TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

[OguzSenturk]

Turkish people are short.

But also fat as well

If this is true, then pilots will have to sit in 37cm chairs

 

[cabatli_53]

How does BBC knows it?
Length 12.2M
Height 3.5M
Wing span 7.4M

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Tf-X FX-1 twin engine is the same league with latest generation stealth fighters. Attention to required MTOW ratea...

Don't believe everything you see on media.

 

[damm1t]

Fancy toys for future TF-X

GÖKDOĞAN, BOZDOĞAN and SOM-J

 

[KediKesenFare3]

How does BBC knows it?
Length 12.2M
Height 3.5M
Wing span 7.4M

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Picture is most probably a fake. Couldn't find this image on BBC Türkce.

 

[AnatolianEagle]

Tf-X FX-1 twin engine is the same league with latest generation stealth fighters. Attention to required MTOW ratea...

Don't believe everything you see on media.

I don't bro

 

[cabatli_53]

TF-X MTOW :max. 32t requested
F-16 MTOW : 21.7t
Eurofighter MTOW: 23.5t
F-35A MTOW: 23t
F-22 MTOW: 37t (engine thrust ratio is one of the best. Empty weight is moreor less similar)
J-31 MTOW: 18t

 

[KediKesenFare3]

TF-X MTOW :max. 32t requested
F-16 MTOW : 21.7t
Eurofighter MTOW: 23.5t
F-35A MTOW: 23t
F-22 MTOW: 37t (engine thrust ratio is one of the best. Empty weight is moreor less similar)
J-31 MTOW: 18t

What's MTOW?

 

[TheMightyBender]

What's MTOW?

Maximum Take-Off Weight

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Maximum Take-Off Weight

Of course, thanks. Stupid question.

 

[The SC]

Is this a bad sign? It's supposed to be an air superority fighter jet. A smaller size means lower average cost per unit and higher maneuverability. Am I wrong? Just asking, please correct me if I'm wrong.

However, I don't believe in those specifications. It's still too early.

It is supposed to cost $80 million per plane..
And how does it compare in size to the F-16 it is supposed to replace?

 

[AnatolianEagle]

TF-X TAI

The Turkish Air Force (TurAF) is now fully commited to its next-generation fighter aircraft program. Along with the acquisition of F-35A Lighting II fighter jets, the TF-X program has been launched to meet TurAF requirements beyond 2030s.

Turkey's TF-X fighter jet provisional design showcased by TAI at IDEF 2017
(Credit: TAI)

Launched by the Turkish Government to replace the TurAF aging fleet of F-16C/D fighter jets, the TF-X program is planned to be kept operational in the Air Force inventory until 2070s and will be interoperable with other critical platforms such as the F-35A.

The TF-X first prototype would take to the skies in 2023. First delivery to TurAF is planned for 2029 and will continue until 2039. Turkey’s need for the TF-X fighter jet would be 100-150 aircraft.

The TF-X indigenous design and development program prime contract between Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) of Ministry of Turkish National Defence and Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) has been signed on August 5th, 2016.


Turkey's TF-X fighter jet provisional design showcased by TAI at IDEF 2017
(Credit: TAI)

According to TAI, the TF-X fighter jet will be a single seat multi-role aircraft mainly designed for air-to-air role with a consideration for air-to-surface capability as well. It will feature stealth and super cruise capabilities, as well as new generation avionics, such as AESA radar.

Upon engineering analysis, preliminary studies, based on information received from engines manufacturers, the TF-X would have a twin-engine configuration. In this regard, an initial agreement has been signed between TAI and BAE Systems on January 28th, 2017, in the presence of Prime Ministers of Turkey and UK. Two companies are actually bidding for the TF-X engines: GE Aviation with the F414-GE-400 and Eurojet with a improved version of the EJ-200 engine.

Once the TF-X fighter aircraft developed, the ambition of the Tukish industry would be its exportability to key allies and friendly countries.

http://airrecognition.com/index.php...ds-tf-x-next-gen-fighter-jet-development.html

 

[Mr.Department]

EJ-200 engine.

Just know Mete Yarar said in TVNET TV that he heard from insiders that last day of IDEF 2017 RR and TAI will sign engine contract.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

It would be financially a disaster because the costs would be to high.
Indigenous products is nice but you need to keep an eye on the costs and exporting and thus making money from TFX would be a relieve to the Turkish tax payer.

Usually, you're right. In this particular case, however, I'd say you are wrong. We should not apply a market-based approach towards defense developments. Even Western politicians underline that armaments are related to politics rather than to economy even though there is obviously an overlap.

We always should aim for exporting our products, still, that's just a bonus otherwise our defense industry wouldn't make sense at all. We don't have a single major product that generated profit for the Turkish tax authorities. Even in America, Russia, UK or China, 90% of all defense companies rely on state orders.

 

[Mr.Department]

We always should aim for exporting our products

Most systems at IDEF 2017 are export oriented. First day more than 2000 contracts were signed.
I would like to see the statistics who signed with whom.

 

[era_shield]

Fancy toys for future TF-X

GÖKDOĞAN, BOZDOĞAN and SOM-J

Pretty sure this is photoshopped. It's an AMRAAM which someone has coloured orange and a SOM, not SOM-J which someone has also coloured orange (intake is on the bottom - it's on the sides for SOM-J).