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After five years and many twists and turns, Microsoft on Wednesday said that development of Windows Vista is complete.

Windows chief Jim Allchin said Microsoft signed off on the code less than an hour ago. "It's rock solid and we're ready to ship. This is a good day," Allchin said in a conference call.
 
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It is going to be a rock solid product. I have been a Microsoft Beta tester since windows 95 ( they don't send us toys an T-shirts like they used to!)

I am very impressed by the security implementation. Even RC1 is good. Y'all will like this one..much faster than XP for sure
 
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i have tested itt from bea 1, its stable also right from beta 1...unlike xp...and no doubtt the improved a lot on security......proven at black hat confrence...
 
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Linux is much better then windows, lets all break the monopoly of Microsoft


1. Security - Linux is Open Source Software, while Windows is not. The simplest benefits of Open Source Code to demonstrate are increased security, reliability and functionality; because users of Open Source are readily able to identify and correct problems with the programs and to submit their own enhancements for incorporation into the program. Closed Source systems enjoy none of those benefits.

2. Scalability - Systems implemented under Linux can be cloned limitless times without paying additional software licensing fees - With Windows, you pay for each installation/workstation/server/cpu.

3. Power - Linux is made with the Unix design philosophy, which dictates that system tools are small and highly specialized. The result is an incredibly powerful and reliable system, limited in capability only by the user's imagination and ability to integrate the Unix utilities. The Windows philosophy is to create unwieldy swiss army knives, limited in capability by how many features the user purchased on their particular knife. Diminished reliability is arguably a side effect of increased complexity. Thus with Windows, the case is often that you have tools that ALMOST do what you want them to, if they didn't crash.

4. Reliability - The architecture of Linux is superior to Windows because critical operation system functions are implemented in such a way that buggy programs can't cause the computer to become unstable and crash. In fairness, though not quite as robust as Linux, Windows 2000 and Windows XP are much improved over Windows 9x and Windows Millenium Edition.

5. Advanced Capabilities - In addition to the system utility tools from the Unix world, Linux usually comes with the Apache Webserver, an email server, router/firewall capabilities and SQL databases. These are extras costing up to thousands of dollars on Windows. There IS free software to do these jobs on Windows, but it has mostly been adapted from Linux and loses some functionality when ported to Windows.

6. Compatibility - Linux is POSIX Compliant which means that applications developed for Linux can be operated on other POSIX compliant Unix derivatives with a minimum of reworking.

7. Support - For persons not familiar with the Open Source Community, the quality of free technical support on the internet may come as a shock. Sometimes knowing enough to ask the right questions can be a problem, but overall the best and the brightest are there to assist you at no charge when you run into problems that can't be solved by reading the documentation included with Linux. With Windows or other commercial software, your manufacturer support is only free for a limited time and is often of little value anyways.

8. Not Single Source Software - Linux is distributed by several companies, giving consumers to pick and choose the flavor that best suits their needs. Windows is the product of a single company, Microsoft Corporation. Windows users have no choice but to accept what Microsoft offers.

9. Rate of Advancement - Linux has and will continue to advance at a rate impossible for a close development project such as Microsoft Windows to sustain. A few factors driving this rate of progress are (in no particular order): the number of active developers; quantity and quality of feedback from the field; short development cycle from development team to the end user; absence of corporate "meddling" in the design process; independently developed open source subsystems frequently incorporated into Linux, giving it quantum advances in a short time.

10. Cost - That Linux is FREE deserves honorable mention and a bit of explanation. You can package and sell Linux for money. The competing Linux distributions all provide slightly different feature sets beyond the core system, including canned e-commerce solutions, printed manuals and phone support options. There is no rule that says you can't make money distributing Linux. For those who choose to download and install free distributions from the Internet, Linux is truely free. Some cynics have proclaimed, "Sure Linux is free now, but the Linux People will start charging for it once it catches on!". That statment is completely false. No single person or organization controls Linux, so that will never happen. In the unlikely case that Linus Torvalds (the author of Linux) adds some proprietary code and proclaims that all future releases will be $99.99USD, someone will simply take the latest "free" version and possibly rename it to Spin-UX. Then all the volunteer developers and contributors will jump on that bandwagon. Spin-UX will diverge from its Linux roots, over time becoming better supported and more advanced, rendering its ancestor obsolete, except possibly for purposes specifically addressed by that hypothetical proprietary added code. Furthermore Linux is covered by the Gnu Public License, stating that it and all derivative works must be distributed with the source code. This makes it extremely unlikely that anyone will wield monopolistic power in the Linux Sector.


