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The government of Uttar Pradesh in India has banned the production, storage, distribution, and sale of food products with the Halal certification

Cosmetics and medication I can understand. But medical devices? Halal certification of meat is widespread in my country. In fact, 99% of the meat products are halal and nobody raises a fuss. Point being is that somebody is profiting using religion to certify anything and everything as halal. we know that they charge a fee to do so. It's ok to be innovative and make a profit. It's the abuse of the religion when doing so which is questionable
Be wary when Hindus make blanket statements like these because they have this tendency to lie when they think they can get away with it. Even if there is a certification for them, why ban it? Is anyone forcing companies to get certification? They keep crying about blackmail but when have Muslims forced any company to get certification? The only reason companies do it is to entice Muslim consumers. Hindus have been crying about halal for years. They have launched their own alternative certifications and now they're finally banning it because they still seethe about Muslims. There is no other reason or justification for this move.

and forcing us eat Halal or Jataka is against our religion but unlike in Kerala the place we live for beef we have to depend on Muslim shops and unlike Hindu shops Muslim shop owners never adjust to our needs and we are forced to eat Halal meats.
Oye who is forcing you to eat either? Also look at the shamelessness of this mallu bandar, he doesn't want to eat the halal meat of butchers, so he wants to force them to stop butchering halal so he can eat what he likes. Sharam karo, ganday mallu. Teri shakal dekh before you start talking the way you are. No problem fantasizing about slurping down the blood of Jesus but halal main koi problem hai.
 
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Lol excuse, this is anti Muslim state, any one knows it. They just make thing up

Why dont you live in India ? Your values is not fit with USA

There will be many Halal products from other country like Indonesia that get banned in that state as well. All distribution, store, etc

@Indos
Indonesia put a ban on Chinese names
Tomorrow India might put a ban on Arabic names

As we say on PDF
Our country our rules
Their country their rules
 
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India is a hindu nation , what halal or haram has to do with hindus ?

Problem is they insist for having Halal certified products & services and expect others to respect it also.

Muslim community in India expect they should be cared & respected, but when it comes to reverse they behave otherwise.
They should go to pakistan .
 
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oh no, no more cow for burger am hungry.
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Its huge, the population is like whole Indonesia (4 biggest nation on earth based on population)

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That Yogi Bear is quite infamous for his anti-Muslim rhetoric! It's no surprise that a piss guzzling, grass grazing pujari like him is against Halal certified meat, heh!


If it was up to him, he'd ban all meat.

 
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Be wary when Hindus make blanket statements like these because they have this tendency to lie when they think they can get away with it. Even if there is a certification for them, why ban it? Is anyone forcing companies to get certification? They keep crying about blackmail but when have Muslims forced any company to get certification? The only reason companies do it is to entice Muslim consumers. Hindus have been crying about halal for years. They have launched their own alternative certifications and now they're finally banning it because they still seethe about Muslims. There is no other reason or justification for this move.


Oye who is forcing you to eat either? Also look at the shamelessness of this mallu bandar, he doesn't want to eat the halal meat of butchers, so he wants to force them to stop butchering halal so he can eat what he likes. Sharam karo, ganday mallu. Teri shakal dekh before you start talking the way you are. No problem fantasizing about slurping down the blood of Jesus but halal main koi problem hai.
Those cutwas who are obsessed with halal can go to pakistan , Hindu country does not need pakistanis,

So indian officials in UP will also ban kosher food ? i thought indian worship israel
Everything is ok , but no pakistani culture in hindu country .
 
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Halal meat hasn't been banned. Halal certification has been banned. Muslims can still go to a muslim butcher and buy meat, which I am certain will be halal. Butchers are overwhelmingly Muslims, so nothing changes on the ground, really. What does change is that in a restaurant (where you are not aware of the religion of the business owner) a Muslim will have to ask if the meat is halal or not. Chances are that it will be, because Hindu buyers aren't particular whether the meat is halal or jhatka.

However, if the UP govt really wants an end to halal meat (and not just certification) it will have to do zabardasti and force Hindus to eat only jhatka meat. As long as the average Hindu is indifferent to the kind of slaughter, this won't change anything practically.

I also know from unofficial channels that the Muslim body which certifies halal is corrupt and awards certifications without any due diligence.

From my limited knowledge, halal meat requires:
  1. Slaughter method is dhabihah
  2. The knife is very sharp
  3. The animal is not slaughtered in presence of another
  4. The knife is not visible to the animal before slaughter
  5. Some Islamic prayer is recited while slaughtering
Points 3,4,5 are never followed. By the above guidelines, none of the meat in the market is halal.
 
