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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-59061-9

"Interestingly, Y-STR analyses showed a closer affinity of Gujjars to other nomadic populations of Pashtuns from Baghlans and Kunduz provinces of Afghanistan and Pashtuns and Sindhis of Pakistan."

41598_2020_59061_Fig3_HTML.png


PA = Pashtuns (Pakistani)
SI = Sindhis (Pakistan)
PA_KU = Kunduz Pashtuns (Afghanistan)
PA_BA = Baghlans Pashtuns (Afghanistan)
GJ = Gujjars (Kashmir)

https://www.researchgate.net/public...tionship_with_neighbouring_Indian_populations

"pairwise analysis suggest close genetic relationship between three Indian populations (Andh, Naikpod, Pardhan), while genetically distinct from the two Pakistani Populations (Gujars and Karlars)."

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23802359.2019.1682474

"The haplogroups frequencies, phylogenetic tree and network analysis identified the west Eurasian ancestral origin of Shina group with nearby maternal ancestral relationships with the Kashmiri population."

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/24701394.2017.1350951?journalCode=imdn21


"matrilineal gene pool was phylogeographically homogenous across the Punjab."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5378296/


"In summary, we show that the Brahui, the only Dravidian-speaking population of Pakistan, do not show a higher genetic affinity with Dravidian Indians than any of their neighbouring Indo-European-speaking Pakistani populations."

Another relevant image that I've unfortunately forgotten the source of (I'm sure @Talwar e Pakistan can help me out with this one):

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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-59061-9

"Interestingly, Y-STR analyses showed a closer affinity of Gujjars to other nomadic populations of Pashtuns from Baghlans and Kunduz provinces of Afghanistan and Pashtuns and Sindhis of Pakistan."

41598_2020_59061_Fig3_HTML.png


PA = Pashtuns (Pakistani)
SI = Sindhis (Pakistan)
PA_KU = Kunduz Pashtuns (Afghanistan)
PA_BA = Baghlans Pashtuns (Afghanistan)
GJ = Gujjars (Kashmir)

https://www.researchgate.net/public...tionship_with_neighbouring_Indian_populations

"pairwise analysis suggest close genetic relationship between three Indian populations (Andh, Naikpod, Pardhan), while genetically distinct from the two Pakistani Populations (Gujars and Karlars)."

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23802359.2019.1682474

"The haplogroups frequencies, phylogenetic tree and network analysis identified the west Eurasian ancestral origin of Shina group with nearby maternal ancestral relationships with the Kashmiri population."

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/24701394.2017.1350951?journalCode=imdn21


"matrilineal gene pool was phylogeographically homogenous across the Punjab."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5378296/


"In summary, we show that the Brahui, the only Dravidian-speaking population of Pakistan, do not show a higher genetic affinity with Dravidian Indians than any of their neighbouring Indo-European-speaking Pakistani populations."

Other relevant images that I've unfortunately forgotten the sources of (I'm sure @Talwar e Pakistan can help me out with this one):

View attachment 620294

View attachment 620295
Thank you. Your contribution is priceless. I shall go through this in the evening.
 
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Which year you became interested in IVC?
There was no 'year'. It was a slow and gradual evolution in my mind. I began with the idea of Pakistan as another synomym for 'Islam' or 'Muslims' in my teenage years. But in late teens was exposed to Iranians, Turks, Gujji Muslims from India, Banglas, Yemenis etc and saw that 'Muslims' came in every shape/size/culture. So that raised the question what was 'Pakistan'? After all Turks, Iranians, Gujju Muslims, Banglas, Malays etc were also Muslim but we were not the same as them. Thus began a slow journey of discovery which continues of the decades. I must admit Aitzaz Ahsan's "The Indus Saga" did have a major impact because it actualled addressed many of the issues/questions I had in my mind.
 
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There was no 'year'. It was a slow and gradual evolution in my mind. I began with the idea of Pakistan as another synomym for 'Islam' or 'Muslims' in my teenage years. But in late teens was exposed to Iranians, Turks, Gujji Muslims from India, Banglas, Yemenis etc and saw that 'Muslims' came in every shape/size/culture. So that raised the question what was 'Pakistan'? After all Turks, Iranians, Gujju Muslims, Banglas, Malays etc were also Muslim but we were not the same as them. Thus began a slow journey of discovery which continues of the decades. I must admit Aitzaz Ahsan's "The Indus Saga" did have a major impact because it actualled addressed many of the issues/questions I had in my mind.

Sir, please stay here on this forum and do not get banned. We need members like you here. if possible ignore some controversies in the other subforums and renew your focus here. One of the reasons I joined this forum is due to your posts.

Always stay blessed.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-59061-9

"Interestingly, Y-STR analyses showed a closer affinity of Gujjars to other nomadic populations of Pashtuns from Baghlans and Kunduz provinces of Afghanistan and Pashtuns and Sindhis of Pakistan."

41598_2020_59061_Fig3_HTML.png


PA = Pashtuns (Pakistani)
SI = Sindhis (Pakistan)
PA_KU = Kunduz Pashtuns (Afghanistan)
PA_BA = Baghlans Pashtuns (Afghanistan)
GJ = Gujjars (Kashmir)

https://www.researchgate.net/public...tionship_with_neighbouring_Indian_populations

"pairwise analysis suggest close genetic relationship between three Indian populations (Andh, Naikpod, Pardhan), while genetically distinct from the two Pakistani Populations (Gujars and Karlars)."

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23802359.2019.1682474

"The haplogroups frequencies, phylogenetic tree and network analysis identified the west Eurasian ancestral origin of Shina group with nearby maternal ancestral relationships with the Kashmiri population."

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/24701394.2017.1350951?journalCode=imdn21


"matrilineal gene pool was phylogeographically homogenous across the Punjab."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5378296/


"In summary, we show that the Brahui, the only Dravidian-speaking population of Pakistan, do not show a higher genetic affinity with Dravidian Indians than any of their neighbouring Indo-European-speaking Pakistani populations."

Another relevant image that I've unfortunately forgotten the source of (I'm sure @Talwar e Pakistan can help me out with this one):

View attachment 620295

It proves again how racially different we are to Indians. We are much closer to Afghans than any others, as is shown here.
 
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