The F-35 slaughtered the competition in its latest test

[Centurion2016]

USA,technology is the best around.

Russia and China are way way behind

The f35 is here inducted fully tested ready to rumble.

J31.j20 and pak fa are a decade away to get to this maturity and even then will not boast the sensor fusion and real time comms and stealth of the USA

 

[Ultima Thule]

USA,technology is the best around.

Russia and China are way way behind

The f35 is here inducted fully tested ready to rumble.

J31.j20 and pak fa are a decade away to get to this maturity and even then will not boast the sensor fusion and real time comms and stealth of the USA

In the term of Electronics and sensor fusion Yes USA but in the term of aerodynamics and agility, maneuverability Russia and China is way way head

 

[Centurion2016]

In the term of Electronics and sensor fusion Yes USA but in the term of aerodynamics and agility, maneuverability Russia and China is way way head

Russia is ahead

China can't even build engines

 

[ibnarastoo]

In the term of Electronics and sensor fusion Yes USA but in the term of aerodynamics and agility, maneuverability Russia and China is way way head

This guy is something else, because he is right. Few Pakistanis would usually know this fact that Russia is in reality way way ahead in many aspects.

What does it mean for Pakistan? Keep the US as beloved, happy, content, joyous, most trusted friends (love them; for they still love you and you are still in the most favored nations list, don't forget your cold war allies ) but also love the Russians and Afghans.

Look to the Russians and Afghans with the same level of ardor and love that you reserve for the Saudis and the Arabs and your fellow Muslims (the Turks and Iranians) and even more. It is not just about military hardware. It is about quality of life and quality of our people . We obtain/manufacture military hardware so we can make our people a quality people and give them a safe and beautiful and prosperous life. We want to give all people peace of mind and a good society where they may love easily (and let others love easily), live easily (let others live easily), earn easily (and let others earn easily). We want to raise a people who are fair, tall, blonde/red haired blue/ green eyed etc. who feel safe and who are kind and gentle and generous and love each other as easily and selflessly as the Russians/Europeans/US. Help raise each other , and raise each other higher and higher particularly reverentially towards those to the west of us (and venture philanthropically, respectfully east not antagonistically east).

Perhaps don't let incorrect ideas and incorrect peoples, nations, civilizations distract you and embroil you. Your destiny is higher and higher with the Europeans and Russians and Canadians . (As is the destiny of your neighbors the Indians, the Bengalis and Chinese and Asians but don't let interactions with anyone drag you down to a sour unhappy antagonistic, pessimistic state of mind; and don't let successes lead you to become proud and start demanding revenge and violence either).
Gravitate towards what is most high and most good.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Russia is ahead

China can't even build engines

Who told you China can't build Engine? but yes they quite new to jet engine department you false flagged Indian Here it is the examples of jet engine made by China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guizhou_WS-13
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_WS-10
and future WS-15 for J-20 now get it kid this place is not for yours go play your toys

 

[Ultima Thule]

This guy is something else, because he is right. Few Pakistanis would usually know this fact that Russia is in reality way way ahead in many aspects.

What does it mean for Pakistan? Keep the US as beloved, happy, content, joyous, most trusted friends (love them; for they still love you and you are still in the most favored nations list, don't forget your cold war allies ) but also love the Russians and Afghans.

Look to the Russians and Afghans with the same level of ardor and love that you reserve for the Saudis and the Arabs and your fellow Muslims (the Turks and Iranians) and even more. It is not just about military hardware. It is about quality of life and quality of our people . We obtain/manufacture military hardware so we can make our people a quality people and give them a safe and beautiful and prosperous life. We want to give all people peace of mind and a good society where they may love easily (and let others love easily), live easily (let others live easily), earn easily (and let others earn easily). We want to raise a people who are fair, tall, blonde/red haired blue/ green eyed etc. who feel safe and who are kind and gentle and generous and love each other as easily and selflessly as the Russians/Europeans/US. Help raise each other , and raise each other higher and higher particularly reverentially towards those to the west of us (and venture philanthropically, respectfully east not antagonistically east).

