The Kanal Istanbul project should be stopped

[Adıvar]

"With Kanal İstanbul, you can show to the ships an alternative and you can close the Bosphorus strait with some excuses as we wish"

The number of ships passing the Bosphourus is getting less each year.

2006 54 000
2010 50 000
2018 43 000

 

[Killuminati]

What does this project have to do with the United States? The idea dates back to the Ottoman Empire, Sultan Suleyman. There wasn't even a united states back then. Even Bulent Ecevit was in favor of the project, but was stopped by several powers.

Those who oppose the project cannot even come up with decent arguments. The only thing they do (singing the same song for years) is to link everything to the agenda of US.

CHP is a total fail

 

[UkroTurk]

How could Turkey fork up 10 billion USD if any of commercial ship won't pass through the new channel?
You won't force them to use new channel. Just today Ibrahim Kalın stated. Turkey doesn't any right to stop or pause international sea transportation.
So which ships would pay and pass? Or the government doesn't expect money from passing ships? They will just spent the money from Turkish budget and that's all. They will be happy with the new real estate market and construction works ..
Poor Turkish tax payers again will pay for the unpassing ships.

Moreover 4 new bridges are coming for Istanbul residents who soon will have to pay for travel to Silivri summer houses.

Government will bring Kanal bill to İstanbulers and tax payers.
https://www.ahaber.com.tr/video/gun...las-kanal-istanbul-ve-montro-aciklamasi-video

What kind of moron would pay to the new channel if there were a free way. Waiting for passing is maximum 3 days if there is a bad weather conditions. You can not force any ships or dictate waiting.
İt is just for lands around istanbul.

İ can't find the link , watch this program if you can understand Turkish language at 22:00 24.11.19 Habertürk.

"Stream or flow of channel will be 10 miles per hour and wide is just 200 meters. The speed is too high and wide channel dangerous when you drive from black sea to Marmara.

Also another scandal is ÇED report. The ecological state report of project contains economic statements and analysis . pathetic.

Although some scientist who contributed the report put their dissenting opinion, the government shows every scientist is okay with
the project.

Yap işlet devret ile 10 milyar dolara devlet garantisiyle katarlıyla beraber çökecekler, geçecek enayi bulamayınca vatandaşa ödetecekler. Arsaları Katarlı almaya başlamış zaten.

10 milyar dolara 1 milyon adet 30metrekarelik sosyal konut yapılıp fakirlere ve yetimhanelerden çıkanlara bedava verilirdi.

O şekilde de İstanbul'un bir kısmı taşınabilirdi ve inşaat sektörüde canlandıralabilirdi ama olmaz o zaman padişahın namı yürümez ve fakir fukaraya gider paralar.

Senin kanala kadar ne sorunların para bekliyor onları çöz. Teknik üniversite aç, tıp fakültesi yap. Paralı hizmet hizmet değil. Ulan en azından tank fabrikası yap veya nükleer santral yap veya mevcut köprülere yeni bir tane daha ekle ve bedava yap. 10 tane daha milli fırkateyn yap milli denizaltı yap .

Yapmalıymışız yoksa Karadeniz patlarmış bunu diyen de üniversite de hoca.


Hem boğazda petrol ve gaz trafiği için çok tehlikeli de, yeni kanala taşınması gerek de, hem de yeni kanalın yanına 500bin nüfusu yerleştir.
Onların ki can değil mi?
200 metre genişliğinde ve 10 mil hızında akan bir kanalda 200bin ton gaz yüklü bir tankeri düşünemiyorum.
Zaten oradan da onu geçmeyi kimse zorlayamazda neyse( boru hatları sayesinde gaz petrol geçişinin aşırı derecede düştüğünü de söylesek yeridir) neresinden bakarsanız ahmakça.

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

What does this project have to do with the United States? The idea dates back to the Ottoman Empire, Sultan Suleyman. There wasn't even a united states back then. Even Bulent Ecevit was in favor of the project, but was stopped by several powers.

Those who oppose the project cannot even come up with decent arguments. The only thing they do (singing the same song for years) is to link everything to the agenda of US.

CHP is a total fail

I don't care if the project dates back to the Ottoman empire. You know what else dates back to the Ottoman empire? The legalisation of homosexual sex. Does that make it right? F*ck No.

I gave multiple reasons why this project is dumb. But you just don't listen.

