TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

[Foinikas]

Got my *** beat with broken bones after 9/11. A bunch of high school white kids attacked me on my way home. A bus driver saved my life and called an ambulance.

My parents tried to file a police report, but nothing came of it, from what I can recall.

They mistook Pakistani for Arab. I remember even Sikhs were attacked back then.

 

[That Guy]

They mistook Pakistani for Arab. I remember even Sikhs were attacked back then.

It was a terrible time to be brown skinned.

My father and brothers cut off their beards after 9/11 to avoid harassment.

 

[LegionnairE]

Don't do that.

We both know you're now using logical fallacies to try and justify your own comment and malign me.

Stop it.

You're trying to defame me by taking what I said and trying to make it sound the same as committig physical violence against someone.

As if I'm a proponent of violence or that I'm a violent person.

My Free speech is not in competition with your right not to be assaulted.

"If you look closely, you will see that the inlet is in trapezoid shape, meaning the opposide sides are not parallel to each other, unlike the paralleogram type air intakes which you see in most 4.5 Gen fighters, including the reduced RCS ones and Su-57. Also, it is highly blended with the Wing Shoulder. If somebody has some actual design knowldge of Stealth design, they'll know that parallel sides , bulges, sharp angles are one of the highest source of RCS and that's why in Stealth design, they should be avoided. That's the reason, F-22 has trapezoidal wings so that two sides of the wings are not parallel, slightly angled tailplanes (in Trapezoidal shape as well) so that tailplanes are not parallel to each other and zagged design at the end of the singtips to reduce sharp corners and angles. TAI literally using the copy-book design which can lead to lower RCS in different frequencies (S Band, X Band, C Band and L Band) like F-22, and unlike Su-57 design which are mainly for X- Band Radar, mainly used in Fighter aircrafts."

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While the aircraft's aerodynamically stealth characteristics have taken a lot from the F-22, which has proven itself in this field, on the avionics side, it seems to be highly influenced by both the Russian school and the JSF's sensor fusion.

I'm just curious if the slightly angled down wings like on F22 were considered

 

[That Guy]

You're trying to defame me by taking what I said and trying to make it sound the same as committig physical violence against someone.

As if I'm a proponent of violence or that I'm a violent person.

My Free speech is not in competition with your right not to be assaulted.

I am absolutely not doing such a thing, and anyone with a brain can see that.

I never accused or even suggested you're an advocate of violence.

I never attacked your free speech, you got offended by a comment I made. YOU replied to ME.

Also, this is an internet forum. Free speech only applies to government, not private individual's, private entities, nor private corporations.

For example, you cannot enter my hope and call me all sorts of slurs without being kicked out. That is not an attack on your free speech, it is the consequences of your malevolent actions.

 

[merzifonlu]

No Autolader ? strange.

Our tank crew simply said "Leopard-2's but domestic" when the Altay was being designed. Because they were all Leo-2 fans. That's why the first old Altay, designed according to the German power pack, does not have an autoloader.

Then came the Syrian operations, the German power pack embargo, and the Ukraine-Russia war. Lessons were learned from each of them. For example, it turned out in Syria that Leo-2s are not miraculous devices.

As a result, most probably the new Altay will have an autoloader. There will also be AKKOR active protection system and drone support, etc etc.

 

[Oublious]

TFX is a melting pot of F22 and F35, with older engines (and far from having a radar or a IR system). Nothing special, nothing original.
Where is the superiority when you are only able to copy and paste ?

Same with your attack helo and its gun.

Same with your next MBT which is a copy of K2, itself a copy of Leclerc.

Nothing new under the turkish sun. Just harsh copy.

lol

france next gen fighter project is copy of temptest of uk..

temptest

copycat france...

 

[Foinikas]

copycat france...

Yeah,you shouldn't be saying that when your TFX looks like someone took a photo of F-22 and F-35 and combined them.

 

[LegionnairE]

I am absolutely not doing such a thing, and anyone with a brain can see that.

I never accused or even suggested you're an advocate of violence.

I never attacked your free speech, you got offended by a comment I made. YOU replied to ME.

Also, this is an internet forum. Free speech only applies to government, not private individual's, private entities, nor private corporations.

