Terrorists are attacking us and government is negotiating with them: COAS Gen. Raheel Sharif.

[MastanKhan]

no you have short memory, it was army who used to say mujahideen are their strategical assets, they still call Hiqanni group their asset they are planning to use in Afghanistan, no to list their strategical assets in Kashmir...be real call a spade a spade, its people like you are are cause of the problems not people like us who point your faults when there is still time to fix it

Sir,

Just becausesomeone were my lacky 5 10 or 1 year ago----it does not mean---I cannot divorce them. You do the same thing in your every day life---you parents and family members have done the same---you build a relationship with someone---they change their direction---so you change your direction as well----.

You are married for 10 years---you can't live with your wife no more----you go thru a divorce and seperate ways---now where does it say that you are responsible for all of her actions after the divorce----or a part of liability after the divorce.

You are not in ETERNAL DEBT to maintain a relationship all thru your existence----and a nation---it can change its direction of who it is going to support just on a whim and the direction of the wind if need be---.

We need them---we use them to our advantage---they go astray and want to do things on their own---they have chosen their path---if the path conflicts with the direction that the nation wants to take---then they will be crushed---that is how nations work---that is how the nations act---.

National welfare and welbeing is the priority number one----period.

Agreed but solution is still the same cut the hand that feeds the monster.

Sir,

You kill the monster---and not cut the hand that feeds it. The monster---out of habbit---will turn on you as well---as it turned on his master.

You can take care of the hand that feeds it as well and cut it off----that will be the saudis funding the terrorists.

 

[Tameem]

Yarooo (Army supporters).....tell me one thing........when these Generals want to attack civilian govts in broad daylight they don't needs anyones permisssion, fabricated 1001 reason on their own even abrogated the constitution altogether and occupy Pakistan, On the other hand when nation needs to stands against these talibanoos they first needs civillian govt permission form past 6 years..............kis ko chvvvtia bana rahay hain yeh generals

 

[nForce]

perhaps this general should stop making political comments, especially those which are not in line with the civilian government.

 

[Areesh]

Vegetarian diet? I do not belong to the specie of @Areesh

Our specie is far better than your kind. Na ghar kai na ghat kai. Neither Pakistani nor an Afghani.

Paan-khor, know your place....

I very well know my place. What is your place? Somewhere in Afghanistan?

 

[Cherokee]

Government should deal with the problem the way they agree upon . It is not in military's jurisdiction . A lot of people suggest that a good way for India to solve kashmir issue is changing demographics of kashmir . More people from mainland India just like China dealt with Xinjiang and Tibet .

But government is dealing with kashmir issue on it's own about which many people are not aware . Free scholarships etc to study in mainland India , helping them integrate with India .

Regarding Khalistan issue It has been dealt with by making Punjab one of the richest states in India . Khalistan issue did not subside with Golden Temple attack or Congress sponsored riot's but development .


Same goes for Pakistan . You can kill hundreds of people but not an ideology . Ideology can be killed with ideology . More development , education scholarships to study in mainland Pakistan etc .

Military should be used outside the border not Inside . Take example of Maoist issue . India can use military surround these retards and finish them in matter of weeks . But what kind of precedent will it set ??

Same goes for Pakistan . Military should know it's place and try not to make politicized statement .

P.S. I give Example of India and Pakistan to elaborate as they are some sort of ugly conjoined twins .

 

[MastanKhan]

Yarooo (Army supporters).....tell me one thing........when these Generals want to attack civilian govts in broad daylight they don't needs anyones permisssion, fabricated 1001 reason on their own even abrogated the constitution altogether and occupy Pakistan, On the other hand when nation needs to stands against these talibanoos they first needs civillian govt permission form past 6 years..............kis ko chvvvtia bana rahay hain yeh generals

Hi,

Since I my was in my teens thru Bhuttos regime---none of these generals came on their own---but rather on the begging of the civilians---Zia came into power because pakistanis prayed and begged him to do so---Musharraf came into power because the pakistanis begged him to do so---they were tired of the GUTLESS coward AKA Nawaz Sharif---.

