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THE DEPLOYMENT OF THIS TANK ALONG PAKISTAN BORDER MIGHT BE SIGNAL THAT ‘COLD START’ IS ON: MAY GIVE

If wouldn't have been a wasteland if PA had captured it!
You mean your capture of frozen wasteland??

Do try to capture Skardu from it or at least bomb KKH from it.

Oh wait!! You can't do both.

:lol:
 
The Indian folks couldn't do it in the past 30 years. Now that the conjectures are increasingly going in Pak's favor how plausible is that???

Make it 40 years in advance from my side. A warmongering nation like India uses these tactics to keep its warmongering instincts alive. We would use our "put rats in limits" instincts to keep them in their borders. :)

If wouldn't have been a wasteland if PA had captured it!

Not really. It would remain same. Nothing is coming out of that land except bharati kids boosting on internet about it.

Doesn't hurt me really :lol:
 
You mean your capture of frozen wasteland??

Do try to capture Skardu from it or at least bomb KKH from it.

Oh wait!! You can't do both.

:lol:


How many Pakistanis killed for that frozen wasteland ? I am not counting the SSG but regulars.

Also, Its not good to show your yellow teeth over a issue where several of your troops martyred over the years.
 
How many Pakistanis killed for that frozen wasteland ? I am not counting the SSG but regulars.

Also, Its not good to show your yellow teeth over a issue where several of your troops martyred over the years.

Pakistanis who got killed were killed to save their land from a land grabber like India.

Even today you bharatis can't control your itch to occupy Pakistani land and curse yourself for not occupying areas like Dansum

One of the failures of Operation Meghdoot was that it should have taken control of the Dansum area, which has given Pakistan the tactical advantage of having three approaches to Siachen, while India has only one route.

http://www.hoonslegacy.com/siachen-glacier/

My soldiers didn't die for a frozen wasteland like someone else. They died defending against an aggressor.
 
he or she or whatever <<>> means conjectures are increasingly going in Pak's favor on PDF .

There's not even an ounce of substance in the article. That "Pak won't surrender" bit was the funniest.
 
I have already explained why it's in Pakistan favour

If you still want to come

A jao khushbu laga kay
 
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by Manas Sen Gupta

As an operational readiness, India might deploy the most modern of the Russian T-90 family of tanks in the Western Sector – the border along Pakistan – once it acquires them. The T-90 is India’s foremost MBT (main battle tank) and is renowned around the world for its superiority in battle conditions.

If India signs a deal, it will soon acquire the latest, most modernized version of the T-90 tanks – the T-90MS – from Russia. The deal will bring 464 of the machines, which have the capability to automatically turn towards the target once selected, for use by the Indian Army.

A report in the IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly says that the Indian Army plans to add more tank muscle along the Pakistan border and will, therefore, put the new tanks in the sector.

There are already around 900 T-90 Bhishma MBTs along the Pakistan border in Rajasthan and Punjab.
Though the acquisition of the T-90MS has been read as a measure to check a threat from China, there is an even bigger reason for the Army to deploy them in the Western Sector.

The deployment, once it happens, will help in the actual realisation of the Cold Start doctrine.

What Is The Cold Start Doctrine?
Before the December 2001 Parliament Attack, the Indian Army defensive strategy was called the Sundarji Doctrine, named after General Krishnaswamy Sundarji.

The doctrine – or defence strategy – involved a two-stage defensive system to be carried out by ‘holding corps’ and ‘strike corps’. The ‘holding corps’ would be pressed into service in case Pakistan attacked. Their job would to thwart the attack. The ‘strike corps’ would then launch an attack on Pakistan with an aim of totally crippling the country’s offensive and defensive capabilities.

The problem with the Sundarji Doctrine was that the ‘strike corps’ was located in Central India. In the aftermath of the Parliament Attack, India took an entire month to deploy its ‘strike corps’ along the border. The massive delay not only caused a loss of precious time but also allowed Pakistan to convince world powers to intervene and prevent an Indian attack.

