The Only Way to World Peace is an Islamic Union

[airuah]

Education especially science.Like Iran for instance?

Right now education is not a problem....once you have a union you end up with boko haram, taliban,ISIS types in huge numbers who will bring about their version of religion. The silent majority will stay silent and end up following the whims of the extremists

 

[Hiptullha]

It is a question of culture too, both Bosnia and Albania have some kind of European culture, while Turkey has mostly an oriental type of culture.

The two countries were under Ottoman rule for quite some time and it's culture had a great effect on Bosnia and Albania. I think it's a more geographical thing. One thing which I believes a reason why many countries are reluctant to accept Turkey is because it will give Turkish immigrants free movement across EU.

 

[The SC]

You can think those things, but not kill people over it. You can think whatever you want. And so can your neighbor. That's the important part - not what you think, but your commitment to not kill your neighbor over what he thinks.


I don't think anyone is playing that game. Muslims are doing it to themselves, by themselves. No outside assistance required. Everyone else is trying to get them to quit (so we can go back to making money and not getting killed by your wackos).

Well, if we think about the Iraqi invasion for no sustainable reasons, and the aftermath of it, we as rational and intelligent people conclude that someone is playing that game.

 

[Hiptullha]

Right now education is not a problem....once you have a union you end up with boko haram, taliban,ISIS types in huge numbers who will bring about their version of religion. The silent majority will stay silent and end up following the whims of the extremists

Tired and regurgitated spam.
Read the thread before you open your trap.

 

[shuntmaster]

They can't 'combine'

If Islamist can day dream of union of Muslim country's from Morocco to Malaysia, why can't we kafirs dream of union of kafir countries, eh?? Infact, an informal alliance of India-China-Russia is already taking place as part of the SCO and BRICS organisations.

 

[T-123456]

You can think those things, but not kill people over it. You can think whatever you want. And so can your neighbor. That's the important part - not what you think, but your commitment to not kill your neighbor over what he thinks.


I don't think anyone is playing that game. Muslims are doing it to themselves, by themselves. No outside assistance required. Everyone else is trying to get them to quit (so we can go back to making money and not getting killed by your wackos).

First,you should know who you are talking to,not a kid.
Divide and conquer is a specialty of your country,im not going to give you any examples because you can google it and im sure that if you deny this fact your knowledge of world politics is limited.
Second;''your wackos''?who are my/our wackos?
Look at my country of origin,ever heard of Turks doing such things?
Talking about wackos,look at Ferguson!

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Try getting electing in the Republican states without being affiliated to a Church.

The fact that they are Christian is incidental.

That's what I was going to say.

I'm just suggesting that being a politician in America has a lot to do with being a Christian, which is completely okay.

More like a coincidence than anything, Christianity is the majority so chances are we are more likely to end up with a president that is Christian than anything else.

 

[shuntmaster]

Which means nothing as there are little chances of war taking place. Trying to harass or antagonize any such union would be very foolish since it would make up an extremely powerful ally.

more likely an enemy/rival power..

 

[Kompromat]

If Islamist can day dream of union of Muslim country's from Morocco to Malaysia, why can't we kafirs dream of union of kafir countries, eh?? Infact, an informal alliance of India-China-Russia is already taking place as part of the SCO and BRICS organisations.

We have been unified in the past, at least in parts. Is there such an alliance to show from your side of the opinion?

 

[shuntmaster]

India, China and Russia will never combine. BRICS is a temporary anti West bloc. There is nothing in common, ethnicity or culture. ASEAN+3 will side with any united Muslim bloc for energy reasons and Russia will pull towards EU eventually.

India-China-Russia alliance has better chance of happening than the Islamic union..

We have been unified in the past, at least in parts. Is there such an alliance to show from your side of the opinion?

When..?? The Shia-Sunni divide happened right after the birth of Islam...The Muslim world has been divided ever since..
Also, just because something didn't happen in the past, doesn't mean it cannot happen in future. Ex. during WW1 and WW2 countries which were rivals earlier, became allies in face of common threat..

 

[The SC]

The two countries were under Ottoman rule for quite some time and it's culture had a great effect on Bosnia and Albania. I think it's a more geographical thing. One thing which I believes a reason why many countries are reluctant to accept Turkey is because it will give Turkish immigrants free movement across EU.

That is true, but still they have this Slavic look of blondish north Europeans, of course it is not a very valid reason, but it concerns perceptions and human nature. The Turks are already well established in most European countries, with 5 million or more in Germany alone, The most recent news is that Germany is asking all the other Europeans to leave after 6 months if they have no work. Meaning that immigration laws a getting more severe for everyone there. And by the way most of the Turks in Europe either have their own businesses or a job. Now, since Turkey is doing well and much better than half of the EU countries, the fear of Turkish immigration does not hold seriously..

 

[shuntmaster]

More like a coincidence than anything, Christianity is the majority so chances are we are more likely to end up with a president that is Christian than anything else.

Isn't Obama a born Muslim?

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

I don't think anyone is playing that game. Muslims are doing it to themselves, by themselves. No outside assistance required. Everyone else is trying to get them to quit (so we can go back to making money and not getting killed by your wackos).

Really?

 

[Kompromat]

When..?? The Shia-Sunni divide happened right after the birth of Islam...The Muslim world has been divided ever since..
Also, just because something didn't happen in the past, doesn't mean it cannot happen in future. during WW1 and WW2 countries which were rivals earlier, became allies in face of common threat..

There is no such divide, not bigger than Catholics and Protestants.

What do Indian Hindus, Chinese atheists and Russian orthodox share in common?

 

[shuntmaster]

There is no such divide, not bigger than Catholics and Protestants.

What do Indian Hindus, Chinese atheists and Russian orthodox share in common?

Not everyone looks at everything from religious lens. There are much more important things like shared values and national interests.
Ex. NATO is not a Christian alliance, otherwise Turkey would not be a member.

There is no such divide, not bigger than Catholics and Protestants.

Still European Union has both Catholic and Protestant countries as equal members. Even Greek Othodox country in it..