. This is natural and expected. Some groups will get a fairer shake than others. This is a cultural phenomenon - S and SE Asians emphasize educational success far more than other groups and are thus represented in greater numbers in Silicon Valley.

If you think technology jobs in Silicon Valley cannot go to other locales within USA or India or China you are in for a rude shock. Hardware jobs have left the Valley.

The technology jobs that are going to other locales within USA or India or China from Silicon Valley are primarily low-paid, cost-sensitive assignments which will not be harmed by being away from the development ecosystem in Silicon Valley. Hardware production (such as SMT pick and place as well as sample development are relatively lower cost assignments.

These jobs fall into the category of QA, Trend monitoring, Helpdesk, Support and Back office jobs that are not dependent on Ph.D or Master's degree input and analysis. Austin (TX) is getting some spillover silicon valley research jobs, but Austin is getting saturated and expensive fast. Austin had been a secondary silicon valley since the eighties.

Philippines gets the eBay/Amazon dumb scripted support jobs (no technical expertise needed).

India gets the help-desk slash technical software support jobs (semi-technical) and that has been the trend for two decades or more. Indian entrepreneurs don't seem to be interested in upping the game/ante any further than that because India has a dearth of talent too (as hard as it is to believe). They have realized their sweet spot and being how complacent some folks in India are, I don't have high hopes that they will go for any higher end technical development jobs in India than is at present. It is what it is.

There have been some basic research going on in Bangalore for a decade - GE opened a center there for chemical and fundamental materials research. The place employs Indian Ph.D's for a pittance. Labor (talent) cost again, is the major draw.

But you can't do sensitive, confidential or competitive research in India, the IP could be stolen or leaked, and the situation is even more grave in China, where the state encourages and sponsors such IP theft with nary a repercussion. So we are left with the US to do these sensitive development jobs, and salaries aren't exactly way lower than Silicon Valley - they are somewhat less, demand being what it is.

If talented developers get jobs in say Palo Alto or Santa Cruz, they won't be keen about staying in KC or St. Louis (the humidity capitals of the USA) and will move out West for sure.

Weather, location, quality of life in the weekends, these are major factors that influence the choice-of-domicile for these highly educated, high-demand individuals, a few dollars cheaper housing won't make these folks leave for the corn-belt Mid-West (unless there are family reasons).

Now someone like you may hate Silicon Valley, but I can confidently say that you Sir, are rather in the minority.

I'd rather go back to Malaysia or Bangladesh, than relocate to, say, St. Louis or Panama City, Florida. Just not worth it for me.

Silicon Valley is what it is for more than talent even, it is the draw of California as a place and a way-of-life that the backwoods places cannot match. It is an altogether different vibe.

 

[AViet]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/opinion/america-racism.html

When did British take over China? Ive never heard about that, but know that several thousand Mongols took Europe.



I think you are late by 500 to 100 years. I don’t think you realize that things now are nowhere near where they were back before the year 1900. 1000 British soldiers take over China. A few hundred Spanish soldiers take over Central and South America. Africa?

I don’t think you have much to worry about.

 

[zectech]

Lincoln’s second inaugural: “And the war came.” Nobody wanted it, but it came.

Bogus. Lincoln wanted the war, but did not want the blame so kept the troops at ft Sumter. Baiting the Southerners to attack, because federals were holding South Carolina land.

Every large war engaged by the Amerikan, was either false flag or baiting the Japanese to attack because of an oil embargo. Read the McCollum memo.

There was military ammo on the Lusitania. That was a military target with human shields.

Remember the Maine was more of the same.