The Great Game Changer: Belt and Road Intiative (BRI; OBOR)

[Hamartia Antidote]

It all means the same thing, people are referring to the "US-led West".

But if it makes you feel better, I will specifically say "American" from now on, whenever possible.

It makes you sound like the "Muslims" vs the "Christians" thing that seems to be the usual fallback argument in every Middle East conversation here. If something goes bad the generic "it must be the Christians" is the answer. Just Weasel word - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[northeast]

People like you would prefer that we remain vulnerable to American naval blockades of our oil/gas sea routes.

But how could Russia do in this ?You mean if we don't pour our money to help russia this time,they would stop selling oil when next time US blockades of our oil sea route?holy crap,That's a blackmail.If that's true ，then maybe we shouldn't import oil from the beginning.

But it's just your delusion.In reality It's all about profit between China and Rusdia.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

It makes you sound like the "Muslims" vs the "Christians" thing that seems to be the usual fallback argument in every Middle East conversation here. If something goes bad the generic "it must be the Christians" is the answer. Just Weasel word - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am an Atheist, I don't care about religious topics.

But like I said, if you want people to stop pointing at the West, and be more specific towards America, no doubt your wish will come true.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I am an Atheist, I don't care about religious topics.

But like I said, if you want people to stop pointing at the West, and be more specific towards America, no doubt your wish will come true.

I'm an atheist too. So what? It only makes conversations here harder when I have to tell people to stop pointing at religious stuff as an answer.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

But how could Russia do in this ?You mean if we don't pour our money to help russia this time,they would stop selling oil when next time US blockades of our oil sea route?holy crap,That's a blackmail.If that's true ，then maybe we shouldn't import oil from the beginning.

But it's just your delusion.In reality It's all about profit between China and Rusdia.

Go and petition the National government in Beijing to stop their cooperation with Russia then.

In fact, I'd love to see you come to Beijing and spew your usual anti-CPC propaganda.

Maybe you can run to the American embassy to save yourself.

 

[northeast]

Go and petition the National government in Beijing to stop their cooperation with Russia then.

In fact, I'd love to see you come to Beijing and spew your usual anti-CPC propaganda.

Maybe you can run to the American embassy to save yourself.

I'm not anti CPC，you fool.And I'm not against helping Russia if we can get profit from it.I'm just against that someone saying helping Russia is helping ourselves and great China-Russia friendship blah blah.Either they are being hypocritical or just really plain fools.

 

[sahaliyan]

I'm not anti CPC，you fool.And I'm not against helping Russia if we can get profit from it.I'm just against that someone saying helping Russia is helping ourselves and great China-Russia friendship blah blah.Either they are being sacrificed

Well said,Russians are not our friends,and never will be one

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I'm not anti CPC，you fool.And I'm not against helping Russia if we can get profit from it.I'm just against that someone saying helping Russia is helping ourselves and great China-Russia friendship blah blah.Either they are being hypocritical or just really plain fools.

That's the impression I get from reading your posts.

Everything the CPC does, it's always you here crying about it.

Like I said, go petition the National government in Beijing, then go and run away and hide in the American embassy to save yourself.

 

[East Lake]

Well said,Russians are not our friends,and never will be one

I think it will be better if everyone was friends with each other. The Russians are good people and did at one point help China to build up.

 

[TaiShang]

I'm not anti CPC，you fool.And I'm not against helping Russia if we can get profit from it.I'm just against that someone saying helping Russia is helping ourselves and great China-Russia friendship blah blah.Either they are being hypocritical or just really plain fools.

No body talks about a brotherhood that is rosy and all smooth here. I did not even use the word "help" but "assist" because I do not believe in one nation "helping" the other. So, before acting as the pragmatist of the century, get your terminology straight.

There is an inherent interest in every relationship, not just between nations. Hence, "assisting Russia is in a way assisting China itself" suggests a die-hard pragmatist approach, unlike your sentimental outburst. The reasons have been repeated over and over, from Yuan's internationalization (given that Russia is a major natural resources exporter and you would not anticipate Saudi Arabia to drop the US dollar) to cooperation at the UNSC.

Stop name-calling for a bit, reduce the angry rhetoric, and think in clear mind. We are basically arguing for the same thing, only the approaches might be slightly different.

 

[northeast]

That's the impression I get from reading your posts.

Everything the CPC does, it's always you here crying about it.

Like I said, go petition the National government in Beijing, then go and run away and hide in the American embassy to save yourself.

No idea what are you talking about，I'm not even against what CPC have done to help Russia.I'm just against some naive fools.

 

[sahaliyan]

I think it will be better if everyone was friends with each other. The Russians are good people and did at one point help China to build up.

Most ordinary people are good people,Chinese,Japanese,Koreans,Americans,Russians,Africans etc,but every country has own national interests and China and Russia has different interests

 

[TaiShang]

Most ordinary people are good people,Chinese,Japanese,Koreans,Americans,Russians,Africans etc,but every country has own national interests and China and Russia has different interests

My next door dorm-mate has a different interests than mine, as well. You are pointing to such a universal truth that almost all of us nearly missed.

 

[sahaliyan]

My next door dorm-mate has a different interests than mine, as well. You are pointing to such a universal truth that almost all of us nearly missed.

Russians have better relation with Vietnam and India than China,no?Russians don't trust China,if China suffers in the future,they will not give a damn,deal with it,no one know better of Russians than people of northeast China

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

No idea what are you talking about，I'm not even against what CPC have done to help Russia.I'm just against some naive fools.

I've been reading your posts here for years, every time the CPC does something, I can count on you to come and start crying about it. As usual.

Like in this thread, you are afraid we will find a way to bypass an American naval blockade of our oil and gas routes.

No idea what are you talking about，I'm not even against what CPC have done to help Russia.I'm just against some naive fools.

So what are you crying about?

Why do you think the CPC helped Russia, if not to help China's own interests?

Who is the naive one here?