TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1607169179563724800

can this be verified?

tbh, at some point, I feel like the Turks might be trolling to get a reaction out of the haters.

 

[hyperman]

TAI TF-X

https://twitter.com/x/status/1607126025263087616

Looks really nice! a bit bit like the F-22 with the inlets and a bit like the f-35 with the nose and canopy . The IRST is different from the initial renders we saw too, looks like they made it more stealth.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1607169179563724800

can this be verified?

See the link below:

Pakistan - Turkey (PAC-TAI) Collaboration for NGFA-TFX 5th Gen Aircraft l Updates, News & Discussion

Pak military didn't believe in Turkey's capacity to go through with this project? IMO Simply yes. In Pakistan's perspective, no domestic engine = no TFX fighter.

defence.pk

 

[snne]

tbh, at some point, I feel like the Turks might be trolling to get a reaction out of the haters.

Tbh that guy is a very unreliable source who has almost no knowledge about the stuff he's speculating and not surprisingly everything he says turns out to be false. Yet he has many followers who believe him. At this point I think using him as a source should be banned. @waz

 

[merzifonlu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1607169179563724800

can this be verified?

This twitter account is notorious for its unreliability!

I watched that program. Prof. Dr. Mahmut Akşit did not imply ToT in any way. What he meant was that we could design and manufacture it without our help.

 

[Indos]

Different with the mock up

 

[eagleeye]

faruk aksit said that in every conversation. he is very confident about the matter. he says when tf10000 is ready others will be convinced as well. all technologies needed for national aircraft engine are used in tf10000.he repeated recently in a video conversation, unfortunately it's in Turkish.

 

[Kamil_baku]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1607169179563724800

can this be verified?

He mentioned that they developed all necessary metals to build the engine, only thing left is to develop the engine. He said you will see that they are capable of making mmu engine when they finish tf10000. Turkish government also want them to prove themselves with that engine

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Different with the mock up

It was mentioned for last 2 years that the noose will be different as they dont want other to see the real one for copy point of view, this noose could also change in real one as they take it very serious.
Air intake is big most probably for the tf35000 point of view as they know that they need to install bigger engine and day by day more confident about it

 

[Path-Finder]

faruk aksit said that in every conversation. he is very confident about the matter. he says when tf10000 is ready others will be convinced as well. all technologies needed for national aircraft motor are used in tf10000.he repeated recently in a video conversation, unfortunately it's in Turkish.

this video appeared on my feed yesterday did click on it and sped through it. gonna have to learn Turkish I think.

 

[MirageBlue]

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Different with the mock up

Extremely strange..the forward fuselage and radome shape of the mockup that was shown till very recently looks NOTHING like the forward fuselage and radome of the prototype in the picture..

Not sure how that happened, given it takes a LOT of time and effort to finalize the Outer Mould Line (OML) of fighters, involving Wind Tunnel testing, CFD and other studies. This now very strongly resembles the KF-21 Boramae and F-35 radome and front fuselage shape.

 

[[TR]AHMET]

Extremely strange..the forward fuselage and radome shape of the mockup that was shown till very recently looks NOTHING like the forward fuselage and radome of the prototype in the picture..

Not sure how that happened, given it takes a LOT of time and effort to finalize the Outer Mould Line (OML) of fighters, involving Wind Tunnel testing, CFD and other studies. This now very strongly resembles the KF-21 Boramae and F-35 radome and front fuselage shape.

ahah our TAI general manager Temel Kotil was explained that very before; mockups are doesnt represent real design TAI engineers changed diementions and some details for no one steal design before they finalized, it is just to show.

So even after first prototypes final design again can be change slightly.

 

[Deino]

Clearer image of that huge bird!

 

[MirageBlue]

ahah our TAI general manager Temel Kotil was explained that very before; mockups are doesnt represent real design TAI engineers changed diementions and some details for no one steal design before they finalized, it is just to show.

So even after first prototypes final design again can be change slightly.

Why would anyone steal any design of a front fuselage and radome? What is so special about it that others haven't done so far?

And who would steal their design? KAI already was way ahead of TAI in terms of design of KF-21, Dassault/Airbus most definitely won't be bothering to steal any TAI design for SCAF and nor is BAe with their Tempest. Who is left to steal? China? India? They're the only 2 other nations with active 5th gen fighter development programs.

Almost all fighter designs are influenced by some design but then need a LOT of work before they get finalized. Just looking at a picture of mockup no one is going to copy it. Putting out a mockup that doesn't resemble the real prototype is strange to say the least.

Anyway full marks to TAI for having assembled the first prototype so soon. Has definitely come as a surprise.

 

[Silicon0000]

An article on Turkish Drone

Milestones for Turkish aviation: Kızılelma and Anka-3 | Opinion

Türkiye's new uncrewed fighter jet Kızılelma and Anka-3 drones are expected to be power boosters for the Turkish Air Force

www.dailysabah.com

Milestones for Turkish aviation: Kızılelma and Anka-3

Türkiye's new uncrewed fighter jet Kızılelma and Anka-3 drones are expected to be power boosters for the Turkish Air Force

www.dailysabah.com

 

[Indos]

Why would anyone steal any design of a front fuselage and radome? What is so special about it that others haven't done so far?

And who would steal their design? KAI already was way ahead of TAI in terms of design of KF-21, Dassault/Airbus most definitely won't be bothering to steal any TAI design for SCAF and nor is BAe with their Tempest. Who is left to steal? China? India? They're the only 2 other nations with active 5th gen fighter development programs.

Almost all fighter designs are influenced by some design but then need a LOT of work before they get finalized. Just looking at a picture of mockup no one is going to copy it. Putting out a mockup that doesn't resemble the real prototype is strange to say the least.

Anyway full marks to TAI for having assembled the first prototype so soon. Has definitely come as a surprise.

How about AMCA, has the basic design frizzed ?

KF21 design is relatively the same as the design in December 2012 (developed by ADD Korea and Indonesian Aerospace). KAI and LM enter the program in middle of 2016.