Terrorist attack, hostage situation in Dhaka ; Analysis & Footage

[asad71]

1.For a comprehensive analysis, one needs to start from Bush Jr's declaration of a crusade just after 9/11. Standing flanked by Donald Rumsfield and Dick Chenny he proclaimed this as the leader of WCC (Western Christian Civilization). Consider also the innumberable instances where Muslim youth have been lured, trapped, brain washed and then let loose.A Muslim in distress anywhere in the world arouses sympathy in all Muslims. The killings and destruction in Afghnistan for no apparent reason (9/11 was an inside job), the killings of Saddam and Gaddafi, the massacers of Libyans, Iraqis, Palstinians, Syrians and other Muslims are resented by the Muslim youth everywhere. The treatment meted out to the Muslims by the Western-Zionist media is another cause of frustration.
2.SHW/BAL has let loose a reign of terror. The fascist regime has gagged the media. Judiciary is totally subservient to to the ruling party. Administration is politicized. The Police has taken the role storm troopers of the ruling party. As such recruitments are mostly from BAL's youth cadre, from SHW's own district and from non-Muslims who constitute BAL's vote bank. In such a situation there is no institution or space where people can air grievences or seek justice.
3. To quell the ising miltancy, India needs to simply withdraw her unqualified support to SHW and her cohort. We are a nation which has sacrificed huge for independence. We will not loose this easily just because India supported us in '71 and hosted SHW family for 7 years after her father was assasinated. People of BD are highly poitical conscious. They resent any outsourcing of sovereignty or defence and foreign relations to others.

 

[kobiraaz]

Took me 3 mins tops, time well spent exposing an IS supporter.



You were either too naive or a terrorist supporter or both. BTW you did not answer my question. Do you consider them terrorists now?

Yes. They even bomb Medina. They have violated all those criteria I wrote in your screenshot....The time I realized ISIS are transgressors I stopped going to IS threads in 2014 long before Paris Attack

Well few months ago after the killing Of Professor Rezaul and Faysal Arefin Dipon, I got into this huge fight with @bongbang .Pointing out how BAL is not committed to snuffing out the radical terrorists and only playing it to gain petty political interest and clinging to power . Which resulted in bongbang saying I am either trying to gain jamati sympathy or a atheist (Which I am).

In truth like most Bangladeshi's, I am too tired of these petty political games of the two parties. And this killing of writers,bloggers and publisher's and no action against radicals is the only issue which made me totally hopeless about BAL and Hasina.They has lost my trust.

So as I said this before and I will say it again. If Hasina can't take tough actions against these radical Islamist s and bring justice for the victims,she should step down and let democratic process start again.

Does that make me Jamati?


Yesterday one of my Japanese friend asked me why Japanese are being targeted? What harm they inflict to us? As a fact I know Japanese nation has absolute love for Bangladesh and wishes us all the good. So what do you expect me to do? Try to make rational debate with her when she is grieving and in emotional distress? I have nothing but to ask for forgiveness for failing to do our duty as a host.

As many Italian and Japanese citizens has lost their lives ,while they were a guest of our nation the failure is on us. And we have nothing but to listen to their sorrow and what they are saying. This is the least we could do.

I hope you understand the point.

Correct me if I am wrong. Dhaka Attack took place not because they hated Non Muslims, but It was related with ISIS's war. Srilankans were let go But as we know Buddhist are hated by Bengali religious community now a days because of Rohingya Issue. Yet SriLankans were allowed to leave but Japanese were killed. Most probably that is because Japan is a close Nato Ally.

So if they follow your view point they are honest....and if they dont they are dishonest?

The "dishonest" ones will tell me they are the honest ones and you are being dishonest . See how it works?

I gather my impression from the actual people I know who have families in Bangladesh. It is a mixed complicated picture w.r.t BAL and BNP vicious political power play...nothing is black and white, no one is completely clean or completely filthy.

In the end the almighty knows as you said. So we can only watch and make the best understanding we can as independently as we can.

It is true. Bangladesh is a one party state right now. BNP Jamat are only on papers right now. Some of field activists are killed, Some are in prison and Most are hiding to avoid death and prison. @bongbang will explain it to you.

BD is in denial from what I've been reading so far. ISIS is present and a real danger. The writing is on there wall.

