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India is a FAILURE...!!!

India's 'most wanted' gaffe will cost
By Sudha Ramachandran

BANGALORE - A list of 50 most-wanted terrorists that India was hoping to use to pressure Pakistan has ended up deeply embarrassing the country. It turns out that at least two people on the list that Delhi alleged were fugitives from Indian law and being sheltered in Pakistan, are in fact in India.

India handed over the list to Pakistan during home secretary-level talks in March. In the wake of Osama bin Laden's killing in a safe house in Abbottabad on May 2 and Pakistan coming under international criticism for sheltering the al-Qaeda chief for at least six years, India decided to draw world attention yet again to Pakistan's sheltering of top terrorists wanted in India - it made the list public.

This list includes some of the biggest names in terrorist circles and the underworld. Topping it is Lashkar-e-Taiba founder Hafiz Saeed. Others include Major Iqbal, a suspected serving Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) officer who also figures in the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation indictment in a Chicago court in connection with the 2008 Mumbai terror attack; Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Maulana Masood Azhar, the prime suspect in a 2001 attack on India's parliament; Illyas Kashmiri, a former Pakistani commando who is being mentioned now as a possible successor to Osama bin Laden and chief of Hizbul Mujahideen, the largest militant organization in Kashmir, Syed Salahuddin.

Among those wanted for their role in the 1993 serial blasts in Mumbai that killed 273 people are underworld don Dawood Ibrahim Kaskar and his associates Memon Ibrahim alias Tiger Memon, Shaikh Shakeel alias Chhota Shakeel, Memon Ayub Abdul Razak, Anis Ibrahim Kaskar Shaikh, Anwar Ahmed Haji Jamal and Mohammed Ahmed Dosa.

The names of the 2008 Mumbai terror attack case accused Sajid Majid, Major Sameer Ali, Sayed Abdul Rehman alias Pasha and Abu Hamza also figure in the list.

India has often accused Pakistan of sheltering its most wanted. Indeed, several who figure in this list, such as Saeed, are often seen addressing public rallies in Pakistani cities.

But it turns out that at least two of the "fugitives" on the list are in India.

Wazhul Kamar Khan, who figures at number 41, is out on bail and living with his family in Thane, a Mumbai suburb. Accused of involvement in at least four blasts that date back to 2002-03, he was on the run for around seven years but in May last year he was arrested in Mumbai, only to be let out on bail three months later.

Feroz Abdul Rashid Khan alias Hamza, number 24 on the list, is cooling his heels as in Mumbai's Arthur Road jail. An accused in the 1993 Mumbai blasts case, Feroz was on the run until his arrest in February last year.

The Indian government, while embarrassed, responded with airy disdain to the revelations. Home Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram said, "There was a genuine human error in not updating the list." He added it was not such a "monumental mistake" of "calamitous consequences".

Even if the errors will not have "calamitous consequences", their impact on efforts to get Pakistan to stop sheltering anti-India terrorists and fugitives could be serious. A problem that is perhaps among the most serious confronting Indian people and the state has been turned by the government into a farce.

In the past, Pakistan's stock response to India's most wanted lists has been to deny that they were in Pakistan. Worse, it has been dismissive of evidence provided. In February 2005 for instance, when India handed over files containing among other things evidence of involvement of Pakistani nationals in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks - the dossiers provided even addresses where the terrorists were staying - Pakistan's Foreign Secretary Salman Basheer famously dismissed it as "literature", not evidence.

Now with India making a huge blunder over the presence of two "fugitives", Islamabad will be in a position to be even more dismissive of India's allegations. Next time Indian officials hand over a most-wanted list, Pakistani officials could gently remind them to circulate the list first among India's own law-enforcement and investigative agencies.

For decades India has complained of being at the receiving end of Pakistan-sponsored terrorism. Delhi often complains that its drawing of global attention to Islamabad's provision of sanctuary to terrorists has never been taken seriously.

