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The Emerging German-Russian Axis

Submitted by Charles Gave via Gavekal Dragonomics,

This weekend has seen the European Union do a stitch-up deal so that arch-federalist Jean-Claude Juncker became Commission president. To be honest, who gets to play eurocrat in chief is of no great interest to me, but the manner of the appointment tells us lots about the changing nature of power in Europe. Governments from Stockholm to Rome reportedly opposed Juncker, but ultimately none would defy Berlin. Also this weekend, it is worth noting some ostensibly bland comments by Vladimir Putin at a German-Russian official function: “We value the accumulated potential of Russian-German relations and the high level of trade and economic cooperation. Germany, one of the European Union leaders, is our most important partner in enhancing peace, global and regional security.”

I would contend that we are seeing a decisive shift in the political character of Eurasia. History tells us that long wars have tended to be fought between maritime empires and continental empires. Think of Athens vs. Sparta, Carthage vs. Rome or Britain vs. Napoleonic France. The last big fight was between the US and the Soviet Union ended in favor of the maritime empire. As a result, since 1989 we have lived in an order ultimately run by the US military. But after some unpleasantness playing the role of global policeman, that maritime empire is in retreat.

The consequence of this move toward isolation is that a bunch of ‘continental empires’ are starting to challenge the monopoly of “legal” international violence that the US has exercised for the last 25 years. The most obvious challengers can be seen in the shape of Sunni Muslims across the Middle East, or in East Asia where a more confident and assertive China is stating its case for preeminence. Such struggles have the potential to become major regional problems, but what worries me more is the emerging continental alliance between Russia and Germany. Preventing such a partnership has for centuries been an idée fixe for French diplomacy, and for good reason. A combination of German industrial might and Russian raw materials and military strength would instantly create a colossus. The Poles, who have been perennial victims of engagements between Germany and Russia, are already visibly panicking, as they should be.

Historically, Paris has tended to ally with the Russians, not because it liked them but to prevent Germany from doing the same. The problem is that France has nothing to offer Russia (save some nice holiday homes and mooring berths for tycoons on its Mediterranean coast) and is, in any case, more focused on perfecting its own political and economic suicide.

This leaves the UK as the only shield against an alliance in the east. But this weekend we saw a clear statement of where Berlin sees its interests. Soothing words of “don’t go” may have been offered to London after the Juncker vote, but the incident has confirmed that the landscape has shifted from a European Germany to a German Europe.

The UK now seems set on a path to leave the EU within four years. The chances of London achieving the kind of root-and-branch treaty change that would keep it in the EU must rank as being close to nil. And as Winston Churchill said: “England does not belong to Europe, it belongs to the seas.” As was the case in the mid-20th century, the UK is unlikely to join a continental empire as a junior member and, when decision time arrives, it will stay allied with the US-led maritime empire.


In the old system, Europe was a kind of protectorate of the US maritime empire, a set-up that worked reasonably well. The challenge to the status quo comes from the east where Vladimir Putin has the clear goal of creating a new Russian/German alliance whose fief will run through Eastern Europe. If he succeeds, this will be a major loss for the maritime empire, especially if the UK has removed itself as an EU player.

There will be major political repercussions in the US from such a political carve up. The question will not only be how did “we” come to lose Asia and the Middle East, but also “our” most reliable and pliable ally—Europe.

Taken from here.

[Thank you to Huaqiao2013 at Chinese Defence Forum for the original post]
 
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Ohh dear....

Whenever the world starts to realize that European establishment and American is on the same page...rifts start emerging.

Germany...England...France...America...Poland

Europeans really think we are monkeys?

You will see these rifts getting more media exposure.

Never trust them.
 
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Sorry, just no. Case in point Ukraine....
 
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I guess he thinks chancellor Merkels sanctions against russia are "love bites" ha ha ha

The question is .Can Germany go to war with Russia for the sake of USA and Ukraine. No. Already Putin has shown great restraint in the crisis that USA is provoking in Ukraine for the sake of the russian economy . Many German companies have panicked already with the actions of Merkel and the industrial lobby is dead set against sanctions or any ridiculous actions against Russia.

Almost, it seems that German and russian industrial lobbies are preventing sanctions and invasion of Ukraine by Russia respectively.
 
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The question is .Can Germany go to war with Russia for the sake of USA and Ukraine. No. Already Putin has shown great restraint in the crisis that USA is provoking in Ukraine for the sake of the russian economy . Many German companies have panicked already with the actions of Merkel and the industrial lobby is dead set against sanctions

Almost, it seems that German and russian industrial lobbies are preventing sanctions and invasion of Ukraine by Russia respectively.


Who talks about war? We live in the 21st century.
 
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Who talks about war? We live in the 21st century.

NATO and russian general staff. Both consider nuclear war as winnable.Except that NATO victory means survival of the elites and for russian general staff it means survival of 60% population via means of underground bunkers,civil defence and population dispersal from the cities to the villages and continued operation of underground facilities like Yamantau,Zhitkur etc.
 
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Germany and Russia lost huge amounts of territory following WW1, WW2, Cold War 1, all because of the US.They both hate the US. I suppose the enemy of my enemy is my friend holds true.
 
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Germany and Russia lost huge amounts of territory following WW1, WW2, Cold War 1, all because of the US.They both hate the US. I suppose the enemy of my enemy is my friend holds true.

Germany GAINED the east when the U.S.S.R. went down like a $2 whore. ALL because of us.:usflag:
 
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Germany and Russia lost huge amounts of territory following WW1, WW2, Cold War 1, all because of the US.They both hate the US. I suppose the enemy of my enemy is my friend holds true.

are you kidding? Germany does not hate US. USA is our closest ally.
 
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yes and because of that USA is one of top travel destnations, top trade partner and the Nr. 1 destination for exchange students. :D


Germans hate the US. Fact. That doesn't mean Germans can't enjoy American products and services. After all, the Fourth Reich won't be established until decades into the future :bounce: It'll take a while for the US to collapse militarily. This will of course happen from within.
 
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