The future of Muslims in India according to the Hindus

[AfrazulMandal]

33% is too high, we can aim for 10% though.
And yup, a reservation model can work. And it will solve problem both ways - Muslims will become more "patriotic" and gain influence too.

Don't care for patriotism. It is old and very 19th century.

But more influence is always welcome.

 

[ChennaiDude]

A wider integration is required in Armed forces, Bureaucracy and economy.

Agree- In theory the tools in the form of the constitution are there-Now its up to the people who fights for this to be implemented.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Muslims aspirations are justified but Hindus are not?- be truthful and answer that with out deflecting

Yes.

Because Hindus have been the ruling demography.

Muslims are the ones facing the heat.

 

[ChennaiDude]

That is for you to figure out.

If you give Muslims in India an option and a condition, I can guarantee a favorable result.

question - Do you want to live in a Muslim state in the safety of the community?
condition - Make sure the person responding is able to do so anonymously so that he/she does not have to bear the consequences of the response.

Lets say the roles are reversed!- (Hindus as Minority then what)- Thats why I said UCC is a must for a country like India-

 

[Naofumi]

Agree- In theory the tools in the form of the constitution are there-Now its up to the people who fights for this to be implemented.

In realpolitik, it's a long way.

 

[ChennaiDude]

In realpolitik, it's a long way.

At least this bigot of GOI has opened up this very important conversation!- Before things get better, it has to get real bad- I feel India is in a phase close to real bad- Hopefully this hatred being entertained is put to rest once and for all soon.- India first / Personal upliftment and education and prosperity as a human as the core for all Indians- Religion should never be a state policy and in fact should be done with on how a state functions.

 

[Cliftonite]

That is for you to figure out.

If you give Muslims in India an option and a condition, I can guarantee a favorable result.

question - Do you want to live in a Muslim state in the safety of the community?
condition - Make sure the person responding is able to do so anonymously so that he/she does not have to bear the consequences of the response.

Lol rehne do mere bhai. India ke Muslims se nahi hona. I think Indian Muslims are suffering from a mix of collective PTSD and masochism at the same time. They lash out at us Pakistanis, they lash out at Hindus (rightfully so) but jab unse halaat behtar karne ki baat karo tou they shut you down. You have two Indian Muslims fighting amongst each other here, you have one Indian Muslim calling us who migrated to Pakistan slurs of 'Muhajir'. You guys need to wake up from this weird mix of denial and fear and despair you've got going on

 

[Naofumi]

you have one Indian Muslim calling us who migrated to Pakistan slurs of 'Muhajir'.

Sorry bhai.

 

[ChennaiDude]

33% of the armed forces should have Muslims. The bureaucracy and economy can follow.
Plus, I think a force than has substantial Muslims will be less biased in cases of communcal violence.

Can a reservation model work here?

What do you think?

If all these criteria's are met, I am assuming you will be fine with one India without breaking it up again on religious lines?- See its that easy to think through a probable solution - No

Yes.

Because Hindus have been the ruling demography.

Muslims are the ones facing the heat.

Thats what I am asking- What if roles were reversed then where does this end- (Breaking up a nation in todays world is not an option).

 

[AfrazulMandal]

If all these criteria's are met, I am assuming you will be fine with one India without breaking it up again on religious lines?- See its that easy to think through a probable solution - No


Thats what I am asking- What if roles were reversed then where does this end- (Breaking up a nation in todays world is not an option).

Yeah sure. Breaking up is not necessary. Not even desirable.

It is the last resort to save Muslims from genocide.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Yeah sure. Breaking up is not necessary. Not even desirable.

It is the last resort to save Muslims from genocide.

Do you even know the definition of genocide- please post links or news of genocide with numbers (Has it ever happened in India?- communal clashes to some degree yes).

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Do you even know the definition of genocide- please post links or news of genocide with numbers (Has it ever happened in India?- communal clashes to some degree yes).

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24159594

@Naofumi @The_Showstopper @xeuss

There were infamous Jammu genocides too - where Jammu turned from Muslim to Hindu Sikh majority.

 

[ChennaiDude]

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24159594

@Naofumi @The_Showstopper @xeuss

There were infamous Jammu genocides too - where Jammu turned from Muslim to Hindu Sikh majority.

You are posting a 1948 news article to back up your claim- Has it happened recently? (in the last 30 years or so).

 

[AfrazulMandal]

You are posting a 1948 news article to back up your claim- Has it happened recently? (in the last 30 years or so).

Of course, you are waiting for it.

(in the last 30 years or so).

Gujarat genocide.
Kashmir genocide.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Of course, you are waiting for it.

There we go deflecting again- You made a statement on genocide - I asked for links - you provided a link talking about 1948- Now you say I am waiting for it- what happened- You need to up your game man-you dropped the ball there.