The goof over the most-wanted list provides answers to why India's allegations are not taken as seriously as they should be. It is weakened from within by a bureaucracy and a ruling class that lack professionalism, many of whom are at best incompetent and inefficient.

Since the 2008 Mumbai terror attack and particularly after the killing of Bin Laden by US Special Forces, a section of Indian security experts has been calling on the government to carry out "surgical strikes" to "take out" anti-India terrorists who are enjoying sanctuary in Pakistan. India's army chief General V K Singh boasted that "all three arms of the [Indian] military were competent" to carry out an operation similar to the one conducted by the US at Abbottabad.

On what intelligence would such a "surgical strike" be based? Obviously, those carrying out the strike would need to know the exact location of the terrorist. But India lacks such information. It doesn't have much of a clue regarding even those who are in its custody.

Indian analysts have blamed the blunder on the casual attitude of the internal security establishment to updating and maintaining records and to the failure of officials to follow procedures, whether it is with regard to preparing important documents and dossiers or carrying out investigations.

In the unseemly haste to embarrass Pakistan, officials did not double-check the names on the most-wanted list.

But more importantly, there is a problem in the way India conducts diplomacy with Pakistan. As The Hindu points out in an editorial:
When it comes to India's relations with Pakistan, or any country for that matter, the sole window for public pronouncements and even unofficial briefings ought to be the Ministry of External Affairs or the Prime Minister's Office. What we have instead is a free-for-all in which top generals, bureaucrats, and even defense scientists feel free to make statements - or plant stories - that have a crucial bearing on foreign policy.
By making public the most-wanted list, India's investigative agencies were hoping to embarrass Pakistan. By not doing their homework thoroughly before they sent off the list to Pakistan and then went to the media with it, they ended up shooting the Indian government in the foot. Years of painstaking effort to draw attention to Pakistan's support to fugitives and terrorists was destroyed in the process.

As the Hindu editorial observes in conclusion, "The error should also serve as a reminder to our intelligence agencies and internal security bureaucracy that their time is best spent getting their house in order rather than hamming it on a diplomatic stage for which they have neither talent nor aptitude."

They set out to embarrass Pakistan but ended up with egg on their face.

Sudha Ramachandran is an independent journalist/researcher based in Bangalore. She can be reached at sudha98@hotmail.com

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Will it happen?

Chidambaram should quit for terror list errors: BJP

Lucknow, May 20 (IANS) The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) Friday said union Home Minister P. Chidambaram should resign for putting out an erroneous terror list of India’s 50 Most Wanted men hiding in Pakistan that ‘weakened the country’s strong case against terrorism before the world’.

‘It’s not a human error, it’s a criminal error. Taking it into account, the home minister has no moral right to continue for even a second,’ BJP national vice president Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi told reporters here.

‘The manner in which India’s case against terrorism has been weakened, the home minister should not be allowed to continue with the post. If the prime minister has any concern over India’s security. He should immediately intervene into the matter and dismiss the home minister,’ he added.

The Indian government was left red-faced after it put out a list of its 50 Most Wanted hiding in Pakistan, but it contained the name of a man who was actually living in India’s Thane city. It also had the name of another man who is lodged in a Mumbai jail.

Launching a scathing attack on Congress president Sonia Gandhi, Naqvi alleged that her party has colluded with the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) and the Samajwadi Party (SP) for vested interests.

‘In her Varanasi rally, she (Sonia Gandhi) referred to Uttar Pradesh as ‘andher nagari’ (dark city)…If UP government is andher nagari, her central government is ‘chaupat raja’ (incompetent king),’ said Naqvi.
‘Be it the Congress, BSP or SP…All the three are vying to acquire the top post in terms of corruption. Moreover, when it comes to deprive farmers of their rights, BSP and Congress function in a same manner…Like the Congress-led central government, the Uttar Pradesh’s ruling BSP is giving 100 percent discount on corruption,’ he alleged.
About the BJP’s upcoming national executive meet in Lucknow, Naqvi said, ‘Over 350 BJP leaders, including senior leaders like L.K. Advani, Murli Manohar Joshi and chief ministers of the BJP-ruled states would attend the meeting from June 3-5.’