Perhaps don't let incorrect ideas and incorrect peoples, nations, civilizations distract you and embroil you. Your destiny is higher and higher with the Europeans and Russians and Canadians . (As is the destiny of your neighbors the Indians, the Bengalis and Chinese and Asians but don't let interactions with anyone drag you down to a sour unhappy antagonistic, pessimistic state of mind; and don't let successes lead you to become proud and start demanding revenge and violence either).
Gravitate towards what is most high and most good.

Stay on topic bro don't post useless

 

[nang2]

Russia is ahead

China can't even build engines

China can. Just not the world best yet.

 

[F-22Raptor]

-The F-35 kill-loss ratio increased to 20:1.
-The F-35 achieved 145 air-to-air kills to only 7 losses (all of which were within visual range)
- 51 simulated/inert weapons were dropped, destroying 49 advanced SAM

 

[MarcsPakistan]

These are just numbers
in reality it will impossible to achieve this Kill ratio

 

[Azeri440]

These are just numbers
in reality it will impossible to achieve this Kill ratio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-15_Eagle

 

[MastanKhan]

These are just numbers
in reality it will impossible to achieve this Kill ratio

Hi,

Welcome to the forum---. This simulation or excercize is as close to reality that it can get.

In true combat----the kill ratio will be much higher in favor of the F-35.

I will ask the posters to do some mental excercize and come up with the reasons---if not---then I will divulge.

 

[Mustang06]

it was bound to happen!
Once the teething problem are resolved 4th gen fighter would be no competition for F35 in BVR combat.

 

[The Accountant]

Hi,

Welcome to the forum---. This simulation or excercize is as close to reality that it can get.

In true combat----the kill ratio will be much higher in favor of the F-35.

I will ask the posters to do some mental excercize and come up with the reasons---if not---then I will divulge.

Hi Mastan, in reality the opposition will have support from other ground assets which might be able to detect F-35 .... I think in these exercise most of the time it is plane v/s plane .... Russia and China are working on radars able to detect stealth aircraft and have some success ...

So I agree that F-35 has significant edge but this edge is limited to some scenarios ...

Furthermore, F-35 needs to open his radar to detect other aircraft as range of passive sensors is limited ...

Furthermore, how can have such a huge benefit in WVR combat as stealth have little impact is WVR ...

Remember these type of results also depands on policy makers ... at this point of time with Trump they nee to show F-35 tremendous success therefore results like this are need of the day of the people who are testing this result ...

 

[500]

More numbers:

13 F-15 deployed.
207 out of 226 planned flights executed.
19 sorties were cancelled by Red Flag staff for weather, none to technical issues.

 

[jhungary]

Hi Mastan, in reality the opposition will have support from other ground assets which might be able to detect F-35 .... I think in these exercise most of the time it is plane v/s plane .... Russia and China are working on radars able to detect stealth aircraft and have some success ...

So I agree that F-35 has significant edge but this edge is limited to some scenarios ...

Furthermore, F-35 needs to open his radar to detect other aircraft as range of passive sensors is limited ...

Furthermore, how can have such a huge benefit in WVR combat as stealth have little impact is WVR ...

Remember these type of results also depands on policy makers ... at this point of time with Trump they nee to show F-35 tremendous success therefore results like this are need of the day of the people who are testing this result ...

Actually, Red Flag is more sophicated than you thought, and the test scenario, usually played agaisnt the USAF aircraft, were deployed to the nearest reality as they can get, the only thing they don't do is to pull the trigger.

And no, it not always plane vs plane, red flag is a full spectrum exercise, you have all 4 branches (Coast Guard is not invited) of US Armed Force attending these exercise every year, and it simulate every type of situation ranging from Air/Ground, Air/Air and Air/Sea.