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@bluesky @BananaRepublicUK

India has more Muslims than BD. Even if we assume that the proportion of weaver communities among IMs is the same as BD M still we can have as many skilled weavers as BD. Besides, even Hindus have weaver communities and even more people from non traditional communities can take it up. It is no rocket science.

Hence you don’t see Muslims in certain professions.

This is untrue, and it is counterproductive to be propagating stereotypes.

Regards
 
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@bluesky @BananaRepublicUK

India has more Muslims than BD. Even if we assume that the proportion of weaver communities among IMs is the same as BD M still we can have as many skilled weavers as BD. Besides, even Hindus have weaver communities and even more people from non traditional communities can take it up. It is no rocket science.

Hence you don’t see Muslims in certain professions.

This is untrue, and it is counterproductive to be propagating stereotypes.

Regards

Indian Muslims have had to “evolve” in order to survive.

They no longer have Muslim characteristics.

Many have even stopped eating beef out of fear.
 
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@Turingsage

Making chadis for the world....

Anything which brings in forex and provides employment for millions of poor people, particularly women, is not something to be sneered at. Lets hope millions of Indians from the BIMARU and Eastern states get into chaddi stitching too.

Regards

This is no sneer. The lifting of women is more than commendable and a lesson for South Asia. Nor is Chaddi stitching a worthless profession.

HOWEVER

The idea that this is a glorious technological leap compared to the breadth and depth of India's still nascent technological achievement's is a laughable proposition.
 
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@BananaRepublicUK

Kola bhai,

They no longer have Muslim characteristics. Many have even stopped eating beef out of fear.

Ability to stitch clothes doesnt seem to be in the list of verboten activities for IMs. Now, I dont know whether not eating beef impairs their weaving abilities. Doesnt seem plausible. If you had argued that not eating beef impairs their abilities as fast bowlers, I may have been tempted to agree.

Regards
 
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@BananaRepublicUK

Kola bhai,

They no longer have Muslim characteristics. Many have even stopped eating beef out of fear.

Ability to stitch clothes doesnt seem to be in the list of verboten activities for IMs. Now, I dont know whether not eating beef impairs their weaving abilities. Doesnt seem plausible. If you had argued that not eating beef impairs their abilities as fast bowlers, I may have been tempted to agree.

Regards

They are shedding anything that makes them visible to Hinduvta mob.

That includes the professions they traditionally occupied.

Few weeks ago I posted an article from the London Financial Times - about how BJP is putting Muslims into ghettos by intimidating anyone who is willing to rent/sell to Muslims.

Financial Times described how it is being systematically implemented in Delhi.
 
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So, what is your point? Do you think it is a fiction writing contest in that I will write every chapter of every Muslim or Hindu group in two-sentence writing?

The thing is India with many facilities from the GoI has been unable to explore the garments sector, and you think a few scattered Muslims can do it. Very strange.

We also have weaver people. They only weave traditional wear like Sari, Lungi, Dhoti, and other traditional wear.

Anyway, we have a long tradition of stitching clothes that Hindus do not have. It is true throughout the Sub-continent.

Before Muslims brought the art of stitching clothes to India, Indians wore non-stitched clothing.

Thus the propagation of Sarees, Dhotis, Uttariyas etc.

It's plain and simple.

@bluesky

Hindus are traditionally Dhobi and barbers. How can Indian Dhobi Hindus learn our traditional stitching ability so fast?

After reading this post of yours, I am somewhat more sympathetic to the opinion of UKB Dada (@UKBengali) or Kola bhai (@bananarepublic) regarding you.

Surely, you know that about 15% of Indians are Muslims and this percentage is more than 20% in Assam, Bengal, UP and Bihar. What you may not know is that a large number of them are Ansaris (weavers) by caste, many others belong to artisanal caste like blacksmiths, potters, etc There are many Hindu weaver communities as well.

Regards

I personally would hardly give a flying Rat's behind about whatever any False Flagger Indian Sanghi says about me or @bluesky bhai...
 
