The first wife syndrome!

[Norwegian]

The counter to that is Pakistan did claim Hyderabad, Junagadh and even tried to entice the Maharaja of Jodhpur into joining Pakistan. Can hardly then claim that Kashmir was an act of India perfidy. Just that Indian succeeded and Pakistan failed.

Nawab of Junagadh acceded to Pakistan just like Maharaja of Kashmir acceded to India. Both states thus became disputed territories. When India invaded Junagadh, Pakistan didn't send its forces to intervene. But when Pakistan invaded Kashmir, India just had to intervene thus jump-starting the conflict (Kashmir-conflict) to this day. As I said, a bunch of hypocrites. And btw, you didn't "win" Kashmir. Its already divided in half with a majority of kashmiri population still MUSLIM!

The idea of jinnah was never to have a peaceful existence of a hindu india and muslim pakistan. but to have one undivided pakistan , while having India disintegrated in to smaller states. he even extended support for independent tamil nadu and malabbar . sadly everything fired back.

Rohingya Muslims of Burma appealed Jinnah that he let their part of population join East Pakistan. Jinnah refused. Now they are being burnt and persecuted by their Buddhist countrymen!

 

[anant_s]

Pakistan will not develop as a country and become a stable member of the world comity unless it sheds its India-centric foreign (and even domestic) policy. None of India’s neighbours do it to the extent we do it, and unless we stop obsessing about India all the time, we will never move on.

How should i give 5 stars to that.

While the analogies are little obscure at places, i find the general thought behind the article quite realistic unlike the Phobia centered commentary we have heard recently.

Blame Mountbatten and Nehru for ensuring an unfair partition to both sides even if they were acting out of their own perceived interests. A properly done partition without leaving the issues of water, Kashmir and other areas would have painted a very different future for the two countries. Pakistan's insecurity is directly due to it being made an amputee at partition.. something that ended up giving India a paranoid and hostile neighbour from day 1.

& therefore sir IMHO, after nearly 7 decades, this feeling of insecurity must not be passed on to next generations. In future, people of both countries must be able to look and judge each other based on ground reality today and not on animosity and hatred of past. Yes we can always argue, Britain could've done things differently, leaders from both sides could've been more mature and taken time, but it is of little use now.
Can't change the past, why let it ruin future.

 

[itachiii]

LOL. Go read history of Nizam Hyderabad and their hundreds of years of accomplishments in that state.

I was born and brought up in hyderabad. I know what the nizam did and what he didn't. It is u who hve to read the history of hyderabd on how nizam and his razakkars tried to suppress the rising anger among the local population by killing hindus en masse... Hindu majority of the state would have never accepted hyderabad to be a part of pakistan or be an independent country under muslim rule. @wolfschanzze

 

[Norwegian]

I know what the nizam did and what he didn't. It is u who hve to read the history of hyderabd on how nizam and his razakkars tried to suppress the rising anger among the local population by killing hindus en masse...

Nice try. Why would centuries old dynastic ruler whose family contributed so much advancements and progress in their state suddenly go on killing spree against hindu majority to calm down the already growing "anger"?

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Nawab of Junagadh acceded to Pakistan just like Maharaja of Kashmir acceded to India. Both states thus became disputed territories. When India invaded Junagadh, Pakistan didn't send its forces to intervene. But when Pakistan invaded Kashmir, India just had to intervene thus jump-starting the conflict (Kashmir-conflict) to this day. As I said, a bunch of hypocrites. And btw, you didn't "win" Kashmir. Its already divided in half with a majority of kashmiri population still MUSLIM!



Rohingya Muslims of Burma appealed Jinnah that he let their part of population join East Pakistan. Jinnah refused. Now they are being burnt and persecuted by their Buddhist countrymen!

india controls 43 % of kashmire
china controls 20%
pakistan controls 37%
we used to controll 39 % before the trans karakoram pact with china

 

[third eye]

Knowledge :: States of India :: Sikkim

Goa was not a princely state, but it was a vessel state of Portuguese for more than 500 years!

Thats right .

Colonialism had to go & Portuguese colonies were de colonised between 1050 -74.

Dadar & Nagar Haveli reverted in 54 , Goa in 61.

 

[itachiii]

Rohingya Muslims of Burma appealed Jinnah that he let their part of population join East Pakistan. Jinnah refused. Now they are being burnt and persecuted by their Buddhist countrymen!

what does rohingyas have to do with partition of India and pakistan ? let me tell this again jinnah always wanted an undivided muslim pakistan , while expecting india to be disintegrated... no one in his wildest dreams would have expected 500 princely states to be acceded in to India. thank god , we had sardar patel ... if it wasn't for him the map of sub continent would have looked completely different..

