It is quite clear that Indians have an "Us vs Them" attitude against the Kashmiris. There is nothing further to discuss.
Sure. And the US vs. them attitude is a product of the behavior of the Kashmiris. If they were peaceful, we the common Indian would be in their corner.
But since that's not the case, we are fine with treating them the way they want to be treated.
But you're right, you as a Pakistani, there isn't much to discuss Kashmir with you anyways.
Do you know what is the definition of courage? It is anything but backing down against superior numbers. Many super powers have been humbled by the people of a land, and Kashmiris are only facing India here. Kashmiris have a much higher chance than the Vietnamese.
Do you know the definition of stupidity?! Its trying the same thing over and over expecting different results.
In the case of Pakistanis and by extension the dissenting Kashmiris, the line between courage and stupidity is a hairline.
Kashmiris have tried the violent approach in the past only to be crushed under the boot of the Indian army. Pakistan has tried to wrest Kashmir from our control by force only to be humiliated time and again. Not to mention been cut down to size as a result of the same.
Now both Kashmiris and Pakistanis can try invoking the power of "Jihad" and see where it gets you. LOL!
I for one wont be holding my breath.
Maybe its not the definition of courage you should be looking up. Try Pragmatism and Practicality. But I suppose the Pakistani curriculum has not gone past the C in the alphabet, so we shall give it a few years. You too shall accept your fate dear Pakistani.
Haha. So you're comparing IOK to Azad Kashmir, when the Indian Army Chief, General Bipin Rawat, had to stoop to the point that he had to threaten the people of Kashmir that they will turn their guns on civilians?
I suppose missing the woods for the trees is the standard Pakistani approach. So ill let you slide.
You claim to have a "moral and emotional" connection to the Kashmiri cause. So please put your money where your mouth is and give up claim on ALL Kashmir as per Kashmiri wishes, which is to be independent of India and Pak. Maybe then we will take your nautanki of having a moral high ground seriously.
But who are you trying to fool? Like I said, we know your kind way too well.
Nothing comes close to the hypocrisy of Indians. They scream for the blood of Kashmiris and then act the victims in the capitals of the world.
I suppose you've never heard of an action and reaction.
India is reacting to violent Kashmiris. We obviously would prefer to kill no one. But peace cannot be one sided.
Our diplomacy in other capitals is to dissuade Pakistan from arming and using Kashmiris as cannon fodder.
Now in the process if Indians (army or civilians) die at the hands of Kashmiri and Pakistani terrorism, we will obviously demand retribution of equal measure.
So what you consider baying for blood is simply our attempt at eliminating violent elements from Kashmir. Our diplomacy is to have your friends (the few that exist) to knock some sense into you guys.
The area of Azad Kashmir has been kept under separate jurisdiction since 1948 just so it can be reunited with an independent IOK. Pakistanis have no right to purchase land in Azad Kashmir and only the defense, for obvious reasons, is provided by Pakistan army. The fact remains that the flag of Pakistan waves proudly on the streets of Kashmir, while the flag of India has no backers in Srinagar.
LOL. Sure, if you're content with useless symbolism, be our guest. While we continue to actively rule Kashmir.
Like I said, we are both after the same thing, ie. Kashmir the strategic piece of land. If the people want to live peacefully in Indian lands, they will be welcome with open arms and integrated. If not (take the peaceful approach) they will face the barrel of our guns. The choice is simple.
With regards to the Bengalis, the difference between India and Pakistan today is that we realized our mistakes and carry no ill will towards them. That is much less than what the Indians have been able to do since 1947. We know your kind too well!
As if you had a choice! lol
You were forced and humiliated into a surrender. The **** could you do anyways in that situation.
But notice how when the Bengalis were asking for freedom, the Pakistani Army massacred Bengalis. No Pakistani stood up for human rights then! Now you want to sit here and lecture us? Please! its like the Nazis trying to profess human rights. lol
Haha. So if Kashmir didn't belong to its people and only belonged to its rulers, does India actually belong to the British, or the Afghans, or the Persians, or the Mongols? or the Greeks?
It did at those points in time. Kashmir belongs to India now.
Funny how this Kashmiri nationalism didn't exist then but suddenly sprouted out of thin air in 1947? Where were those courageous Kashmiri stone pelters?
Kashmir as an independent state has never been ruled by the people as a democracy. The dogras were the last rulers that are of Kashmiri origin. And they acceded to India.
So I ask you again, when have the people of Kashmir owned Kashmir?
The British have a legal case, while Gandhi had a purely emotional case which should have no value to you? Or Bhagat Singh should be treated as an arsonist and a murderer instead of a hero? Shashi Tharoor should stop demanding the British for an apology and you along with all of India should kneel before the British for forgiveness against the Indian protests for freedom? The Indian rebellion of 1857 was actually the mutiny of 1857 as the British had termed it? The Jallianwal Bagh massacre was absolutely justified?
And the British willingly ceded the territory to the Republic of India. As did the Dogras in Kashmir. Applying the same legal means of succession in both cases.
So what exactly is the point of your asinine mumbo jumbo?
So as I said, we aren't willing to cede ANYTHING to Kashmiris or Pakistanis. Get emotional coz that's the only option left for you guys. From a legal standpoint, we are toight like a toiger!
Please don't run away now and explain all of this in the light of your statements for the Kashmiris. Or else it will be proved that your kind was just the sort that we had thought you were.
haha. Yeah sure, coz I'm really scared of losing face to some emotional people on an anonymous forum.
Mind you, your huffing and puffing and emotional rants aren't going to change anything! India will continue to rule Kashmir. Our back and forth is as useless as tits on a bull.