Chidambaram should quit for terror list errors: BJP News
 
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The super-power India withdraws terror list....:mamba:

CBI withdraws ' 50 most wanted' list from website, says document being reviewed

May 20, 2011, 12.05pm IST

NEW DELHI: The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) on Friday admitted to goofing up on its 'most wanted' list, that was to be handed over to Pakistan, and has now withdrawn the list from its website.

The investigating agency has also removed the Red Corner Notice linked to the list for the time being.

"The entire list is being reviewed. We have no plan to recall the list from Pakistan," Secretary, Internal Security in the Home Ministry, U K Bansal, told reporters.

While referring to the CBI's action to suspend and transfer some officials responsible for the goof up, he said responsibility has been fixed and action has been taken.

Bansal also said the home ministry would conduct an exercise to ensure that there is no such mistake in the future.

Earlier, CBI Director A P Singh has ordered a complete review of the Interpol wing and the most wanted list would be thoroughly scrutinised in consultation with state police and other agencies.

Feroz Rashid Khan named in India's most wanted list of terrorists allegedly hiding in Pakistan was found to be in Arthur Road Jail facing trial in the 1993 serial blasts case. Listed in the dossier as the criminal No 24 - Feroz - was shown as a wanted accused in the blasts case along with the absconding mafia don Dawood Ibrahim.

Earlier, the case of Wazhul Kamar Khan being in the list had also left the government red faced. Khan, who was arrested last year for his alleged role in the 2003 Mulund train blasts, lives in Mumbai suburb Thane's Waghle Estate with his mother, wife and children, after being let off on bail.

CBI withdraws ' 50 most wanted' list from website, says document being reviewed - Times Of India
 
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Terror and error and India same thing. :cheesy::shout::fie:

Were it not for our security establishment's love of schadenfreude, the public embarrassment of including in a list of 50 ‘most wanted' terrorists supposedly hiding in Pakistan the name of a man who is very much in India could have been avoided.

Despite living in Thane and making regular court appearances, Wazhul Kamar Khan, an accused in the 2003 Mulund train blast, figured as Number 41 in the fugitives list India handed over to Pakistani Interior Ministry officials in March. The Pakistanis took away the list and there the matter might well have ended. But it was the desire to add to Islamabad's discomfiture in the days after U.S. special forces killed Osama bin Laden deep inside Pakistan that led Indian officials to rake up the list and plant a story about it in the media. Their aim, presumably, was to remind the world that Pakistan continues to harbour terrorists of all sorts, a completely unnecessary move given the prevailing international perceptions post-Abbottabad. If anything, the leaking of the list was a petty ‘bilateral' gambit that detracted from the ‘global' dimension of the Pakistani military's dalliance with terrorism. That it also contained a serious error which Pakistan is likely to use to question India's facts is unforgivable.

Truth to tell, the goof-up over Mr. Khan's whereabouts is part of a wider pathology afflicting the Indian system: the lack of professionalism in the conduct of security and foreign policy.

When it comes to India's relations with Pakistan, or any country for that matter, the sole window for public pronouncements and even unofficial briefings ought to be the Ministry of External Affairs or the Prime Minister's Office. What we have instead is a free-for-all in which top generals, bureaucrats, and even defence scientists feel free to make statements — or plant stories — that have a crucial bearing on foreign policy. Army chief V.K. Singh and DRDO head V.K. Saraswat have both publicly boasted about India's ability to mount an Abbottabad-type operation. The Pakistani military, under fire at home for the OBL fiasco, latched on to General Singh's statement and used it to stoke nationalist fears about the threat posed by India. Last week, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh wisely noted he could not be expected to discuss military matters in front of the media. But it is not clear the message has gone down.