 

[Norwegian]

india controls 43 % of kashmire
china controls 20%
pakistan controls 37%
we used to controll 39 % before the trans karakoram pact with china

Indians say we Pakistanis are "obsessed" with Kashmir. The fact remains, its not We but they who are obsessed with Muslim majority Kashmir to this date

 

[itachiii]

Nice try. Why would centuries old dynastic ruler whose family contributed so much advancements and progress in their state suddenly go on killing spree against hindu majority to calm down the already growing "anger"?

watch this...

Indians say we Pakistanis are "obsessed" with Kashmir. The fact remains, its not We but they who are obsessed with Muslim majority Kashmir to this date

If u want the muslims of kashmir to be part of pak , invite them and give them citizenship.. but kashmir is going to a part of India fot the rest of the future...

 

[Bang Galore]

Nawab of Junagadh acceded to Pakistan just like Maharaja of Kashmir acceded to India. Both states thus became disputed territories. When India invaded Junagadh, Pakistan didn't send its forces to intervene. But when Pakistan invaded Kashmir, India just had to intervene thus jump-starting the conflict (Kashmir-conflict) to this day. As I said, a bunch of hypocrites. And btw, you didn't "win" Kashmir. Its already divided in half with a majority of kashmiri population still MUSLIM!

Same point. you wanted princely states with majority Hindu population to join Pakistan. India succeeded, you failed. Not for the lack of trying. Jinnah pretty much offered the Maharaja of Jodhpur the moon in trying to get him to join Pakistan, a state almost wholly Hindu. To then use the logic of religious percentage is hypocritical, no matter how you look at it.

 

[SwAggeR]

Blasphemy Law is not an extermination program, not even close to "systematic" extermination! You cannot believe if I tell you that Christian community in Pakistan is thriving despite that Blasphemy law!

Lol .

Are you real for sure ??

Pakistan Blasphemy Law

What are Pakistan's blasphemy laws? - BBC News

Christian Couple Killed By Mob In Latest Pakistan 'Blasphemy' Case : Parallels : NPR

Husband of Pakistani Christian woman pleads for blasphemy pardon | World news | The Guardian

There are scores of more news links available.

 

[Norwegian]

India succeeded, you failed.

India succeeded? LOL You could never convince entire Kashmiri population to support India, hence the use of military force to this day over there

If u want the muslims of kashmir to be part of pak , invite them and give them citizenship.. but kashmir is going to a part of India fot the rest of the future...

They already are. Azad Kashmir is integral part of Pakistan since 1947. We have no hundred and thousands of Jawan present over there to "enforce" our authority like you guys are doing in Jammu and Kashmir

 

[Bang Galore]

India succeeded? LOL You could never convince entire Kashmiri population to support India, hence the use of military force to this day over there

You know about the law of possession.....not like Pakistan was going to or interested in convincing the Hindu populations in those states mentioned.

 

[third eye]

As I said, a bunch of hypocrites.

In International politics & in the affairs of a state Hypocracy is a word used by those on the losing / recieving end.

Those on the winning / giving end call it real politik.

Realpolitik (from German: real "realistic", "practical", or "actual"; andPolitik "politics", German pronunciation: [ʁeˈaːlpoliˌtɪk]) is politics or diplomacy based primarily on power and on practical and material factors and considerations, rather than explicit ideological notions or moral or ethical premises.

 

[Norwegian]

You know about the law of possession.....not like Pakistan was going to or interested in convincing the Hindu populations in those states mentioned.

Pakistan had no interest in Hindu-majority states of India, or it would have attacked Junagadh, when it was acceded to Pakistan in 15 Sep 1947 and occupied by India on 9 Nov 1947.

In International politics & in the affairs of a state Hypocracy is a word used by those on the losing / recieving end.

Pakistan didn't lose anything apart from a part of Kashmir. East Pakistan was sure a lost case, but this was because of our military's wrongdoing and nothing to do with India

Lol .

Are you real for sure ??

Pakistan Blasphemy Law

What are Pakistan's blasphemy laws? - BBC News

Christian Couple Killed By Mob In Latest Pakistan 'Blasphemy' Case : Parallels : NPR

Husband of Pakistani Christian woman pleads for blasphemy pardon | World news | The Guardian

There are scores of more news links available.

Individual cases here and there do not prove anything or should I sum up rape cases in India here and conclude India for being a rapist nation?