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Before Muslims brought the art of stitching clothes to India, Indians wore non-stitched clothing.

Thus the propagation of Sarees, Dhotis, Uttariyas etc.

It's plain and simple.

Still peddling fantasies and lies from your madrasa education I see.
Hate. for all is siren songs. is no substitute for a real education

The History of Sewing​

1 comment JUL 17, 2018
Sewing is one of our favourite things here at Hot Pink Haberdashery. It’s a fantastic and calming pastime (considering all goes to plan of course!) and it produces some of our favourite haberdashery pieces. Sewing is a staple of what we do here and what we help facilitate you to do too - from clothing to cushions, bedding to baby shower presents, sewing is absolutely pivotal in within haberdashery.
Whilst we know how to sew and what it can do for us, what do we actually know about the history of sewing? The answer for us was: not very much - until we did our research! Sewing has a vast and interesting history, first arising in the Paleolithic era! We want to share this pretty cool history with you so that when you’re working away on your sewing machine or hand sewing your favourite stitch, you can remember this…
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What is sewing?

Of course we know sewing as it is today, but breaking it right down to its fundamentals, sewing is the craft of fastening or attaching objects using stitches made with a needle and thread. As mentioned, it is one of the oldest textiles arts and it started in the caves. Before the more advanced spinning or weaving came about, archaeologists believe that our Stone Age ancestors across Asia and Europe sewed fur and skin clothing using bone, antler and Ivory needles, using ‘thread’ made from various animal body parts such as sinew, catgut and veins (thankfully that’s not the case anymore…).
Unsurprisingly, for thousands of years, sewing was always done by hand until the invention of the sewing machine in the 19th century and the rise of technology which led to mass production and export of sewn objects. Hand sewing is still practised around the world today and is associated with high quality tailoring, couture fashion and custom dress making (as well as being used as a means of creative expression like us!).
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Origins of sewing
Sewing has been a necessity in cultures and societies for millions of years. It was used to stitch together animal hides for clothing, warmth and shelter. A great example of this is looking at Inuits, who would use sinew from caribou and those American Plains and Canadian Prairies used sophisticated sewing methods to assemble tipi shelters. Moving around the world, sewing was combined with the weaving of plant leaves in Africa to create baskets; thin strips of palm leaf would be used as thread to stitch wider strips of palm leaf to make the coil.
Moving North East from Africa, the weaving of cloth from natural fibres was originated around 4000 BC and even earlier, during the Neolithic Age was when the sewing of cloth accompanied this development.
Middle Ages
During this time, Europeans who could afford it, would employ seamstresses and tailors. Sewing was mainly a woman’s occupation and all sewing before the 19th century tended to be practical. Clothing was expensive so women had the important job of extending the longevity of items of clothing. Sewing was used for mending, reusing (such as making quilts etc.). Making clothes from scratch was long and tedious (weaving pattern making, cutting, alterations..) which meant that women were able to barter their expertise in particular skill with one another.
Decorative needlework such as embroidery was a highly valued skill at the time and from the Middle Ages up until the 17th century, sewing tools such as needles, pins and pincushions were included in the trousseaus of many European brides. Decirative embroidery was valued in countries and cultures all over the world - from Ireland to China, Morocco to Western Asia, cultures independent from each other found themselves with the same styles of stitching - pretty awesome!