Thus was shelved the Sundarji Doctrine and was born the Cold Start. This new doctrine involves using a combination of armored and air power to immediately attack Pakistan in case of an offensive by the latter and substantially deal a blow to its military before Islamabad approaches the world community.

The success of the Cold Start largely depends on the armored fighting vehicles and use of artillery because the aim is to achieve short missions quickly before the nuclear threshold is reached.

But the Cold Start is not an officially acknowledged doctrine. There are reports which claim that India is now working towards making the doctrine a reality.

In fact, on January 4 General Bipin Rawat became the first serving army commander to acknowledge the existence of the doctrine.

Speaking to India Today, the General said, “Cold Start doctrine exists for conventional military operations. Whether we have to conduct conventional operations for such strikes is a decision well-thought through, involving the government and the Cabinet Committee on Security.”

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According to a report, the Cold Start will soon be discussed at the highest level of the military leadership. Given that the Modi government is actually working towards strengthening of the armed forces, the possibility of adopting the doctrine is stronger than before.

That the Defense Ministry is working fast on acquiring new weapons for the armed forces – the BAE deal, the Apache assault helicopter deal, and a very probable T-90MS deal – point in the direction of Cold Start.

So Where Does The T-90MS Fit In This Plan?
The 464 T-90MS will cost around Rs.135 billion. The tank is one of the most advanced in the world.
In its review of the Tagil, as the T-90MS is called in Russia, Military Today describes it as having “a hunter-killer engagement capability”.

The tank has a thermal vision which enables the commander to select a target and then move on to the next one. The gun automatically moves in the direction of the selected target and the gunner has to only aim and fire all the while the commander is looking for the second target.

This saving of time in selection of targets gives the T-90MS an edge over others. The target acquisition system tracks selected targets automatically and the gun is around 20 per cent more accurate than the T-90 Bhishma.

http://topyaps.com/cold-start-and-russian-tanks


The title & premise of this thread is silly to say the least.

Where else will T 90 tanks be deployed ? They are of no use against Sri Lanka, Nepal, BD , Bhutan, Myanmar or China .

If they are meant for the western borders thats where they will be.
 
You mean your capture of frozen wasteland??

Do try to capture Skardu from it or at least bomb KKH from it.

Oh wait!! You can't do both.

:lol:

Indians dont know the difference between capture and re-capture, some idiots here think they captured Kargil and Siachan from Pakistan and it was Pakistani land.
 
What is Pakistan's offensive strategy to counter cold start? Defending against cold-start is there, but what is an equivalent strategy which takes war into enemy lines?

There will be few for sure, but is there anything public as Indian cold-start doctrine?
 
What is Pakistan's offensive strategy to counter cold start? Defending against cold-start is there, but what is an equivalent strategy which takes war into enemy lines?

There will be few for sure, but is there anything public as Indian cold-start doctrine?
Pakistan general has stated many times that he is ready to use nuclear weapons in case of a war.

Nothing is better than nuclear weapons, but it should always be used as a last resort
 
Why the hell we are still importing?
What happened to local production ...?

Having production line .

CHENNAI: August 23, 2012 00:00 IST
As one of the 41 Ordnance Factories in the country, the EFA started out as an adjunct of the Heavy Vehicle Factory which produces battle tanks for the Indian Army. The plant became an independent engine factory in 1995 and has since produced 8,331 engine variants for army, the Heavy Vehicles Factory and the Ordnance Factory, Medak, Andhra Pradesh.

The three main variants of diesel engines are the V 46-6 for use in the Ajeya (T-72), V92S2 that powers Bhishma tanks and the UTD-20 for Sarath infantry combat-cum-armoured personnel carrier. The engine variants also have multi-fuel options.

“We hope to double capacity to 750 engines annually by 2014,” said Saurabh Kumar, EFA General Manager.
 
Indians dont know the difference between capture and re-capture, some idiots here think they captured Kargil and Siachan from Pakistan and it was Pakistani land.

Kargil heights was once in Pakistani hand (pre-1971)

Siachen was just a glacier(nobody was claiming) till Pak allowed expeditions there.
 

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