THE Father of Taiwan Lee Teng Hui

[Menthol]

He sold 1.4 billions of people.

But when he die, he doesn't bring anything to the afterlife.

Except his sins.

 

[Suika]

Quite good if you judge by people's waistlines, but what truly stands out is just how bizarre it all was.

If somebody told Deng the story how the future will turn out if he gives Jiang a go, he would've not believed it, thinking of it as a weird fiction.

In the end, the reality turned weirder than any fiction

Actually, I think Deng could believe.

Deng was a big supporter of Mao but his support stopped by mid 1950s after seeing ineffective amd wasteful Mao actually was a running the country. By not openly agreeing with Mao, Deng was purged, twice. Deng had a vision how to get China economy growing but hevhad to wait for Mao to finally die first. As soon as Mao died, Deng got things going. So in that way, Lee waited for Chiang to finally die but instead just echoed the party line instead of being more resistent like Deng was to Mao. One other difference though was that even though Deng did not agree with Mao and was pruged for it, Deng still was very loyal to the CCP. Lee was anti-KMT.

 

[bolo]

Japanese fascism has not been totally crushed like Germany.

Japanese believe their inherent superiority is responsible for them "beating" coronavirus.

But they haven't beaten Covid 19

 

[Nilgiri]

Actually, I think Deng could believe.

Deng was a big supporter of Mao but his support stopped by mid 1950s after seeing ineffective amd wasteful Mao actually was a running the country. By not openly agreeing with Mao, Deng was purged, twice. Deng had a vision how to get China economy growing but hevhad to wait for Mao to finally die first. As soon as Mao died, Deng got things going. So in that way, Lee waited for Chiang to finally die but instead just echoed the party line instead of being more resistent like Deng was to Mao. One other difference though was that even though Deng did not agree with Mao and was pruged for it, Deng still was very loyal to the CCP. Lee was anti-KMT.

Deng's and Hu's (only) alternating etc...could have taken PRC lot better place by now...and been quite a strong credible force in geopolitics.

These members are too arrogant to understand that.

They also have to justify the hot head "too high psyched drama complex" arrogant types like Mao's, Xi's and Jiang's....as complete package rather than deeply criticize as they ought to.

CCP power struggle and complexes within itself is quite interesting study if you look at this from a neutral setting.

 

[Paul2]

Actually, I think Deng could believe.

Deng was a big supporter of Mao but his support stopped by mid 1950s after seeing ineffective amd wasteful Mao actually was a running the country. By not openly agreeing with Mao, Deng was purged, twice. Deng had a vision how to get China economy growing but hevhad to wait for Mao to finally die first. As soon as Mao died, Deng got things going. So in that way, Lee waited for Chiang to finally die but instead just echoed the party line instead of being more resistent like Deng was to Mao. One other difference though was that even though Deng did not agree with Mao and was pruged for it, Deng still was very loyal to the CCP. Lee was anti-KMT.

You don't have an idea who Deng really was. Not even party activists seize Deng.

Deng was a "petite rightist" in the party as opposed to dyed in the wool rightists like Rao, and Gao.

A maximum what he wanted was a "birdcage economy," with party still strongly on the top, and continuing "revolutionary activity."

He was also a statist, but statist for the benefit of the party, and not because he was "so liberal."

His rationale for party apparatus-government apparatus separation was that if the government fails, the party can simply replace it with a new one. If the party, and the government are the same, replacing the government mean replacing the party.

A maximum of Deng's potential was to turn China into some kind of hybrid economy state, a sad examples of today which are Belarus, Eritrea, or what India was during Nehru.

Jiang is dyed in the wool bourgeois, anarchist, almost an aristocrat in his soul.

In his 10 years, he effectively deconstructed last vestiges of party-government connections, along with last checks that party had on bureaucracy, and made the party member card not worth the paper it's printed on.

But yeah, Jiang is the man to "blame" for China not following the route of India, and leaping ahead on economy many times over.

 

[ILC]