Oh well I don't live in Istanbul. I'm not the one who has to deal with one of the stupidest and most costly, unnecessary projects in Turkish history.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1209535733687627776

https://twitter.com/x/status/1209376465722195973

 

[UkroTurk]

Why don't you see that after discussions of Montreux , Russia started shelling and pressing on Idlib. Because someone made noises for US interests on the Blacksea region.

Currently Turkey has stopped provocating RF by Montreux as new refuge stream arrived from Syria. İt had better somebody shut up.

 

[Saithan]

Tl;dr I don’t know if the canal is a good idea, but what I do know is if you make something like a canal being able to control it is essential even during times of war. The panama canal works with gate system, so preventing enemies from using it would be relatively easy. RTE is pretty dumb, his braincells have descended into suicide mode if you ask me. Look at the additional problems he has caused in Libya by fvcking opening his mouth. If you want to kill your enemies do that while they’re sleeping. But oh no we have to announce everything first. RTE may be quick to action compared to european countries, but the arabs move with the speed of light because they don’t have democracy. In the end all I am seeing is Turkey getting into more and more troubles, just like having to fight several wars on several fronts. We all know how that usually plays out.

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

How about we put that 70 billion into our defense industry? Or towards education? Or what about making our cities more earthquake resistant?

But no, instead we are wasting it on a pointless project which just pleases America by allowing them full access to the black sea.

Say what you wanna say about Imamoglu, but the man is speaking rationally. It's sad how all these Turks living in luxury outside of Turkey are supporting this. Yet they don't realise that more than half of the nation is struggling to f*cking survive.

There have been countless traitorous acts carried out by the government. Thousands have killed themselves because they lost everything. Almost all of these people were previous AKP voters.

Seriously you people who are supporting this project need to shut the f*ck up and grow a brain. I'm disgusted by how many idiots on this forum support Kanal Istanbul. I would say yeah go ahead and suffer but the truth is that you don't live there and you're probably an Ermeni or something. F*cking dumbass Islamist idiots.

All your IP addresses and names will be noted down. Enjoy freedom while you can.

 

[Saithan]

Another thing to remember construction projects are good for creating jobs in the short run.

 

[xenon54 out]

Those who oppose the project cannot even come up with decent arguments.

Saying that our dying economy doesnt have the capability to sustain another useless prestige project of a megalomaniac is not a real argument?

Sry bro seems like your eyes have a problem, get it checked asap.

 

[Glass]

All of this can be done without a canal thats not necessary and will cost hundreds of billions which dont exist.

I dont know tbh, im neutral but im honest, this project right now seems to be rushed And it would be nice to know why erdogan is rushing this project, what are the motives behind it. The problem with it being rushed is that some people like me who are very neutral in general cant make up their mind if its now good or bad and listening to kemalists isnt always going to get the right answer here because a lot of kemalists will be eager to critize anything just because erdogan announced it. Lets wait for a couple of weeks to get more infos to get the bigger picture.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

As far as I know, American banks financing this project. This is enough proof for me to be against for it.
This is the reason why tayyip insists on this project. He knows that his father US gonna pay for it. He will pour that money in this project and rescue his buddies who are owners of bankrupted construction companies. That money will let our economy breath for a while. Then he will be able to abuse it to gain more votes.
Our economy is collapsed already and have no a penny to spend on it we all know it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1209743256625569797

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

I dont know tbh, im neutral but im honest, this project right now seems to be rushed And it would be nice to know why erdogan is rushing this project, what are the motives behind it. The problem with it being rushed is that some people like me who are very neutral in general cant make up their mind if its now good or bad and listening to kemalists isnt always going to get the right answer here because a lot of kemalists will be eager to critize anything just because erdogan announced it. Lets wait for a couple of weeks to get more infos to get the bigger picture.

As a self proclaimed Kemalist, I supported this project a while back.. but now that I've looked into it my mind has changed. The project is just another 'rant' scheme.

A then reputable YouTube channel had convinced me but it turns out that everything that had been said was complete bullsh!t.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

I said that our economy is collapsed already and this is the proof.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1209568961160892417

 

[UkroTurk]

Presidential spokesman Kalın, "Channel Istanbul is not a municipal project, the state project. We do not open to debate Montreux. Canal Istanbul is a project to be made under this agreement.İt is not a project to eliminate Montreux agreement ," he said. !!!!!!!!!

For whom to concern..... Nokta . .. stop spreading your bullshit such as" Erdogan will ebolish Montreux , Lozan. Mighty president won't allow to pass anyship if he doesn't want!."