As far as the ‘50 most wanted' list is concerned, the error should also serve as a reminder to our intelligence agencies and internal security bureaucracy that their time is best spent getting their house in order rather than hamming it on a diplomatic stage for which they have neither talent nor aptitude.

The Hindu : Opinion / Editorial : Terror and error
 
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I pity those who even think of india as a serious country especially Bush & Co. whose H1-B fraud policies have destroyed the american tech industry and looted americans out of their jobs...now even the goras are complaining about economic terrorism by one specific caste of people stealing their tech and industry.
 
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I pity those who even think of india as a serious country especially Bush & Co. whose H1-B fraud policies have destroyed the american tech industry and looted americans out of their jobs...now even the goras are complaining about economic terrorism by one specific caste of people stealing their tech and industry.

But economic terrorism is nothing compared to real terrorism exported by Pak .
Lost money can be earned by lost life can nvr be earned back
 
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But economic terrorism is nothing compared to real terrorism exported by Pak .
Lost money can be earned by lost life can nvr be earned back

So you think India has been all innocent and it has not done state terrorism internally and externally?
 
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I donot think India has any face left to tell Pakistan about Terror emancipation, and all that Hindu mantra. India a Super-power, filled with poverty, corruption, nepotism should look to fix itself. Pakistan too needs to fix some of those things. Oh, now Indians are busy, Euro-Fighters are coming too now.

It would be helpful if India stops its terrorism inside Pakistan for so many years. period.
 
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Updates.....

Pakistan rejects India list, returns to India for rectification


ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has returned Indian list of most wanted terrorists to India with some objections and asked her to recheck it once again that how many persons included in the list were still in India.

The sources told Online that the list was handed over Pakistan by Indian authorities on 2 May in which the names of 50 alleged terrorists were included, which according to India were involved in different subversive activities there. India demand Pakistan that these persons may be handed over to her.

“But after taking thorough review Pakistan has objected that one terrorist out of list was arrested from India, while the other was already in the custody of Indian intelligence agency CBI, which shows the negligence of Indian authority in preparing the list. India may ensure that no other person included in the list, was not on the Indian Territory before again handing over to Pakistan”, he added.

The source asked India that if Khan Wazhal and Irfan Ahmad Feroze were in India then why their names were incorporated in the list as it is very much possible that some more persons were residing in India but the list contained their names.

India had given the list to Pakistan in the first week of current month including the names of Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, Daud Ibrahim, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Memon Ibrahim, Sajid Mehmood, Syed Abdul Rehman, Major(R) Iqbal, Ilyas Kashmiri, Rashid, Abdullah, Major Sameer Ali, Sheikh Shakil, Memon Ayub, Anees Ibrahim, Kaskar Sheikh, Anwar Ahmed, Munaf Abdul, Muhammad Tainoor, Muhammad Ahmad Dosa, Javed Patel, Saleem Abdul, Riaz Abu Bakar Khattri, Khan Bashir, Yaqoob Khan, Muhammad Shafi, Irfan Ahmed Feroze Abdul, Ishaq Atta, Sagar Sabir Ali, Aftab Batki, Maulana Muhammad Yousaf Shah, Azim Cheema, Syed Zaib-ud-Din, Ibrahim Athar, Azhar Yousaf, Mistiri Zahoor, Saeed Shahid, Shakir Muhammad, Abdul Rauf, Amin Ullah Kahn , Safi Mufti, Nachan Akmal, Khan Wazhal, Yaqoob Khan, Lakhbeer Singh, Paramjeet Singh, Wadha Singh, Addu Hamza and Ameer Raza Khan.

IN this connection when contacted Spokesperson of Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Tehmina Janjua, said that Pakistan sough clarification from India about the mistakes in the list. She said that Pakistan would review the matter, when India will give right list to Pakistan.

ONLINE - International News Network
 
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