You referred to me, without directly naming me as someone who justifies racism.

Free speech is a principle. One of the core principles of Democracy. The principle doesn't change whether you're on the internet or out in the street.

If you're a civilized person you will respect others rights to express themselves. If you want to silence someone, infinite number of justifications can be found.

Our tank crew simply said "Leopard-2's but domestic" when the Altay was being designed. Because they were all Leo-2 fans. That's why the first old Altay, designed according to the German power pack, does not have an autoloader.

Then came the Syrian operations, the German power pack embargo, and the Ukraine-Russia war. Lessons were learned from each of them. For example, it turned out in Syria that Leo-2s are not miraculous devices.

As a result, most probably the new Altay will have an autoloader. There will also be AKKOR active protection system and drone support, etc etc.

I am %90 sure that the original 4 man crew Altay will be cancelled

We'll be redesigning the tank because it got old before BMC was able to produce it. This is what happens when you employ incompetent shits for political reasons.

Yeah,you shouldn't be saying that when your TFX looks like someone took a photo of F-22 and F-35 and combined them.

French projects are irrelevant to this thread, just ignore him.

 

[That Guy]

You referred to me, without directly naming me as someone who justifies racism.

Free speech is a principle. One of the core principles of Democracy. The principle doesn't change whether you're on the internet or out in the street.

If you're a civilized person you will respect others rights to express themselves. If you want to silence someone, infinite number of justifications can be found.

So funnily enough, I wasn't actually referring to you, and didn't even see your comment until after my original comment.

But if you think that I was referring to you, maybe that says a lot more about you than you seem to think.

Free speech ends when you enter a private domain. The public is the government's domain.

This website is a private domain, my home is a private domain.

If you feel so strongly, let me come into your house, call all your family members all kinds of insults, and let's see if you won't kick me out.

 

[Oublious]

Yeah,you shouldn't be saying that when your TFX looks like someone took a photo of F-22 and F-35 and combined them.

lol

Have is it going? Did you manage to slick your pride and hate? Is TFX still a 3 gen fighter?

 

[LegionnairE]

So funnily enough, I wasn't actually referring to you, and didn't even see your comment until after my original comment.

But if you think that I was referring to you, maybe that says a lot more about you than you seem to think.

Free speech ends when you enter a private domain. The public is the government's domain.

This website is a private domain, my home is a private domain.

If you feel so strongly, let me come into your house, call all your family members all kinds of insults, and let's see if you won't kick me out.

This is a public forum, everybody with an access to internet can visit this page.
The site is owned by a private individual but as far as I'm aware nobody insulted WebMaster's mom and dad.

Even though mods get involved sometimes and some people get banned, it's mostly a free platform and I like it this way.

Have is it going? Did you manage to slick your pride and hate? Is TFX still a 3 gen fighter?

He never said that, he was just referring to some other people who were saying that

 

[Oublious]

This project was started after TFX was announced, composite materials. The body of TFX is made of composite materials. And other projects, everyone can not believe what we are doing. But the fact is we didn't start yesterday.

composite materials

Karbot composite fanblades technology.

Servo motor technology.

Titanium for turbofan.

 

[Foinikas]

Is TFX still a 3 gen fighter?

I don't know man,what is it? 3rd generation? 4th? 5th? Propaganda tool?

I mentioned some comments and skepticism from others and you rushed to laugh at me. How about you see this from the point of view of countries who had been producing jet fighters for decades. Isn't their skepticism logical?

 

[LegionnairE]

I don't know man,what is it? 3rd generation? 4th? 5th? Propaganda tool?

I mentioned some comments and skepticism from others and you rushed to laugh at me. How about you see this from the point of view of countries who had been producing jet fighters for decades. Isn't their skepticism logical?

You can be skeptical about anything but it's been many years since the first conceptual drawings and it will be 10 more years until this plane is operational, timeline makes sense, there's nothing out of the ordinary or suspicious is there?

 

[Foinikas]

You can be skeptical about anything but it's been many years since the first conceptual drawings and it will be 10 more years until this plane is operational, timeline makes sense, there's nothing out of the ordinary or suspicious is there?

10 or more years is ok. But having them talk as if it's almost ready because a prototype was released...