TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

[Agha Sher]

The Hürjet

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3 to 4 prototypes are currently being constructed with the first flight expected to happen in early 2023.

 

[merzifonlu]

Wow … there are already three Hürjet prototypes under construction (looks at +0:32)

2x prototypes 1x static/load test and 1x cockpit section for ejection seat tests

 

[The Eagle]

Thread merged being duplicate. Avoid unnecessary derailing. Some posts are removed to maintain topic at hand.

Regards,

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

The Hürjet

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3 to 4 prototypes are currently being constructed with the first flight expected to happen in early 2023.

@JamD

 

[JamD]

@JamD

Yes Ertugul lol.

 

[nomi007]

again American engine.

 

[dBSPL]

China continued to buy foreign engines for 30 years, while developing the aviation industry with its indigenous projects. I don't think it will take that long in here.

 

[dBSPL]

"At the defense industry executive committee meeting held today, it was announced that Hürjet's first-stage serial production decision was taken. Thus, we can say that Hürjet has taken a step towards becoming a SSB project rather than just a TUSAS project."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1481293268143022081

A historic achievement for TAI. My heartfelt congratulations to the entire team. They did a great job.

Rest in peace, Vecihi Hürkuş.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

"At the defense industry executive committee meeting held today, it was announced that Hürjet's first-stage serial production decision was taken. Thus, we can say that Hürjet has taken a step towards becoming a USSR project rather than just a TUSAS project."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1481293268143022081

A historic achievement for TAI. My heartfelt congratulations to the entire team. They did a great job.

Rest in peace, Vecihi Hürkuş.

You mean the SSB is about to back this project for the Turkish Armed Forces?

 

[dBSPL]

You mean the SSB is about to back this project for the Turkish Armed Forces?

Sorry for the typo. Yes, the project is now under the support of the Presidency of Defense Industries.

 

[aziqbal]

which engine will it use?

 

[dBSPL]

SSB Issued an RFP for the TF-X Engine Development Project Phase-II
Speaking at the "Global Strategies Conference in Defense and Aerospace Industry ‘21" on December 4, 2021, President of Defense Industries, Prof. İsmail DEMİR disclosed that the Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB) has recently issued a new tender to select the Main Contractor Company for Phase-II, which constitutes the second phase in the development process of the new generation national turbofan engine that will power the National Combat Aircraft (TF-X) designed to meet the operational needs of the Turkish Air Force between 2030 and 2070. According to the information I have received, aside from TR Motor Power Systems (TR-M), which carries out Phase-I studies, Kale and TEI will also be able to bid for the Phase-II tender of the TF-X Engine Development Project.
Issue 111

Regarding the RFP, SSB DEMİR shared following information: “Our Request for Proposal (RFP) is different from the classic RFPs. It is actually a study to determine Turkey's domestic engine development capabilities. This RFP aims for potential players in Turkey's national jet engine journey to come together and create a roadmap where all the existing capabilities in Turkey regarding domestic engine production are on the table and create a strategy together. Since Turkey does not have a comprehensive history in this matter, we do not have many experienced engineers and designers. That is why we do not have the luxury of dividing the process into three or four parts, so we must combine our capabilities and work together in a coordinated manner. We have manufacturing capabilities, TEI has demonstrated significant manufacturing capabilities. Further material research and manufacturing techniques are being studied, but the RFP we mentioned is a new step in our national engine development process.”

According to the information I obtained from a source close to the project, the tender aims to find the best offer rather than a competition between companies. First of all, the company that proposes the best offer will be determined, and then the process will be shared between the three companies. When Phase-II studies are completed, a tender will be issued for Phase-III. The project will be implemented in phases. According to the information I have received, TR Motor will submit its bid to the tender together with an engine OEM company. I believe that this company is Ukrainian Ivchenko Progress, the current technical support provider for developing TF-X’s APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) and ATSS (Air Turbine Start System).

SSB Issued an RFP for the TF-X Engine Development Project Phase-II

Speaking at the

www.defenceturkey.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1481230491009400833

which engine will it use?

it was announced that the first Hurjets would be built with the GE F404 variant, after many semi-official and press news stated that 'EUROJET EJ200 was selected'. The fact that the EJ200 has never been used in a single engine configuration is possibly important factor that strengthens the choice of the F404. I think another factor is GE's established and strong presence in Turkey.

However, the President of the SSB, Prof. Dr. İsmail Demir stated that their target in the second phase of the work carried out for Hürjet is the domestic engine. Hürjet is an open-ended project. Decision taken for serial production for the advanced jet trainer, but there is also work on some different combatant variants, as we have discussed in the previous pages. It is quite possible to see different Hurjet variants with different engines in the coming period.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

SSB Issued an RFP for the TF-X Engine Development Project Phase-II
Speaking at the "Global Strategies Conference in Defense and Aerospace Industry ‘21" on December 4, 2021, President of Defense Industries, Prof. İsmail DEMİR disclosed that the Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB) has recently issued a new tender to select the Main Contractor Company for Phase-II, which constitutes the second phase in the development process of the new generation national turbofan engine that will power the National Combat Aircraft (TF-X) designed to meet the operational needs of the Turkish Air Force between 2030 and 2070. According to the information I have received, aside from TR Motor Power Systems (TR-M), which carries out Phase-I studies, Kale and TEI will also be able to bid for the Phase-II tender of the TF-X Engine Development Project.
Issue 111

Regarding the RFP, SSB DEMİR shared following information: “Our Request for Proposal (RFP) is different from the classic RFPs. It is actually a study to determine Turkey's domestic engine development capabilities. This RFP aims for potential players in Turkey's national jet engine journey to come together and create a roadmap where all the existing capabilities in Turkey regarding domestic engine production are on the table and create a strategy together. Since Turkey does not have a comprehensive history in this matter, we do not have many experienced engineers and designers. That is why we do not have the luxury of dividing the process into three or four parts, so we must combine our capabilities and work together in a coordinated manner. We have manufacturing capabilities, TEI has demonstrated significant manufacturing capabilities. Further material research and manufacturing techniques are being studied, but the RFP we mentioned is a new step in our national engine development process.”

According to the information I obtained from a source close to the project, the tender aims to find the best offer rather than a competition between companies. First of all, the company that proposes the best offer will be determined, and then the process will be shared between the three companies. When Phase-II studies are completed, a tender will be issued for Phase-III. The project will be implemented in phases. According to the information I have received, TR Motor will submit its bid to the tender together with an engine OEM company. I believe that this company is Ukrainian Ivchenko Progress, the current technical support provider for developing TF-X’s APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) and ATSS (Air Turbine Start System).

SSB Issued an RFP for the TF-X Engine Development Project Phase-II

Speaking at the

www.defenceturkey.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1481230491009400833

it was announced that the first Hurjets would be built with the GE F404 variant, after many semi-official and press news stated that 'EUROJET EJ200 was selected'. The fact that the EJ200 has never been used in a single engine configuration is possibly important factor that strengthens the choice of the F404. I think another factor is GE's established and strong presence in Turkey.

However, the President of the SSB, Prof. Dr. İsmail Demir stated that their target in the second phase of the work carried out for Hürjet is the domestic engine. Hürjet is an open-ended project. Decision taken for serial production for the advanced jet trainer, but there is also work on some different combatant variants, as we have discussed in the previous pages. It is quite possible to see different Hurjet variants with different engines in the coming period.

@JamD It's pretty interesting to follow along.

 

[dBSPL]

Give them 10 years, and they will make this engine problem a thing of the past, from underwater to space.

 

[BaybarsHan]