ISIS is not present, they only have online connection. This was a major operation in Dhaka by Extremists and 5 terrorists used Single. 22 semi automatic rifle, Single pistol and two sharp cutting weapons. Which means They don't have easy access to Weapons, those which are used from black market maybe.

 

[Nilgiri]

Single pistol

What was the make and calibre?

 

[jaunty]

Yes. They even bomb Medina. They have violated all those criteria I wrote in your screenshot....T

You are again displaying your inability to use common sense. There were plenty of incidents of ISIS attacking civilians even when you wrote that in 2014. They were also very clear with what they wanted. So don't try to justify your support through technicalities. Most of us knew what they were even back then. You were wrong and it is better to admit that and move on if you have truly moved on.

 

[Saiful Islam]

I'VE clearly stated that shooting at protesters (With live ammo) has started during the illegal RAWAMY regime. What part of it you didn't understand? See, only an enemy installed illegal regime can oppress people to that magnitude but not a patriotic one.

Shapla square was a prime example of of overnight protesters being put in body bags and trucks then dumped in the river. this regime spares no one, they are jinnoth.

 

[M_Saint]

1.For a comprehensive analysis, one needs to start from Bush Jr's declaration of a crusade just after 9/11. Standing flanked by Donald Rumsfield and Dick Chenny he proclaimed this as the leader of WCC (Western Christian Civilization). Consider also the innumberable instances where Muslim youth have been lured, trapped, brain washed and then let loose.A Muslim in distress anywhere in the world arouses sympathy in all Muslims. The killings and destruction in Afghnistan for no apparent reason (9/11 was an inside job), the killings of Saddam and Gaddafi, the massacers of Libyans, Iraqis, Palstinians, Syrians and other Muslims are resented by the Muslim youth everywhere. The treatment meted out to the Muslims by the Western-Zionist media is another cause of frustration.

1.For a comprehensive analysis, one needs to start from Bush Jr's declaration of a crusade just after 9/11. Standing flanked by Donald Rumsfield and Dick Chenny he proclaimed this as the leader of WCC (Western Christian Civilization). Consider also the innumberable instances where Muslim youth have been lured, trapped, brain washed and then let loose.A Muslim in distress anywhere in the world arouses sympathy in all Muslims. The killings and destruction in Afghnistan for no apparent reason (9/11 was an inside job), the killings of Saddam and Gaddafi, the massacers of Libyans, Iraqis, Palstinians, Syrians and other Muslims are resented by the Muslim youth everywhere. The treatment meted out to the Muslims by the Western-Zionist media is another cause of frustration.

I understand UR logic but one shouldn't be punished for other's mistake/wrong/crime. And all the Italians and Japanese were actually helping us for economic upliftment. So intent didn't match impact anyway and IND became the ultimate beneficiary.

 

[idune]

Awami League leader and father of terrorist leader Rohan, gone into hiding. It seems Awami League government had arranged his escape because it is impossible for him leave under intense police surveillance.

http://www.bd-desh.net/newsdetail/detail/200/225714

 

[idune]

Foreign firms cancel travel to Bangladesh after Dhaka cafe attack
Foreign nationals in building and garment industries told to stay home and hospitality sector sees rise in cancellations

Foreign companies with nationals working in Bangladesh’s garment and building industries have suspended travel to the country and told workers to stay at home after a deadly attack by Islamic militants on a restaurant in Dhaka.

The hospitality sector is also seeing cancellations, hotels are tightening security and foreign embassies are looking at reducing staffing after the attack on Friday claimed the lives of nine Italians, seven Japanese, an American, an Indian and some Bangladeshi nationals.

He said that after a foreigner was killed in Bangladesh last year, some overseas companies pared back travel to the country and asked for meetings to be held in Bangkok, New Delhi or Hong Kong instead.

Islam said: “This time the intensity of the threat is much higher and we will definitely see companies altering their plans.”

Sudhir Dhingra, the head of Orient Craft based in the Indian city of Gurgaon, said: “There’ll definitely be an impact on the garment industry. I was just speaking to a top label which said its official who was supposed to visit Bangladesh to inspect an order has refused to go.”

Bangladesh garment exporters who dealt with some of those killed in the attack were still coming to terms with what has happened. “I was doing business with six of the nine Italians who died. It’s shocking and heartbreaking,” said Meshba Uddin Ali, the managing director of Wega Fashion Sweater.