People danced on the streets and distributed sweets on those occasions---. Benazir got thrown out and civilians danced on the streets and distributed sweets---.

There was a civilian govt in place at that time---even though there was a general in charge---but most of the management was done by the civilians---and the nation raised the slogan of islamic brotherhood---. Musharraf was concerned about how far he could push the civilians---.

The pakistanis were not mentally ready to kill their muslim brethren who were full time terrorists as well---because according to pakistanis-----the terrorists are not going to harm them---for a long time---all terrorrist activity and suicide bomb blasts were blamed on outsiders---assuming they are our muslim brothers---.

After getting the sh-it beaten out of them---pakistanis realized that it is indeed these terrorists that are killing them and these morons care less about islamic brotherhood---as a matter of fact---the terrs don't even consider the pakistanis as muslims---.

How is that for an encore?

 

[alibaz]

What was musharraf doing for 10 years,,,hain??
lame excuses

TTP got actives somewhere in Dec 2007. Musharraf had many other things to do.

 

[Tameem]

Hi,

Since I my was in my teens thru Bhuttos regime---none of these generals came on their own---but rather on the begging of the civilians---Zia came into power because pakistanis prayed and begged him to do so---Musharraf came into power because the pakistanis begged him to do so---they were tired of the GUTLESS coward AKA Nawaz Sharif---.

No one beged Auyb for take over, he started this interference & insult of constitution of his own & both others follows it as norms either with coercion or armstwist whatever suitable & by the way the same GUTLESS, COWARD AKA nawaz sharif is raping them once again day in day out, weather one took Musharaf treason case, ISI vs Geo or Kh Asif vs Army.....in the words of actor Salman Khan i.e Dabang hero....."Main maroonga kam, Ghaseeton ga Ziada"....that's what litterally happeing to BRAVE, GENIUS & UPRIGHT GENERALS at the moment.

People danced on the streets and distributed sweets on those occasions---. Benazir got thrown out and civilians danced on the streets and distributed sweets---.

This not any measurement of popularity or dis-popularity in a nation of scores of millions.

celebration on Musharraf resignation - Google Search

There was a civilian govt in place at that time---even though there was a general in charge---but most of the management was done by the civilians---and the nation raised the slogan of islamic brotherhood---. Musharraf was concerned about how far he could push the civilians---.

The pakistanis were not mentally ready to kill their muslim brethren who were full time terrorists as well---because according to pakistanis-----the terrorists are not going to harm them---for a long time---all terrorrist activity and suicide bomb blasts were blamed on outsiders---assuming they are our muslim brothers---.

After getting the sh-it beaten out of them---pakistanis realized that it is indeed these terrorists that are killing them and these morons care less about islamic brotherhood---as a matter of fact---the terrs don't even consider the pakistanis as muslims---.

How is that for an encore?

one only needs to compare social and cultural norms in Bhutto and Zia tenure & he/she easily comprehends that Islamic brotherhood is a weapons mostly used by our Army & ISI with the help of CIA throughout Pakistan for recruitment againt soviets, it was a brainchild of generals not civilians in the first place, & what coming home to roost are infact Army's chickens not civillians.

 

[MastanKhan]

No one beged Auyb for take over, he started this interference & insult of constitution of his own & both others follows it as norms either with coercion or armstwist whatever suitable & by the way the same GUTLESS, COWARD AKA nawaz sharif is raping them once again day in day out, weather one took Musharaf treason case, ISI vs Geo or Kh Asif vs Army.....in the words of actor Salman Khan i.e Dabang hero....."Main maroonga kam, Ghaseeton ga Ziada"....that's what litterally happeing to BRAVE, GENIUS & UPRIGHT GENERALS at the moment.



