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I think the Su35S with its IRBIS radar that can detect targets at 400 km out can blow this junk-20 out of the sky with ease.And where do you pull those figures from? Your rear end? What makes you think that the J-20 would be able to detect the pak-fa at those distances? Even if I play along with your moronic theory, the J-20 would still have to achieve a lock, this would be difficult merely by the fact that the pak-fa is designed to deny enemy aircraft the chance to achieve one. Furthermore, you would have to contend with the pak-fas Electronics warfare (EW) suit. Good luck trying to achieve a lock on a radar that changes frequencies many times per second. Or trying to overcome a internal EW suit that can employ a number of jamming techniques. Data-linking with dedicated EW aircraft will make things that more difficult. If by a miracle the J-20 can somehow defy the odds, it will be within firing range. And again reliability comes into play, how reliable is the PL-12? Just because one or several would be launched, it does not mean that any would hit the target because aircraft come with radar warning receivers and counter measures. This is if the pilot is any good, if a J-20 pilot launches a missile at too far of a range or at an unfavorable vector in relation to the enemy aircraft than that missile will simply fall out of the sky.
I think the Su35S with its IRBIS radar that can detect targets at 400 km out can blow this junk-20 out of the sky with ease.
It is funny that you would use the 'eye balls' analogy. It is quite appropriate and actually debunk your argument.there are a man and a lady walk together.
you are not the family doctor of them(no personal info like cm,lb,etc,,), can you tell who is taller, who is heavier and who has more power? and just by your eye balls?
Benefield Anechoic Facility (BAF) is an anechoic chamber located at the southwest side of the Edwards Air Force Base main base. It is currently the world's largest anechoic chamber.
BAF is an awesome facility. We are not going to reveal what we know of radar behaviors on an F-22 or F-35, but at least we let the public know our yardsticks.... the Air Force's latest fighter jet was recently tricked into thinking it was in the heat of high-tech combat.
The F-16 Falcon sat motionless on a huge turntable as computer technicians bombarded it with electronic signals mimicking enemy missiles and radar stations, simulating a flight over hostile territory.
...thousands of small blue spikes protruding from nearly every square foot of its walls, floor and ceiling.
...the pyramid-like spikes absorb stray radar signals that bounce off aircraft during tests of electronic warfare devices, which allow military jets to detect, evade and jam enemy radar and missiles.
Air Force officials recently allowed a Times reporter and photographer to tour the chamber, but only on a day when no aircraft were in it.
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Anyone that that proclaims things such as the pak-fa has same round and tall fuselage as the SU-30 is an imbecile and should be treated as such.
For one, the two fuselages share little to no similarities, and two, what stealth principle does the fuselage violate? What you think is irrelevant and if Im quite frank, retarded.
Did you still not realize your fault and backwards logic? If the pak-fas (single) IRST is not stealthy than the J-20s (4 large) under-wing pods should be disatererous, after all there are four of them, they are many times larger than an IRST, they a spherical/cylindrical and they go against your continuous curvature principle, but of course the J-20 is excused from basic physics.
Further, the pak-fa as you point out has an uneven fuselage yet why is this important? Perhaps because it can present a corner reflector, be it small. Yet what about the J-20s tail fins? If the pak-fas uneven fuselage is a corner reflector than the J-20s tail fins are equally corner reflectors, and if we are fair they are worse because not only do you get a corner reflector from the side but from underneath the aircraft.
Give it a rest with the might drag-queen chest thumping and call it the J-20.
No because your post and diagrams are imaginary and have little scientific backing. If seen children's books with more scientific explanations
No, I did not even implied so.Your points being:
1. Everyone from China and one Kopp are all clueless what stealth is and,
Did not implied that either. I know you MUST try to twist my words, but that is not going to work. I guess the flow: modeling/prediction and measurement, is too difficult for you to grasp.2. You and the US radar community alone have that knowledge but since it's classified and also because we from China use our own invented physics, therefor you won't really tell us anything to back up your claims (because it's classified and we are too dumb too irrational to understand it anyway).
Is this what you are trying to say?
Your points being:
1. Everyone from China and one Kopp are all clueless what stealth is and,
2. You and the US radar community alone have that knowledge but since it's classified and also because we from China use our own invented physics, therefor you won't really tell us anything to back up your claims (because it's classified and we are too dumb too irrational to understand it anyway).
Is this what you are trying to say?
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No.. what he is trying to say is that Engineering is a wonderful science.
Do you even understand what this is all about?
No, I did not even implied so.
Did not implied that either. I know you MUST try to twist my words, but that is not going to work. I guess the flow: modeling/prediction and measurement, is too difficult for you to grasp.
Let me post one of my favor 5G fighter picture. it can target J20 as well as F22.
The PAK FA is a joke.
LEVCONS.
Framed canopy.
Fully exposed compressor face.
Gaps around the inlets.
Seams, gaps, protrusions, changes in surface material, sudden changes in shape, and surface
discontinuities all over the lower fuselage.
Conventional nozzles.
Really? The J-20 has no cylindrical shaping? Than what is the J-20s chin? Or those under wing actuators? Both the Chin and actuators follow the countours of a perfect circle and both are long so they can be called cylindrical, as can the J-20 nozzles and aft fuselage.
Copp does not lie, per se, he just twists the truth and comes to premature conclusions. Reading much of his work especially the F-35, SU-35 comparison I can say that he merely guesses on much of his claims, such as him claiming the R-77 to be superior than the AIM-7 based on the fact that it has a larger explosive chare and better maneuverability. He said nothing about the seekers, their history of reliability, or counter measures; instead he made a proclemation based on rudimentary evidence.
I also provide evidence, as do others, you just conveniently disregard it. Nothing is good enough for you. Only Martian and Kopp are right.
Looks like the aviation expert could not answer your question.
As if any of the jokers here will understand half of that. The only thing these juveniles know is: The J-20 mighty-dragon is sleek and sexy, it is obvious it has been designed with super computers, its black RAM is super advanced and its DSI technology is devastating. The Canards are also superior to anything the F-22 and pak-fa have.
So where are your citations? You made a number of fantastic claims in the past yet failed to support them with any citations.
I said: "credible link" that martin post. Dont be too idiot.Really Martian credible? This is a guy who believes that cold canopies are treated with RAM.