Amos Ho, a senior manager at Pou Chen, one of the world’s largest makers of trainers for brands such as Nike, Adidas and Puma, said: “We’ve urged our employees to be cautious. They have to pay attention to their personal safety.”

Industry analysts have suggested clothing brands may now consider shifting out of Bangladesh to less unsettled countries in Asia, such as Cambodia and Sri Lanka. No major companies have yet signalled official plans.

“There are no plans on changing any sourcing, but we are following developments closely,” Sweden’s H&M said in a statement echoed by other big retailers. The US and British embassies in Bangladesh may reduce staff numbers, one diplomatic source said, and ask only essential staff to stay on.

The Japanese construction companies Obayashi and Shimizu, which both have more than a dozen employees working on bridge projects in Bangladesh, said they had advised staff to stay indoors.

At least two five-star hotels in Dhaka that cater primarily to business clients said they had received cancellations since Friday’s attack. “Whenever people book it’s usually within two or three days of their visit to Dhaka and now nobody is doing any bookings at all,” said a source at one of the hotels, adding that this week was typically quiet due to the upcoming Eid celebrations.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ms-cancel-travel-bangladesh-dhaka-cafe-attack

 

[kobiraaz]

You are again displaying your inability to use common sense. There were plenty of incidents of ISIS attacking civilians even when you wrote that in 2014. They were also very clear with what they wanted. So don't try to justify your support through technicalities. Most of us knew what they were even back then. You were wrong and it is better to admit that and move on if you have truly moved on.

Ah I stopped posting Supporting their advance against Assad when Kidnapped Yazidi women came out and published their ordeal. You see, opinion changes. I consider ISIS terrorists now, USA don't consider Modi butcher anymore..... Move on.......

What was the make and calibre?

Just a rivolver. I don't know.

 

[asad71]

I understand UR logic but one shouldn't be punished for other's mistake/wrong/crime. And all the Italians and Japanese were actually helping us for economic upliftment. So intent didn't match impact anyway and IND became the ultimate beneficiary.

1.I undrestand your point of course. But here we are trying a dispassionate analysis of this incideence - which cannot be done in isolation of either time or space. Let us try and gauge what was working in their skull and how their heart had beat.
2.Since Bharat has been the great beneficiary of what has been going on, Bharat will never reign in the blood hound it has let loose on us. SHW/BAL will enjoy added support of the unapologetic Butchers of Muslims who are ruling Bharat.

 

[Spectre]

1.For a comprehensive analysis, one needs to start from Bush Jr's declaration of a crusade just after 9/11. Standing flanked by Donald Rumsfield and Dick Chenny he proclaimed this as the leader of WCC (Western Christian Civilization). Consider also the innumberable instances where Muslim youth have been lured, trapped, brain washed and then let loose.A Muslim in distress anywhere in the world arouses sympathy in all Muslims. The killings and destruction in Afghnistan for no apparent reason (9/11 was an inside job), the killings of Saddam and Gaddafi, the massacers of Libyans, Iraqis, Palstinians, Syrians and other Muslims are resented by the Muslim youth everywhere. The treatment meted out to the Muslims by the Western-Zionist media is another cause of frustration.
2.SHW/BAL has let loose a reign of terror. The fascist regime has gagged the media. Judiciary is totally subservient to to the ruling party. Administration is politicized. The Police has taken the role storm troopers of the ruling party. As such recruitments are mostly from BAL's youth cadre, from SHW's own district and from non-Muslims who constitute BAL's vote bank. In such a situation there is no institution or space where people can air grievences or seek justice.
3. To quell the ising miltancy, India needs to simply withdraw her unqualified support to SHW and her cohort. We are a nation which has sacrificed huge for independence. We will not loose this easily just because India supported us in '71 and hosted SHW family for 7 years after her father was assasinated. People of BD are highly poitical conscious. They resent any outsourcing of sovereignty or defence and foreign relations to others.

@Oscar @waz This crosses the bound of civilized conversation.

1 Proclaiming 9/11 as an insider job where 1000s of innocents Americans died.

2. Blaming India for an act of terror committed by an internal BDeshi terrorist. This same poster had earlier justified the act of terrorism in Dhaka by terming it as "enlightenment" which has since been deleted

This kind of drivel expected out of a troll IDs but to see someone tagged as professional sprouting terrorist propaganda reflects rather poorly on the forum and it's administrators.