This not any measurement of popularity or dis-popularity in a nation of scores of millions.

celebration on Musharraf resignation - Google Search



one only needs to compare social and cultural norms in Bhutto and Zia tenure & he/she easily comprehends that Islamic brotherhood is a weapons mostly used by our Army & ISI with the help of CIA throughout Pakistan for recruitment againt soviets, it was a brainchild of generals not civilians in the first place, & what coming home to roost are infact Army's chickens not civillians.

Hi,

The state can and will use and abuse benevolent strategies to its cause and then move away once the goal has been achieved or if it realizes that the action is futile..

And you are right---Nawaz Sharif is back at his old games and the generals----a lot better was expected from them than what they delivered after 9/11.

 

[Viper0011.]

Hi,
The state can and will use and abuse benevolent strategies to its cause and then move away once the goal has been achieved or if it realizes that the action is futile..

And you are right---Nawaz Sharif is back at his old games and the generals----a lot better was expected from them than what they delivered after 9/11.

I hate to jump in here. But my two cents, clean UP the NW area all together. Once and for all, just take out all the hideouts and Clean this mess up.
However, on the same note, the call and the political support comes from the Civilian gov't. Not Mr. General. He REPORTS to the Civilian gov't and doesn't get to say in how the civilian government wants to proceed. I think the US should pressure the civilian gov't, give them intelligence and other equipment and the government in Pakistan should initiate a public campaign and remove this tumor of talibans once and for all from your society. But again, the DEMOCRATIC government gets to do that. The military generals don't. Your country is FINALLY moving forward with the stalled and depressed economy for decades. The last thing you guys want is another general sitting in power.
For those of you who just don't like the elected officials for personal bias, political affiliations or for your current or x-military background (I know there are a LOT of each category on this forum that hate the people in power for their own reasons), take a look at your country and its 200 people before you suggest the democracy should be killed again, that would mean worsening of the economy and everything else, resulting in over 200 million people suffering (who are ALREADY suffering). Let the elected officials handle these. Nations go to wars and support operations. Militaries or generals don't !

 

[Cheetah786]

Sir,

You kill the monster---and not cut the hand that feeds it. The monster---out of habbit---will turn on you as well---as it turned on his master.

You can take care of the hand that feeds it as well and cut it off----that will be the saudis funding the terrorists.

Mastan bhai i was refereeing to Maddrasah supplying Human resources to T T P and other Terrorist.

 

[Menace2Society]

Madrassahs need to be audited and regulated and operations across NW.

In this current state of flux we will be at 2050 and still be negotiating with an entity which makes money to serve vested interests of others. This is something you cannot negotiate with unless you are the highest bidder.

 

[EL LOBO]

These stray khakis are in the mood of another martial law, they have tasted the pleasures of rule, they cant keep fasting for long.

yawr koi isko PM banao ye mulk ko behter chalaiy ga....

 

[xyxmt]

What are you trying to say here Genera? No one is going to kill these incompetent & corrupt politicians, Army will suffer because of rented terrorists & sold out politicians who have no love for Pakistan. So General do what is right & do what is good for Pakistan. DEMOCRAZY is only sinking Pakistan.

Its funny how politician need approval of Generals to stay in power, and how generals need Politician's approval when fighting a war on terror. Catch 21, the phrase, originated from Pakistan.

damn just realized this a year old thread and generals did without permission after all as usual

 

[FaujHistorian]

Its funny how politician need approval of Generals to stay in power, and how generals need Politician's approval when fighting a war on terror. Catch 21, the phrase, originated from Pakistan.

damn just realized this a year old thread and generals did without permission after all as usual

yeap. Old thread being dug up.

And yet no one wants to accept that they were wrong.

Since June this year, majority politicians and army have worked nicely to bring relative peace.

Only few $tupids are doing dharnas and distracting from this important mission.

Not a short term mission but one that goes for at least 10 years and kills all terrorist mofos in Punjab, Sindh and other areas.