Industrial Revolution
When we think of the The Industrial Revolution we think of heavy machinery, smoke and metal production - not necessarily of the textile industry that was born from it. The Industrial Revolution shifted the production of textiles from the household to the mills. The first sewing machine was patented in 1790 by Thomas Saint and but the early 1840s, other early sewing machines began to appear and by the 1850s, Isaac Singer developed the first sewing machine that not only surpassed the productivity of a seamstress or tailor, but could also be used at home.
Following this, textile sweatshops full of underpaid sewing
machine operators grew into entire business districts in large cities, including London which further supported the industry. Mainly full of women working up to 14 hour days to earn enough to support themselves, this was a super tough time for working women. Tailors became associated with higher-end clothing and tailor shops popped up around Savile Row and coming into the 20th century and beyond, Savile’s tailor businesses are still flourishing.
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What’s sewing today?
In the 20th century, sewing machines became more affordable to the working class so the demand for sewing patterns grew. An American tailor and manufacturer called Ebenezer Butterick created paper patterns that could be traced and used by home sewers. These became wildly popular and off the back of the demand, several pattern companies soon established themselves. As some of you might remember, women’s magazines also carried sewing patterns for much of the 20th century but declined when ready-made clothing became a necessity when more women joined the paid workforce, leaving them with less time to sew.
Today, the low price of ready-made clothing in high street shops and online, means that home sewing is largely confined to hobbyists in the Western world with the exception of cottage industries in custom dressmaking and upholstery!

Hot Pink Haberdashery
 
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Coming back to the OP and why he posted the thread - Tata is in Bangladesh precisely because they DO NOT HAVE this cutting edge quantum arc furnace technology. I don't think any other company in India does either. They want to induct this technology to make better quality steel, like Bangladesh does.

Why is it so hard for bhakts to understand this and swallow their indignant pride?
 
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I don't think any other company in India does either. They want to induct this technology to make better quality steel, like Bangladesh does.

They dont at the moment. But the depth and scale of India's steel making blows away Bangladesh's much smaller production.

India has tens of steel making companies. The SEVENTH largest steel maker in India makes more steel than the WHOLE OF BANGLADESH.
India has been making steel from 1870. Tata Steel making started in 1907
So India obviously will want to upgrade the some of its older industries.
A list of best of the top 20 steel makers in India

1. Tata Steel Ltd.​

Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

With an annual crude steel capacity of 33MT, TATA Steel is one multinational company among the top steel companies in India established in the year 1907. With its base stationed at Jamshedpur, it has had a global trade presence for decades. Formerly known as TISCO, the group recorded a consolidated turnover of 21.06 billion US dollars in FY 2021-22.
It is ranked as the second-largest domestic producer of steel with an annual capacity of 13 MT. It has posed its active presence in around 50 countries with rapid expansions of its industrial bases in 26 countries including Malaysia and Thailand.
TATA group has held significant shares in TATA steel with 1 million shareholders holding about 21% of its stake. TATA Steels is amongst the top steel companies in India offering employment opportunities to thousands of people. Also has gained the reputation for being the best privately undertaken company nationally.

2. JSW Steel Ltd.​

Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

JSW Group, headquartered in Mumbai, Maharashtra is the second-largest producer of commercial steel among the companies undertaken by the private sector as of March 2022.
Producing around 111.43 MT every year, its provisional crude steel production ranges from around 1.8%-2.4 % of the total steel production in the corresponding period of last year.
The group has set global footprints in countries including UAE, Malaysia, and Canada. It’s the company that hosted the first Greenfield project in Vijayanagar, Karnataka with its other plants in Vasind, Salem, and Tolve.

3. Steel Authority of India Limited (SAIL)​

Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

Based in New Delhi, SAIL is owned and operated by the Government of India. With an annual production of 16.30 metric tons of steel, SAIL is the 20th largest producer globally and the first among the largest steel companies in India.
SAIL owns five integrated steel plants in Bhilai, Rourkela, Durgapur, Bokaro, and Burnpur with three special plants and a Ferroalloy plant in Chandrapur. It has acquired a reputation for being the best exporter of completed steel in the domestic market.
It’s expanding with an insightful approach towards modernizing followed by an emphasis on the state of the art of green technology. It has its central units spread into different fields like Engineering and technology. It holds the toughest stance, accommodating thousands of employers and employees working in different domains of the group.

