The Arab Superiority Complex

[Abu Dhabi]

yeah. i am lying, we are all lying.

you are not a liar and you are not intentionally lying. You are emotional like any human and you HATE injustices and when you see it you tend to over react and just hate the whole lot instead of logically dealing with every situation separately.

 

[Goenitz]

some racists? its the majority of gulf arabs. every shopkeeper i speak to says the same thing, even though they are also muslims. the way these gulf arabs kids behave with them shows everything. the way they treat their maids, astagfirullah

Social/economic disparity even exist here and we mistreat people too. Arabs may be harsher than us. But I don't think there is discrimination. Such as we do against Pak Christians. You are at Bahrain, you better know the reality, but generally don't fall for western propaganda that Arbas are racist.

Everyone is racist at some level. Like Arain to Sheikhs. Pathans to Punjabi and vice versa. Arabs mistreat others bcz, the effected ones,do not know their rights. Some law agencies bias can be another reason. But tell me where it isn't. In Pakistan police also is influence by baradari .

I hope with more information and education the new generation of arabs will be better. And just learn arabic. It automatically connects you with them. And then knowing each other removes doubts and misconceptions. How do you feel, an English knowing Urdu and singing your favt songs, and praising Imran Khan?

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

you are not a liar and you are not intentionally lying. You are emotional like any human and you HATE injustices and when you see it you tend to over react and just hate the whole lot instead of logically dealing with every situation separately.

dude, i am not overreacting. go ask shopkeepers, maids, street sweepers, bus drivers, etc and see what they say.

 

[Abu Dhabi]

dude, i am not overreacting. go ask shopkeepers, maids, street sweepers, bus drivers, etc and see what they say.

okay bro okay , have it your way ....

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Social/economic disparity even exist here and we mistreat people too. Arabs may be harsher than us. But I don't think there is discrimination. Such as we do against Pak Christians. You are at Bahrain, you better know the reality, but generally don't fall for western propaganda that Arbas are racist.

Everyone is racist at some level. Like Arain to Sheikhs. Pathans to Punjabi and vice versa. Arabs mistreat others bcz, the effected ones,do not know their rights. Some law agencies bias can be another reason. But tell me where it isn't. In Pakistan police also is influence by baradari .

I hope with more information and education the new generation of arabs will be better. And just learn arabic. It automatically connects you with them. And then knowing each other removes doubts and misconceptions. How do you feel, an English knowing Urdu and singing your favt songs, and praising Imran Khan?

i am not denying racism in Pakistan. its there. but its mainly class based. in Gulf countries its far worse, and its ethnicity based, not class based necessarily.

 

[Trango Towers]

why do you pakistanis keep posting threads of supposed Pakistani Inferority or superiority over other races .

you smack of a race at odds about your worth in this world.

stop. comparing stop.yearning to belong and just be yourselves South Asian Pakistanis.

your claim.to be paitrotic but harbour deep.rooted insecurity .

you will.never see other races,open threads like
we are not South Asian we are linkage to middle east or central.asia .

we are not repulsive looking and deceitful
etc.

good and bad in every race

21st century get rid of your medieval mindset be proud

May Allah bless you. I was just about to post the same exact thing.

Racists and assholes are found in every single country. Making a big deal like this says a lot about the person. Just be proud of yourself, be confident , educate yourself , love your family and IGNORE the racists anywhere in the world. Otherwise you give off a vibe of being a puny person with severe inferiority complex

This is very very true. Racist ignorant and arrogant people are everywhere. I am

there you go again.

india has some sick medevil.backward scary people. it's,a,vast continents with remote tribes and some isolated traditions..
mass poverty and sickening corruption..

but you get this every where bar

of western Europe......

Africa,
mid east
South America
Asia all.these races have weird and wonderful.ancient tribes

amazon forest
African
even some in Asia

let's not tarnish this as the normal .

So fix it as you expect Pakistsn to be perfect. Show us the example. All you do is talk.

 

[Goenitz]

dude, i am not overreacting. go ask shopkeepers, maids, street sweepers, bus drivers, etc and see what they say.

I am sure they are mistreated. But both by their Kafeel and contractors/handlers who are normally of the same origins.
But outside Kafeel arbas, the rest of them may be better. Bad Kafeels even mistreat their own kin for profit (banya mentality).

Also, you know our people, especially labour class. We don't work hard but need more and complain more. The amount we spend in tea breaks and in others, during office hours is just nauseating. But I am not doubting your first hand experience that yes, Asian non-arabs are mistreated badly.

 

[T-SaGe]

This is more common in introverted societies, which have weakened social ties with the outside or have historically been isolated. The individual develops the instinct to superiority complex of their race if unable to bring out anything else. One typical model of them is no-life persons who falsifying pieces of information and documents on rivalry nation(in their minds) at open source encyclopedic content providers such Wikipedia, or social media environment all day long.

