The Quad Is Poised to Become Openly Anti-China Soon

[Indos]

LoL

Australia and Indonesia fought each other for East Timor.

Nope, Indonesia gave up East Timor (Indonesia invaded East Timor in 1975) is more due to Westerns collective pressure (US+British and other), similar like how Sudan let go South Sudan due to Western pressure (Christian sentiment). East Timor is a Christian majority region.

It was during 1995-2000 when US become a sole superpower and USSR has collapsed.

 

[Nilgiri]

Nope, Indonesia gave up East Timor (Indonesia invaded East Timor in 1975) is more due to Westerns collective pressure (US+British and other), similar like how Sudan let go South Sudan due to Western pressure (Christian sentiment). East Timor is a Christian majority region.

It was during 1995-2000 when US become a sole superpower and USSR has collapsed.

Its a severely mentally deficient and uneducated troll.

It will likely now try to drag you in with more bait....its not worth taking it.

The agenda is to promote the CCP BS at any cost to logic and sense.

 

[Cherub786]

Monumental... just how much of China's GDP did this "monumental" Indian decision cost it? And the recent scuffle along the LAC has only shown how impotent India is - all it can do is screech on social media and clownish television channels while China annexes yet more territory. Where are the global reactions?

Believe me this is going to cost China big time. India, being the second most populous country on Earth, is a huge market, and China just shot itself in the foot by antagonizing this huge market for no apparent good reason. This is why I said China doesn't make decisions rationally and by thinking about even the short term consequences.

As for the global reaction, social media (which you so casually dismiss) is the global reaction in this day and age. I highly recommend you subscribe to a YouTube channel named China Uncensored. In the social media war, China is losing big time, in part because China is severely handicapped by the language barrier. In the English dimension of social media, China is getting pounded big time. China has been unable to give the world an alternative to all the major social media platforms (Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc.). The only thing it came up with was this silly TikTok and now that has not only been ended in India, there is serious debate going on in Pakistan about banning it too, though for religious and moral reasons.

So China is definitely losing the media war. Covid-19 was definitely the straw that broke the camel's back. The entire world right now absolutely hates and despises China.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Believe me this is going to cost China big time. India, being the second most populous country on Earth, is a huge market,

India might be populous, but it's desperately poor. It's more malnourished than North Korea
https://www.livemint.com/Politics/J...blem-is-worse-than-North-Koreas-global-h.html
No matter how many zeros I add together, the result is still zero.

China just shot itself in the foot by antagonizing this huge market for no apparent good reason

China shot nowhere near its foot and it "antagonized" India for a very good reason: to establish to it and everyone else that China is the boss of Asia. Given the reaction from Nepal, Bangladesh, Iran, Afghanistan, and even Bhutan, I think the whole thing has been quite a success.

As for the global reaction, social media (which you so casually dismiss) is the global reaction in this day and age.

Among the simple-minded, gullible, and easily distracted. The leaders of the world use other measures to make their decisions, measures social media has little to do with.

I highly recommend you subscribe to a YouTube channel named China Uncensored.

No thanks, I have no desire to watch Falun Gong trash. What a weirdo cult.

In the social media war, China is losing big time

Perhaps, but in the money and power war, China is winning bigly. We'll leave the social media war to the likes of India, it's more than welcome to "win" that.

So China is definitely losing the media war.

You have very strange criteria of winning and losing. China is "losing" if it doesn't have total command of its enemy's media space?

 

[Feng Leng]

Four countries versus 1000+ nuclear warheads

Let's see who wins

 

[mazeto]

India should take whatever help it can from whoever will help( for their own selfish reasons),
But should not be a part of overtly military alliances with a transparent agenda of boxing them in, inland. Combine that with the fact they have been basically shut out of our market.
That will leave them no option but to break the quad at its weakest point by going on a war with us with unpredictable consequences.
The US has the back of Japan and Australia.

 

[Cherub786]

Given the reaction from Nepal, Bangladesh, Iran, Afghanistan, and even Bhutan, I think the whole thing has been quite a success.

The most inconsequential countries on the planet.

As for Falun Gong, I had no idea they are the ones behind the China Uncensored channel. How can I confirm that? I confess I'm not very familiar with that group or why they're considered a cult. The man I see hosting the videos is a Caucasian.
BTW, are you Chinese?

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

The most inconsequential countries on the planet.

Like India and Australia are titans astride the Earth. The point isn't their consequentiality, it's that they're India's neighbours. Surely if China was an evil bully they would have rallied around India, right? If India was strong, surely they would have joined it to get a piece of the action when India smashed China. Things turned out a little differently.

A nice rule of thumb about international crises is that they clarify relations of power. Everybody with eyes to see saw how isolated and weak India is. No support from its neighbours, no support from its Quad "allies".

As for the Falun Gong and China Uncensored
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Tang_Dynasty_Television
I find it offensive that such trash takes the name of the T'ang.

 

[Max]

no India? should include India in there too, with Pakistan as its subordinate. Every alliance has a pecking order.

Don't take troll serious, Pakistan will supports China instead of crusader zionist Hindutva terrorist gang.

 

[Cherub786]

No support from its neighbours, no support from its Quad "allies".

Come on dude, we're talking about Nepal and Bhutan. The latter is actually a strong India ally, it has no diplomatic relations with China at all.

And for all intents and purposes, India joined Quad after the LAC skirmish.

 

[nahtanbob]

Lol maybe this would work if every country in the Quad did not have substantial economic ties and trade dependency on China ... only the US is strong enough to take a proactive anti-China position. All the other countries will more or less still be dependent. That is just fact.

What dependence does India have on China ? All the Chinese made goods can be made in India with American & Japanese technology

 

[nahtanbob]

India might be populous, but it's desperately poor. It's more malnourished than North Korea

It is amazing China sells $70 billion in products to desperately poor India

 

[Figaro]

Four countries versus 1000+ nuclear warheads

Let's see who wins

One of the countries you mentioned has 4000 nuclear warheads.

What dependence does India have on China ? All the Chinese made goods can be made in India with American & Japanese technology

India's pharma industry is completely dependent on Chinese APIs. And no, not all Chinese goods can be made in India. India's lack of infrastructure and investment makes this impossible. Most of Indian goods are manufactured with Chinese parts. You are forgetting the infrastructure part of the equation. How can you manufacture stuff when you don't have the facilities?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...e-feasible-indian-exporters-say-idUSKBN23W1I8

 

[Figaro]

Come on dude, we're talking about Nepal and Bhutan. The latter is actually a strong India ally, it has no diplomatic relations with China at all.

And for all intents and purposes, India joined Quad after the LAC skirmish.

No it didn't. India was one of the original founders of the Quad in 2007. As for Bhutan, it is a de-facto Indian protectorate. India does not even allow it to have foreign relations with any of the 5 UN permanent members.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrilateral_Security_Dialogue#:~:text=The Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (QSD,military drills between member countries.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

And for all intents and purposes, India joined Quad after the LAC skirmish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrilateral_Security_Dialogue
Could have fooled me

The forum was initiated as a dialogue in 2007 by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan, with the support of Vice President Dick Cheney of the US, Prime Minister John Howard of Australia and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of India.

If you want to go with "well, India didn't really join then", I can go with India hasn't really joined until its Quad partners come rescue it militarily from the humiliation China is delivering to it.