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Those cutwas who are obsessed with halal can go to pakistan , Hindu country does not need pakistanis,

Nor does this forum needs Pajeets and yet... here we are!
 
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Halal meat hasn't been banned. Halal certification has been banned. Muslims can still go to a muslim butcher and buy meat, which I am certain will be halal. Butchers are overwhelmingly Muslims, so nothing changes on the ground, really. What does change is that in a restaurant (where you are not aware of the religion of the business owner) a Muslim will have to ask if the meat is halal or not. Chances are that it will be, because Hindu buyers aren't particular whether the meat is halal or jhatka.

However, if the UP govt really wants an end to halal meat (and not just certification) it will have to do zabardasti and force Hindus to eat only jhatka meat. As long as the average Hindu is indifferent to the kind of slaughter, this won't change anything practically.

I also know from unofficial channels that the Muslim body which certifies halal is corrupt and awards certifications without any due diligence.
Peesful reljan have very bad habit of spitting in food which they serve to their customers in pees ful restaurants .
 
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Peesful reljan have bad habit of spitting in food which they serve to their customers in pees ful restaurants .

A spritz of spit beats urine gravy, I always say!
 
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Some Islamic prayer is recited while slaughtering

Islamic prayer?

Nah. All you've to say is 'Allah-o-Akbar' before slaughtering the animal, just to reflect that the animal was slaughtered (or sacrificed) in the name of Allah.

That's why Christians and Jews are permitted to slaughter animals for Halal meat. We all believe in the same God, after all.

Plus, we are also allowed to consume Kosher certified meat.
 
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Yeah, products which have pig extracted gelatin, or animal extract for such animals which were not slaughtered the Halal way are not allowed to be consumed by Muslims.
That's why Halal certification. So that companies verify if such criteria has been met or not. So that people can decide whether to buy that product or not after being informed of the origins and way of obtaining certain ingredients.
People should have the right to know such details. After all it's their money and their body. They should choose where to spend their money and what enters their body.
Take this all halal things to muslim countries, we are hindu nation.

Oye poolll shapporter poojari, no one's stopping you from certifying your cow piss as 100% authentic. Stop pinning things on Mujlimj to cover for your own beastliness.
Hindu country does not need this halaal drama , go to pakistan and enjoy your khota biryani .
 
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This is an interesting subject actually. The issue arises not because Muslims demand halal products, but because Hindus don't demand any particular kind of product. If Hindus were to en masse decide that we want our own version of halal, then sellers will provide that version too, because it is the bulk of the market. In fact Muslims sellers can participate in that market too, unless they are expressly banned by Hindus. In the end, from the seller's point of view, this is no different from product specification. They will produce what you ask them to. In some ways the Hindu version of halal does exist, in the form of 'veg-only' restaurants or ayurvedic products. There are Muslim ayurvedic doctors in Kerala and many Muslims do eat in 'veg-only' restaurants. It is an issue of production efficiency, stocking, distribution etc really, and the onus is on sellers to decide if they can cater to all segments of the market.

The biggest hatcheries in India are owned by non-Muslims -
Venkateshwara, Suguna, Nandu's - Hindu owners
Godrej - Parsi owners
Their packets all say 'halal'. They are not doing it out of love for Muslims or Islam or secularism. They are doing it because of market dynamics. If Hindus decide they will eat only jhatka meat and demand the certification, these companies will produce jhatka meat also. They will be qeueing up outside govt offices to get their jhatka licence.
 
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This is an interesting subject actually. The issue arises not because Muslims demand halal products, but because Hindus don't demand any particular kind of product. If Hindus were to en masse decide that we want our own version of halal, then sellers will provide that version too, because it is the bulk of the market. In fact Muslims sellers can participate in that market too, unless they are expressly banned by Hindus. In the end, from the seller's point of view, this is no different from product specification. They will produce what you ask them to. In some ways the Hindu version of halal does exist, in the form of 'veg-only' restaurants or ayurvedic products. There are Muslim ayurvedic doctors in Kerala and many Muslims do eat in 'veg-only' restaurants. It is an issue of production efficiency, stocking, distribution etc really, and the onus is on sellers to decide if they can cater to all segments of the market.

The biggest hatcheries in India are owned by non-Muslims -
Venkateshwara, Suguna, Nandu's - Hindu owners
Godrej - Parsi owners
Their packets all say 'halal'. They are not doing it out of love for Muslims or Islam or secularism. They are doing it because of market dynamics. If Hindus decide they will eat only jhatka meat and demand the certification, these companies will produce jhatka meat also. They will be qeueing up outside govt offices to get their jhatka licence.
Hindu country does not need this drama .
 
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