4. Essar Steel​

Essar Steel is one of the finest steel companies in India on this list and a global producer of steel with a footprint in India, the Middle East, and Asia. The company is a fully integrated flat carbon steel manufacturer which is from iron ore to ready-to-supply steel products in the market.
The current capability of the company is 10 million Tonnes per annum (MTPA). They mainly supply finished steel products to highly discerning customer sectors, for instance, engineering, construction, white goods, automotive, and shipbuilding. Essar Steel is one of the largest exporters of flat steel products to demanding markets such as Europe and the United States as well.
Some clients of this steel company are Hyundai, Swaraj Mazda, the Konkan Railway, Maruti Suzuki, and Caterpillar. The company has 8 MTPA plants at Bailadilla (Chhattisgarh) and a 12 MTPA plant at Dabuna (Odisha), both strategically established to leverage the rich iron ore deposits of the respective states.

5. Hindalco Ltd.​

Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

Hindalco is the leader in copper and aluminum. It is the flagship company of the Aditya Birla group. Hindalco is the world’s largest aluminum producer with consolidated revenue of 18M USD. Today with its footprints set in around 10 countries, it’s one of Asia’s leading copper and aluminum producers.
Hindalco, through its wholly-owned subsidiary AV Metals Inc., acquired 75,415,536 common shares of Novelis, representing 100 percent of the issued and outstanding common shares. Immediately after closing, AV Metals Inc. transferred the common shares of Novelis to its wholly-owned subsidiary AV Aluminum Inc.
When Hindalco made this bid in 2007 this became the largest Indian investment in North America and the second-largest overseas investment by an Indian company.

6. NMDC​

Top Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

NMDC established and undertaken by the public sector, is the largest producer of Iron ore in the country with an annual consumption volume of 16 MT. It was set up in 1958 and since then has discovered and relished non-fuel mineral resources.
Actively working in magnetizing and diamond mining, it has been recognized under Schedule-A over the past six decades.
With its total income of around 115 crores, it has set its footprints in the domestic and international production of steel and export of the same.

7. Jindal Steel and Power Ltd (JSPL)​

Jindal Steel and Power Limited are among the best steel companies in India which is an industrial powerhouse with a dominant presence in the steel, power, mining, and infrastructure sectors.
The company is currently led by Mr. Naveen Jindal and by innovation, setting new standards, and enhancing capabilities, it made its way to the top steel manufacturers of the country.
JSPL currently has a 10 MTPA iron-making capacity and is also ranked as the second-largest value creator in the world. The company has the key projects in Raigarh with a 3.6 MTPA integrated steel plant, 0.6 MTPA wire rod mill, and 1.0 MTPA bar mill. The company owns and operates state-of-the-art facilities in Chhattisgarh, Odisha, and Jharkhand.

8. Rashtriya Ispat Nigam Ltd. (Vizag Steel)​

Top Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

Based in Vishakapatnam, Vizag Steel is one of the most prominent producers of commercial steel. As per the latest annual report, they had shown the highest production and sales.
Vizag Steel has export units on different bases with rectified quality steel production. It has acquired the name of being one of the leading producers with a good profit ratio.
It has thousands of actively working engineers and produces high-quality steel. With good consumer records, the group has also hosted multiple steel plant projects around the country.

9. Maharashtra Seamless Ltd.​

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MAH seamless incorporated in the year 1988 is a flagship company of the well-diversified DP Jindal group. It is mainly indulged in Seamless pipes used in boilers and oil pipes. It also manufactures Electric resistance welded pipes of different sizes.
It has signed contracts with many sectors because of its excelling performance in the production of iron and steel. In the year 2004, it established a joint venture in the country of Romania with an installed capacity of 20,000 TPA.
The company also has a successful solar generation project with plants in over 5 cities and has proven employment records after years of establishment.

10. Electro Steel Castings Ltd.​

Top Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

Electro Steel Castings is the largest producer of Ductile steel iron in the Indian subcontinent, it has a production capacity of 280,000 MT per annum. The current turnover is quite high at around 277 million US dollars. It is ranked one of the top 5 spike iron producers in the world.
Originally established in Kolkata, it is now spread with its branches in different parts of the country and is a leading producer of spun iron pipes in the country. The company got its KITEMARK license from BSI for its spun pipes and fittings.

