THE FORGOTTEN WAR IN KASHMIR IS TURNING NASTY

[HAIDER]

Actually China has extended the plan and include Russia and Central Asia republic in this project.

 

[xyxmt]

LOL - And what exactly did you took when we took Siachen?

you can keep Siachan, that was your anyway, so is kargil keep it, untill next try...but brave try and cowards just duck in and protect themself. having said that what a comparision, Siachan Vs. Kashmir and GB

Elite members are doing comedy excellently...

punch line remains

How is it that I'm getting ridiculed by some Pakistani 'patriots' just for saying this?

there are Indians disguised as Pakistani patriots

 

[B@KH]

This struggle must come to a logical conclusion, with or without the help of the UN. India has not left any stone unturned in order to suppress the struggle and destabilize Pakistan in return, so it's time that Pakistan took her gloves off. You got to play nasty if the game is nasty. Pakistan had the opportunity to settle the dispute in 1962 but failed to do so because of the US pressure. This is another or perhaps the last opportunity, this time Pakistan is seemingly free from the US influence.

Right on target.

In 1962 the traitors and saudi puppet general Ayub rejected the Chinese offer for help.
China even landed its military in kashmir and told the traitor to take kashmir.
This traitor was famous as sheep general among military ranks and became a self declared Field Marshal.
Sold two rivers to india under the cover of harmful water treaty.
1960 Water Treaty with India was a milestone that pak is not interested and will not take take Kashmir as said that time since all rivers originate from Kashmir.

Now it is not Pak that has to decide alone. There are other players too in the game with final say.

 

[sbh02]

The kashmiri people in the Valley don't trust anyone now, not the PDP/NC, not the central government, not the Army or the separatists. This does not bode well for India.

 

[Deepika Maheshwari]

The kashmiri people in the Valley don't trust anyone now, not the PDP/NC, not the central government, not the Army or the separatists. This does not bode well for India.

It certainly does not bode well for separatists. As far as India is concerned - Kashmir is too small. I wonder if Indian government is waiting for winters. So that it will be much harder for Pakistani Army to infiltrate. May be then they will start some kind of operation to get rid of this Kashmiri disease of Azadi.

 

[sbh02]

It certainly does not bode well for separatists. As far as India is concerned - Kashmir is too small. I wonder if Indian government is waiting for winters. So that it will be much harder for Pakistani Army to infiltrate. May be then they will start some kind of operation to get rid of this Kashmiri disease of Azadi.

The uprising was from indigenous Kashmiri youth, you can live in fantasy world, but Kashmir Valley is full of disenfranchised youth. The thousands of people injured by pellet guns will pick up arms against the state if they get hold of arms. India has failed to win over the hearts and minds of the kashmiri people, and the whole world knows that. If you think you can win over the hearts of Kashmiri people by force, you are sadly mistaken.

 

[RepublicOk]

Whatever.. You pick up arms against the state, you dead nigger.

 

[Jf Thunder]

I thought almost all the Kashmiris were out in the streets, perhaps I've been given the wrong impression.

they are unarmed................

 

[Kaniska]

Day dreaming is the best way to come out of some mental illusion.If any point of time in our post indedence history,Pakistan has a chance to occupy Kashmir by war, it was before 1990 when Indian was at its low.
And T-Rex, why are you under the illusion that Pakistan has not taken it gloves off and already playing nasty with India with respect Kashmir. It is a different issue that Pakistan is not getting successful with their desired objective so it is getting published.

Just to let you know, present day J&K and majority of land mass that includes Jammu and Ladakh is very much like normal Indian states...It is just few districts that are hail bent on spoling another generation of Kashmir youth on road pelting stones and getting killed...Now at least we have freedom where people can choose their own destinty where either they can be on the road throwing stones or they can be a bright student with good future..Their wish and thier destiny, they are fully responsible what ever is stored for those stone pelters..

India will and should do to protect its integrity even also human rights comes as a cost of maintaining the integrity. If human right is an issue then Baloch people and their voices could have been heard since long time ...Same story goes to Tiber in China too....So this human right issue is a bogey that can be used whenever you would like to calm down your opponent...

 

[sbh02]

Day dreaming is the best way to come out of some mental illusion.If any point of time in our post indedence history,Pakistan has a chance to occupy Kashmir by war, it was before 1990 when Indian was at its low.
And T-Rex, why are you under the illusion that Pakistan has not taken it gloves off and already playing nasty with India with respect Kashmir. It is a different issue that Pakistan is not getting successful with their desired objective so it is getting published.

Just to let you know, present day J&K and majority of land mass that includes Jammu and Ladakh is very much like normal Indian states...It is just few districts that are hail bent on spoling another generation of Kashmir youth on road pelting stones and getting killed...Now at least we have freedom where people can choose their own destinty where either they can be on the road throwing stones or they can be a bright student with good future..Their wish and thier destiny, they are fully responsible what ever is stored for those stone pelters..

India will and should do to protect its integrity even also human rights comes as a cost of maintaining the integrity. If human right is an issue then Baloch people and their voices could have been heard since long time ...Same story goes to Tiber in China too....So this human right issue is a bogey that can be used whenever you would like to calm down your opponent...

"Mr Azad said two-thirds of Jammu and Kashmir is involved in the unrest and the magnitude of the problem is far bigger than 2010 civilian unrest."

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bjp-the-right-party-to-solve-kashmir-taunts-ghulam-nabi-azad-1452278

As Kashmir Turmoil Continues, Ladakh Demands Secession from Valley

https://www.thequint.com/kashmir-af...n-from-valley-jammu-burhan-wani-curfew-kargil

Simple solution: let Ladakh join India (people support India), let Gilgit-Baltistan join Pakistan (the people of G-B support Pakistan, and do not consider themselves as Kashmiris); and hold referendum in Azad Kashmir and J&K Valley.