To conclude this hopefully persuasive bit of Linux Advocacy, it must be stated that an Operating System without suitable Applications is of little use. There are free web browsers and email clients for Linux, as well as the free Star Office product from Sun Microsystems. Star Office includes the traditional productivity applications: Word Processing, Spreadsheet and Database. Corel Office is also available for Linux at little or no charge
 
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I am using Windows XP Media Center Edition, so it wouldn't be an ideal choice for me to go for this, however, i really like the layout and theme it provides, but then i can use Style XP, to counter with that.
 
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webbi.....vista contains a lot of really cool stuff........and it cannot be inttegrated into windows xp......mayybe some of them will be in windows xp sp-3 edition due in 2007
 
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Rahman,

In our location where we work we manage about 360+ windows servers, about 150~ Linux server, along with Sun Solaris, True Blue Unix, VMS etc. I would have to disagree with you on the price of Linux. While the "buy for home Linux is dirt cheap", RedHat DOES charge you for enterprise deployment - oddly enough, as much as Microsoft does!

Linux's open source is it's biggest strength AND weakness. Our guys here constantly applying patches, and security updates. The Linux servers here have been infected just like any other system.

I think the myth is larger than life in most cases. Plus it's "cool" to say " I don't run Windows - it's Redhat for me!".

When we ran benchmarks, a Windows 2003 server kept up with I/O as well as the Linux boxes, flat beating Linux on some applications.

Finally, the only servers that need a daily re-boot, are our Redhat proxy servers!!!!
 
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webbi.....vista contains a lot of really cool stuff........and it cannot be inttegrated into windows xp......mayybe some of them will be in windows xp sp-3 edition due in 2007

Dont even try running Vista if you don't have a Pentium 4 or better with a gig of memory and broadband for ISP. You could be disappointed. Also we found out a thing or two about Vista activation. Some of my buddies ( not in the IT industry) are disappointed they now have to buy the CD itself!!!!
 
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Why do I have a feeling that it will be another Windows 98.

Windows 98 was a 16-bit OS with 32-bit dlls and APIs. Vista is all 32 or 64 bit depending on the version. And yes it is STILL POSIX compliant!! ( Why I don't know...)
 
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TexasJohn,
I had read that Vista runs on only 64-bit machines.Does that mean only the pentium-D and core2-duo systems or are the Pentium 4 HT systems with Intel EM64T also supported??
 
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TexasJohn,
I had read that Vista runs on only 64-bit machines.Does that mean only the pentium-D and core2-duo systems or are the Pentium 4 HT systems with Intel EM64T also supported??

I have both 32 and 64-bit versions. I had poor luck slapping the 64-bit versions on the dual core box and the Xeon box ( both systems are 64 bit). It may be because I did not have 64-bit drivers for video etc. But yes, there is a 32-bit version for the P4.

Thank God, cause my cheapskate wife won't let me spend any more money!!!
 
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But i'm not sure whether an Intel P4 HT with EM64T is 64 bit or 32 bit!!!
 
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Scalability and performance with Intel® EM64TΦ
Intel® Extended Memory 64 TechnologyΦ (Intel® EM64T) can improve performance by allowing the system to address more than 4 GB of both virtual and physical memory. Intel EM64T also provides support for 64 bit computing to help handle the applications of tomorrow.

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium4/
 
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Vista Sucks as of now.
Let there be Direct X 10, else the full AERO theme wont even perform.
Plus 2 gig of mem is a must for workholics like me.

I'd rather do the same job in XP, but ah these direct x 10 games willtempt me to go for a dx10 card and mihgt be vista eventually.
 
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