THE ARABS AND THEIR STORIES......

[Aramagedon]

پارسی گو گرچه تازی خوشتر است — عشق را خود صد زبان دیگر است

Say all in Persian even if Arabic is better — Love will find its way through all languages on its own. - Maualana Rumi

BS.


He says use Persian even if you think Taazi (Arabic) is better.

پارسی گو say Persian
گرچه تازی خوشتر است Even if you think taazi (arabic) is better.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

BS.


He says say Persian even if u think Arabic is better.

Thanks for translating this properly, exactly what I was referring to.

There is even interpretations that Persian is the language of hellfire lol, Turks are Yagog and Magog etc and apparently Adam spoke Arabic lol

What I find hilarious the most staunch revisionists of Hadith like the salafist islamqa type websites will claim “arabic is the language of paradise” there revisionism doesn’t touch the promotion of Arab supremacy lol

There is a reason peotry in Persian was perferred over Arabic, why Arabic was mainly a language of religious science.

Anyway won’t go into this any longer but the questions remains why are these so obsessed with DNA.

 

[Aramagedon]

Thanks for translating this properly, exactly what I was referring to.

There is even interpretations that Persian is the language of hellfire lol, Turks are Yagog and Magog etc and apparently Adam spoke Arabic lol

What I find hilarious the most staunch revisionists of Hadith like the salafist islamqa type websites will claim “arabic is the language of paradise” there revisionism doesn’t touch the promotion of Arab supremacy lol

There is a reason peotry in Persian was perferred over Arabic, why Arabic was mainly a language of religious science.

Anyway won’t go into this any longer but the questions remains why are these so obsessed with DNA.

If Arabic is language of paradise so are Persian and Aramic because they were languages of their religions at thier time!

Btw paradise (ferdoos) in Quran is borrowed from “pardis” in Persian which means heaven in afterlife.

Din (religion) in arabic is borrowed from din (religion) in Persia, and many more....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Persian_origin

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

If Arabic is language of paradise so are Persian and Aramic because they were languages of their religions at thier time!

Btw paradise (ferdoos) in Quran is borrowed from “pardis” in Persian which means heaven in afterlife.

Din (religion) in arabic is borrowed from din (religion) in Persia, and many more....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Persian_origin

If paradise has a language then your god is not universal.

You should tell Saif the borrowed words not me, since it is Persians and Arabs that claim hegemony of the otherside.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You should learn Arabic and give up speaking Urdu, after all it is “so much better” and your religion is not universal as you claim. Since the poor Pakistani farmer will not understand nor ever speak the “miracle” language. I find Persian and Spanish to sound beautiful but I don’t claim it is gods gift.

Why should we speak Arabic? We have no such goal. Your reference to Pakistanis is offensive. Don't talk down to us.

Exactly this type of Islam, Arabism that Arabs have managed to sell south Asians it goes even further then this but language is only the surface.

Wrong. Allama Iqbal spoke out very strongly against Arab imperialism. Don't speak about us Pakistanis. We know our religion and our culture.

BS.


He says use Persian even if you think Taazi (Arabic) is better.

پارسی گو say Persian
گرچه تازی خوشتر است Even if you think taazi (arabic) is better.

I am not a native Farsi speaker, but I found this translation on a Farsi poetry website. The translation is minutely different, but the main point is the same.

You don't have to lose your culture and identity to become a Muslim/ Ashiq (lover) of Allah swt.

Thanks for translating this properly, exactly what I was referring to.

There is even interpretations that Persian is the language of hellfire lol, Turks are Yagog and Magog etc and apparently Adam spoke Arabic lol

What I find hilarious the most staunch revisionists of Hadith like the salafist islamqa type websites will claim “arabic is the language of paradise” there revisionism doesn’t touch the promotion of Arab supremacy lol

There is a reason peotry in Persian was perferred over Arabic, why Arabic was mainly a language of religious science.

Many problems here with your statements. Quranic Arabic may be the language of Jannat, sure. I fail to see how that is a problem. Most Arabs don't even speak it anymore.

I am not aware of any hadith against Persians or Turks, actually Prophet Muhammad saws praised them. Salman al Farisi's people would surpass Arabs in religious knowledge (ilm) and using the Persian defenses for the khandaq. He praised Hazrat Bilal Habashi and the Najash (King) of Habasha. He spoke fondly of the army of Muhammad el Fateh of the Ottoman dynasty saying they are the best army with the best leaders. He is the one who said he felt a cool breeze from across the water (in the direction of Sindh.) He told us about the Khorasaan army (Afg/Pak) who will aid the Mahdi. He praised the patience of Syria and Yemen, and stayed silent about Najd (Saudi.)

Prophet Muhammad saws was a man and leader of the world, not just Arabs. He was Rahmat al alameen.

 

[Aramagedon]

If paradise has a language then your god is not universal.

You should tell Saif the borrowed words not me, since it is Persians and Arabs that claim hegemony of the otherside.

No one talked about hegemony.

Furthermore that hadith that arabic is language of heaven and other languages are languages of hell is a hoax.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Anyway won’t go into this any longer but the questions remains why are these so obsessed with DNA.

That is jahiliyyah. Better not to even pay some of these Arab supremacists any attention. They are following the sunnah of Abu Lahab and Abu Jahal, not of Sayyidina Muhammad saws.

Not all Arabs are like this, actually most are decent people. However, Salafism and Racial language have brainwashed and tainted many of them. This is why they are suffering the calamities and wrath of Allah swt.

We should pray for all Muslims, there is no difference between Arab and Non-Arab in the sight of Allah swt.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

No one talked about hegemony.

Furthermore that hadith that arabic is language of heaven and other languages are languages of hell is a hoax.

You know what I mean, it is only Arabs and some Persians who claim this, based on unreliable interpretations by any standard.

You need to make your minds up, will it be Arabic or Persian? You can’t have both.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

No one talked about hegemony.

Furthermore that hadith that arabic is language of heaven and other languages are languages of hell is a hoax.

I just looked up that hadith, and Sunni/Salafi scholars have stated that it is fabricated. You are right.

https://islamqa.info/en/83262

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

I just looked up that hadith, and Sunni/Salafi scholars have stated that it is fabricated. You are right.

Not only that all which are related to paradise having a language, just you wish to pick and choose which ones you follow.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds. It is not known what language the people will speak on that Day, or in what language they will hear the words of the Lord, may He be exalted, because Allaah has not told us anything about that, nor has His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Ibn Taymiyyah, Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (4/299)

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Why should we speak Arabic? We have no such goal. Your reference to Pakistanis is offensive. Don't talk down to us.

I didn’t, your the one who claimed it is a better language then Urdu, so why wait till paradise to speak it?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I didn’t, your the one who claimed it is a better language then Urdu, so why wait till paradise to speak it?

I didn't claim such a thing.

@Fenasi Kerim Out of curiosity, do you consider yourself a Muslim? If so, what sect do you follow?

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds. It is not known what language the people will speak on that Day, or in what language they will hear the words of the Lord, may He be exalted, because Allaah has not told us anything about that, nor has His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Ibn Taymiyyah, Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (4/299)

So you came to the conclusion I mentioned long ago, I don’t know what’s worse refuting yourself or quoting ib
taymiyyah.

I didn't claim such a thing.

You said Arabic is the language of heaven why ain’t you adopting the better language?

Or did you change you change mind now.

I didn't claim such a thing.

@Fenasi Kerim Out of curiosity, do you consider yourself a Muslim? If so, what sect do you follow?

None of your business, you really want to go personal?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

None of your business, you really want to go personal?

What’s with the aggression? Please relax.