 

[Kaniska]

"Mr Azad said two-thirds of Jammu and Kashmir is involved in the unrest and the magnitude of the problem is far bigger than 2010 civilian unrest."

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bjp-the-right-party-to-solve-kashmir-taunts-ghulam-nabi-azad-1452278

As Kashmir Turmoil Continues, Ladakh Demands Secession from Valley

https://www.thequint.com/kashmir-af...n-from-valley-jammu-burhan-wani-curfew-kargil

Simple solution: let Ladakh join India (people support India), let Gilgit-Baltistan join Pakistan (the people of G-B support Pakistan, and do not consider themselves as Kashmiris); and hold referendum in Azad Kashmir and J&K Valley.

Dear friend...i putting some facts collected from ground...Wheever we need a serious discussion, usually i do not quote politicians from neither your country nor mine...That is why i was one of the few Indian posters who categorically did not support the idea of Altaf Hussain when he told something anti pakistan in public...

The intent of my post is to just put some facts that can be a basis of rational discussion. Otherwise, India is a nation of hundreds of varities and people..You do not know about so many people saying so many things...If we start quoting them, we will not realize the ground reality.

The fact is Srinagar Valley and few districts of people are on the streets...Agreed...They are highly anti Indian in nature..i do not disagree with it...But does that mean, entire Jammu and Kashmir is anti Indian??? No..Of course No....Then why should India entertain something which does not cover majority area of the state? Who cares about Human rights when nations and its integrity is at stake??

Trust me, i have seen worst in Kashmir in 1990...These protests are simply nothing in comparison to 1990 time...India and it business will be completely as usual, if stone pelter would like to spoil there future...Their wish and their future..

 

[sbh02]

Dear friend...i putting some facts collected from ground...Wheever we need a serious discussion, usually i do not quote politicians from neither your country nor mine...That is why i was one of the few Indian posters who categorically did not support the idea of Altaf Hussain when he told something anti pakistan in public...

The intent of my post is to just put some facts that can be a basis of rational discussion. Otherwise, India is a nation of hundreds of varities and people..You do not know about so many people saying so many things...If we start quoting them, we will not realize the ground reality.

The fact is Srinagar Valley and few districts of people are on the streets...Agreed...They are highly anti Indian in nature..i do not disagree with it...But does that mean, entire Jammu and Kashmir is anti Indian??? No..Of course No....Then why should India entertain something which does not cover majority area of the state? Who cares about Human rights when nations and its integrity is at stake??

Trust me, i have seen worst in Kashmir in 1990...These protests are simply nothing in comparison to 1990 time...India and it business will be completely as usual, if stone pelter would like to spoil there future...Their wish and their future..

I agree that Ladakh and Jammu are not anti-Indian, but the Kashmir Valley is. Let Ladakh and Jammu stay with India, hold referendum in the Kashmir region. Ladakh is wanting to secede from the Valley anyways, as I mentioned in my previous post.

Likewise, people in Gilgit-Baltistan in Pakistan do not consider themselves as Kashmiri, and want to be part of Pakistan.

Azad Kashmir is technically not part of Pakistan right now anyways, it is a de-facto nation.

Hold referendum in Azad Kashmir and Kashmir region in India. We'll see what happens.

 

[Kaniska]

I agree that Ladakh and Jammu are not anti-Indian, but the Kashmir Valley is. Let Ladakh and Jammu stay with India, hold referendum in the Kashmir region. Ladakh is wanting to secede from the Valley anyways, as I mentioned in my previous post.

Likewise, people in Gilgit-Baltistan in Pakistan do not consider themselves as Kashmiri, and want to be part of Pakistan.

Azad Kashmir is technically not part of Pakistan right now anyways, it is a de-facto nation.

Hold referendum in Azad Kashmir and Kashmir region in India. We'll see what happens.

Thanks for being realistic and i appriciate that...but tell me what good reason why will a nation will want to loose a territory just because people want it???...People of Tibet do not want to be part of China, do you think China at any point of time will allow to leave its control on Tibet? In case Baloch people would like to separate from Pakistan, will Pakistan allow them to do it?....Again, forget about UN resolution and other things for a moment...Make India a villian for a moment...I do not mind...But what will Indian get in return if India make a referendum and Kashmir valley vote to get separated??

To be honest, i do not really care what your area of Kashmir and other part is all about...You keep them and enjoy it...

 

[T-Rex]

Right on target.

In 1962 the traitors and saudi puppet general Ayub rejected the Chinese offer for help.
China even landed its military in kashmir and told the traitor to take kashmir.
This traitor was famous as sheep general among military ranks and became a self declared Field Marshal.
Sold two rivers to india under the cover of harmful water treaty.
1960 Water Treaty with India was a milestone that pak is not interested and will not take take Kashmir as said that time since all rivers originate from Kashmir.

Now it is not Pak that has to decide alone. There are other players too in the game with final say.

The indians and most surprisingly many Pakistanis on this forum deny this fact!

you can keep Siachan, that was your anyway, so is kargil keep it, untill next try...but brave try and cowards just duck in and protect themself. having said that what a comparision, Siachan Vs. Kashmir and GB



punch line remains



there are Indians disguised as Pakistani patriots

I think there are also CIA bugs disguised as Pakistani patriots!

LOLLOL - read some history.

I've studies history but not the history custom tailored by indian RAW.

 

[zebra7]

India is occupied by something invisible to naked eye, it will only come to play after the first shots are fired. The US was behind india in 1962 and the US is is still behind india, it didn't make any difference in 1962 and it won't make any difference now.

Tumar Baadi Kothay Aachi