The enemy and Pakistan Army

[RazPaK]

Your Victorian English aside, was your father an Englishman, Joe?

"Social Standing"?

Khoda khair karay.

 

[vsdoc]

RazPak we will not go to fathers and mothers and sisters please sir.

Bad boy.

 

[Developereo]

And if you think the Indians are foolish to do something in a way Pakistan can catch then with the hand in the cookie jar, think again.

Isn't the whole premise that India would declare suspension of IWT and river closures as a retaliation for a terrorist attack? The Indian action would be open and pre-declared, so there is nothing for Pakistan to 'catch'.

Not necessarily accepted. An attack on Indian civilian centers is an escalation by itself & no country can allow the "enemy" to decide on the level of escalation allowed.

But that's exactly what happened on 9/11: it was an attack on American civilian centers. The American response was to go after militants, not go around bombing enemy cities at random.

A decent argument but still one that does not cut much ice. The Pakistani state is responsible for controlling its territory & any attacks directed from within its boundaries will be its responsibility to deal with & stop. the areas being spoken of are not the bad lands of tribal areas but Punjab & Pakistan administered Kashmir. The IWT exists between the Pakistani & Indian states, an abrogation is justifiable because of actions or inaction of the Pakistani state. If the people of Pakistan wish to see their state do more, they should act accordingly. After all Pakistan is a democracy, is it not? Let the people put pressure on the state to do more against the perpetrators of attacks against India. A precedence for such action already exists with villages close to the LoC in Pakistani administered Kashmir coming out on the streets protesting against any militant movement in their area since they believe that it would bring with it, Indian retaliation through shelling.

Ironically, this is the same argument used to justify 9/11.

 

[KS]

Isn't the whole premise that India would declare suspension of IWT and river closures as a retaliation for a terrorist attack? The Indian action would be open and pre-declared, so there is nothing for Pakistan to 'catch'.

Rivers wont be closed..they would be 'regulated'.

Again if you think that India would do things in a open-close method for Pakistan to present a credible case against it as you think, think again. There is a whole spectrum of grey between white and black.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Your Victorian English aside, was your father an Englishman, Joe?

"Social Standing"?

Khoda khair karay.

Just a sincere word in your ear.

Don't start something you can't finish.

 

[Juice]

It was India who escalated Siachen. Nothing happened. And that was when you were the blue eyed boy of the Yanks with the Soviet war and we were the basket cases with our famed hindu rate of growth. Now its not like that. The potential audience for a pakistani sob story is much limited now.

And if you think the Indians are foolish to do something in a way Pakistan can catch then with the hand in the cookie jar, think again.

The policy of shooting first and thinking later has been a patented Pakistani policy till now.

"blue-eyed boy," lol....haven't heard that in forever...you musta lived in the US for some time.

 

[Bang Galore]

Isn't the whole premise that India would declare suspension of IWT and river closures as a retaliation for a terrorist attack? The Indian action would be open and pre-declared, so there is nothing for Pakistan to 'catch'.

No declaration will happen but measures to tighten water control may proceed. Your concern should be whether it is just a "may" or is it a "will". Abrogation of IWT is not completely without justification anyway, After all it is a very generous treaty to Pakistan. You will know the reasons, we will know the reasons but no one will be announcing it as such.

Ironically, this is the same argument used to justify 9/11.

It worked with Spain, didn't with the U.S. Best to understand your opponent before starting something that you may not have the luxury of finishing.

 

[RazPaK]

Just a sincere word in your ear.

Don't start something you can't finish.

Suh, we in the madrassa is not as educated as you from the Mighty Royal Crown.


Please do pardon us.

 

[vsdoc]

"blue-eyed boy," lol....haven't heard that in forever...you musta lived in the US for some time.

We use it all the time man. Especially in corporate parlance.

Usually refers to the boss's suck-up.

 

[Rig Vedic]

If not, we are waiting. And watching.

For the holes in the stretched fabric to render and get bigger.

Till either the whole unravels.

Or there is a hole large enough for us to get through before you can close it off.

Once we are inside, within a major city of yours, there is no way you are going to go nuclear.

From there it is a honorable armistice.

And a special protectorate status.

As an independent sovereign nation.

No man, that is not the way it will work. Islamist identity politics is, over the long term, unsustainable, like Communism in East Germany.

But I don't like to talk in terms of anybody being defeated. The demise of Communism in East Germany was actually a victory for the East Germans. Falsehoods must eventually perish.

 

[KS]

"blue-eyed boy," lol....haven't heard that in forever...you musta lived in the US for some time.

It is not without a reason we are the largest english speaking populace in the world...

 

[RazPaK]

I think I have hurt Joe Shearer's feelings.

Out of anyone else, he should realize that a jest is a jest.


So I would like to apologize to Mr. Shearer if he found any of my posts obscenely offensive.


Sorry Sir.


Although you are an Indian, You are still my senior.

 

[Juice]

We use it all the time man. Especially in corporate parlance.

Usually refers to the boss's suck-up.

I'm well aware of the meaning...we used it in the Army all the time..."the Captain's blue-eyed boy"

 

[Bang Galore]

I think I have hurt Joe Shearer's feelings.

Out of anyone else, he should realize that a jest is a jest.


So I would like to apologize to Mr. Shearer if he found any of my posts obscenely offensive.


Sorry Sir.


Although you are an Indian, You are still my senior.

A-ha, we knew that "nice" guy will out..........

 

[RazPaK]

A-ha, we knew that "nice" guy will out..........

What can I do?

I am a tough guy raised with morals and have a larger heart than my neighbors to the East.