Such complexes necessarily weaken if the person has become part of the rest of the world with their life and social environment. I have a lot of Arab friends, I certainly did not see racism in them or the superiority complex. This is an example from my social life, other people may have other experiences. Inshallah one day we can reach a culture where we can evaluate people only with their unique personalities, regardless of their race.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

But outside Kafeel arbas, the rest of them may be better.

just come to the Gulf and see.

 

[Goenitz]

just come to the Gulf and see.

My experience is of North Africans Arbas, so they were not bad. Good people, with aggressive tones always, but nice people. I spend 4 years in Italy so I saw many Moroccans, Tunisians, Lebanese, etc In UK I meet Arabs who are born and raise here, nice people. Then there was a Mekkan Arab, whose brother in Law was a Pakistani, nice fellow.
Now, we have Turkish friends, with German husband, working in a UAE uni. She says, yes, we shd always nod to Arab staff. The reason is that UAE positions are in high demand. Even in Italy, Ferrari exploit trainees as they know they can pay less, as they have a lot of applicants. So exploitation is there when there is a high demand.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Let's call it what it is. We are a crazy nation. We allowed Salafism to spread through our nation. Through GCC petrodollars our children are taught a very rigid Islam. Heck till this day UAE and KSA throw around hefty amounts of money and brainwash our children. An alien concept in our part of the world. We are not Salafists. Traditionally our region has known Sufi Islam.

Its to do with this strong association with the concept of Ummah within Pakistanis, due to our upbringing and our education system, our goodwill, which is misunderstood as "sense of inferiority" among the Arabs. Modern Arabs are screwed up bunch with their lands trampled and taken the brunt of geopolitics, a lot of infighting among them, resulted in complete alienation from the concept of Ummah. Bottom-line is, we have hold on to it, they dont have any memory or association with it.

While I am not expecting any change in Arabs, as they have gone past the stage where they can auto-correct themselves, I do strong believe that state of Pakistan needs to do some subtle changes in its education system. Islamic history needs to be taught exactly as it happened without any bias, so students while appreciating the concept of Ummah, are also pragmatic on how we can go about it, considering all the ground realities in greater middle east/Persia.

Lastly, we need to make our children understand, that while it is a undisputed fact the Islam rise from Arab world, it is also undisputed fact that Arab were the worst of mankind, hence the reason for Prophet (PBUH) to be send among them. All prophets came to those who needed the most guidance.

 

[peagle]

Ohh... I think those were arab, speaking hindi song. so they butchered it..

It depends. Some people if given power, they take it as responsibility. So they are humble, yet governing in nature, and guide/steer your decisions of life.

But sometime, when some people get power, they become selfish and think as it is their God given right. They exploit it.

There are a lot of examples in marriages for both. When a woman submit, then the husband becomes soft and caring, while remaining incharge of affairs. In the second case, the man is more abusive when his wife is submissive, so only a tight 'hand' can bring some sense in him.

If BJP is supportive, then it is different. However, Kaniyah can break some members from Natish in future to CPI?
Anyway, I think he is wise enough. He can calculate what is better.

I think you may have misunderstood me.
I agreed with you, all I said was we cannot use that as an excuse to justify these actions. Because an argument used at the wrong time amounts to justification, that takes away the responsibility from the people who do such evil things.

 

[Trango Towers]

okay bro okay , have it your way ....

Brother you MashAllah are a very good and decent brother. Wish more arabs and rest of us are like you. Big hug

 

[jamahir]

Goenitz, I didn't get notification for your quoting of me. Just chanced upon your post.

However, Kaniyah can break some members from Natish in future to CPI?

Yes, that will be very good.

Anyway, I think he is wise enough. He can calculate what is better.

Correct.

 

[Goenitz]

I think you may have misunderstood me.
I agreed with you, all I said was we cannot use that as an excuse to justify these actions. Because an argument used at the wrong time amounts to justification, that takes away the responsibility from the people who do such evil things.

Ok.. may be I did.
Actually I was adding that we should not depend upon people or test them, to act good. Our mentality to submit to power is why we sometimes even don't argue with goras.

In fact, I was blaming ourselves, rather Arabs, the way they treat us. I know that you are saying that some how my comment suggest that we may tolerate it, just bcz of our nature. I was saying that we need to change our behaviour and oppose such mistreatment, but yes, while living there we cannot revolt.

Overall, we cultivate a girl into a 'girl', by instructing her, how to walk in a certain way, speak softly, covering head, etc. You may raise a girl with kung-fu training, or playing with snakes, and she gets stronger than men.

So our culture to submit to power is our vulnerability. This submissive behaviour put us on the mercy of the 'figurehead'. Now, that authority can be an Arab, husband, SHO etc.. so we need to look at our upbringing style.

Edit: Lastly, yes, it doesn't take away the responsibility from Arabs. They are to blame if they do bad, mistreat people, snatch basic rights, whther Iblees/own consciousness/opportunity etc, convincing them to do so

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Girlfriends or guillotines.
Mothers or monsters.
Lionesses or lovers.
What you get is how you treat them"