I understand many Pakistanis and disfranchised Bangladeshis may have an axe to grind with India and hence are freely entertained but sometimes the mask comes off and the terrorist within shines through.

 

[Devil Soul]

Bangladesh police say may have killed hostage by mistake in cafe siege
By Reuters / AFP
Published: July 5, 2016
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A Bangladeshi woman walks past a banner that reads "We stand with the bereaved" in a street near an upscale restaurant which was the site of a bloody siege that ended in the death of seventeen dead foreigners and five Bangladeshis, including two policemen, in Dhaka on July 5, 2016. PHOTO: AFP

DHAKA: Bangladeshi police said on Tuesday security forces may have shot dead a hostage by mistake during a siege of a Dhaka cafe on the weekend, believing he was one of the attackers.

Saiful Islam, a senior police official in Dhaka, said Saiful Islam Chowkidar, a pizza maker at the Holey Artisan restaurant, was among six men who were killed by the police on Saturday when officers stormed the eatery to end a 12-hour siege.

Hostage-takers were from Bangladesh group, not Islamic State: minister

It was one of the deadliest militant attacks in Bangladesh, where Islamic State and al Qaeda have claimed a series of killings of liberals and members of religious minorities in the past year. The government has dismissed those claims, as it did the Islamic State claim of responsibility for Friday’s attack.

Witnesses recounted how a massive gunfight erupted on Saturday morning as more than 100 commandos launched the rescue operation, nearly 11 hours after the siege began at around 9:30 pm.

Thirteen hostages were rescued in total, some of whom were rushed to a military hospital.

The father of one of the survivors was told by his son how the hostage-takers separated the locals from foreigners.

Indian teenager among 20 killed in Dhaka cafe siege

The attack, by far the deadliest of a recent wave of killings claimed by IS or a local al Qaeda offshoot, was carried out in the upmarket Gulshan neighbourhood which is home to the country’s elite and many embassies.

Last month authorities launched a crackdown on local radicals, arresting more than 11,000 people but critics allege the arrests were arbitrary or designed to silence political opponents.

Bangladesh’s main Islamist party has been banned from contesting polls and most of its leaders have been arrested or else executed after recent trials over their role in the 1971 war of independence from Pakistan.

 

[Nilgiri]

@Oscar @waz This crosses the bound of civilized conversation.

1 Proclaiming 9/11 as an insider job where 1000s of innocents Americans died.

2. Blaming India for an act of terror committed by an internal BDeshi terrorist. This same poster had earlier justified the act of terrorism in Dhaka by terming it as "enlightenment" which has since been deleted

This kind of drivel expected out of a troll IDs but to see someone tagged as professional sprouting terrorist propaganda reflects rather poorly on the forum and it's administrators.

I understand my Pakistanis and disfranchised Bangladeshis may have an axe to grind with India and hence are freely entertained and but sometimes the mask comes off and the terrorist within shines through.

Free speech bro. Though I agree there are bounds, it is up to mods to decide if he is overstepping them here. It is indeed sad if he is allowed to keep his title of "professional".....but I do not think he should be censored.

It is very important for people to know about what kind of mindset some people have....mostly so they can then challenge themselves to never follow such people to the depths of mental depravity they have reached.

 

[Spectre]

Free speech bro. Though I agree there are bounds, it is up to mods to decide if he is overstepping them here. It is indeed sad if he is allowed to keep his title of "professional".....but I do not think he should be censored.

It is very important for people to know about what kind of mindset some people have....mostly so they can then challenge themselves to never follow such people to the depths of mental depravity they have reached.

What rubbish. His words would draw ignorant like flame does moths.

Remember his words and the tag bestowed on him validate the fears and conspiracies propagating through out the Muslim world. You may find his speech inane, inconsequential and ridiculous and therefore dismiss it as paranoia but there are million others who will not.

Therefore it is important to stop this ballooney in it's infancy

 

[Nilgiri]

What rubbish. His words would draw ignorant like flame does moths.

Remember his words and the tag bestowed on him validate the fears and conspiracies propagating through out the Muslim world. You may find his speech inane, inconsequential and ridiculous and therefore dismiss it as paranoia but there are million others who will not.

Therefore it is important to stop this ballooney in it's infancy

If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all.