11. Mukand Steel​

steel manufacturers in India | BizApprise

Mukand Steel is a private company manufacturing steel and sponge iron for a very long time. It has proven its domestic presence with the consumer rate increasing rapidly from the year of establishment.
The Indian-based company is a producer of alloy and stainless steel. It is a flagship company owned by the famous Bajaj group. It has over 3000 employees with an annual turnover of 400M USD.
Initially established in Lahore, it was later moved by the Bajaj group to Mumbai. It also operates a steel plant in Gingera district in collaboration with Hospet steel and has had high employment records since then.

12. ArcelorMittal Nippon Steel India​

steel companies in India | BizApprise

ArcelorMittal Nippon Steel India is one of the leading carbon-steel producers and exporters in the country. Based in India, it has a production volume of around 09 MT every year.
ArcelorMittal Nippon Steel has a higher export-to-import ratio. Has acquired maximum profit values after a few years of establishment.
Essar Steel sold its steel business to Arcelor for 38,896 Cr in December 2019. Although it faced insolvency in the formative years after establishment, it had explored almost every aspect of steel manufacturing like ore benefaction, crude oil production, and galvanizing.

13. Godawari Power & Ispat Ltd.​

steel manufacturers in India | BizApprise

Godawari Power & Ispat is a flagship company of the Raipur-based Hira group of industries and is also an integrated steel manufacturer in India. The company is mainly engaged in the generation of electricity, iron ore mining, and the production of sponge iron.
The company acquired 51.4% shares of the RR groups. It commissioned the setting up of steel plants in two phases in the production of steel billets, sponge iron, and seamless steel for commercial use.
The company acquired 100% of the equity of Krishna Minerals ltd for doing the business of exploration in mines and minerals, which is in the initial stage. It has actively working steel plants based in Odisha and is also a leading employer of the technician lot.

14. Mideast Integrated Steel Limited (MISL)​

Mideast Integrated Steel Limited (MISL) is another one of the top steel companies in India which were incorporated in 1992 with assets in coastal Odisha in eastern India. The company presently operates two 389 cubic meters of Blast Furnaces in its plant at Kalinga Nagar, Odisha, and the hot metal is cast as Pig Iron.
The company secured the Roida iron ore mining lease in the prime iron ore belt of Odisha in1996. MISLs Pig iron plant at Jajpur was successfully commissioned in 2005 and has since been operating uninterrupted. MISL has a strategic alliance with Stemcor, UK, for marketing and financing.
Moreover, the company has a current expansion plan to take the finished steel capacity to 3.5 million tonnes in 2 phases. The finished products will be wire rods and rebars.

15. JSW Ispat Special Products Ltd.​

Top Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

JSW Ispat Special is a subsidiary group of Monnet groups of industries and is a conviction-based industrial conglomerate. It is the second-largest sponge iron and copper producer in Raigarh in the state of Chattisgarh.
With more than 3300 employees, the company also has its shares with the Indian steel board as per the annual reports 2022. Total assets with GEV put its steel value at around 11%.
The growth in the operating profit as per the reports released from the year 2008 to 2021 ranges from around 373 Cr. to 1047 Cr.

16. Jayaswal Neco Industries​

steel manufacturers in India | BizApprise

With its first foundry set up in Nagpur, Jayaswal Neco Industries is among the top steel companies in India that commenced production of cast iron pipes and fittings.
Incorporated in the private sector, it is a flagship company of NECO groups. It is a highly specialized manufacturer of grey iron castings for railway tracks.
With a further increase in demand, it expanded its industrial works by setting up three units.

17. VISA Steel​

VISA Steel is another one of the best Steel companies in India that have set up a 150,000 TPA Ferro Chrome Plant at Kalinganagar in Odhisha. This steel company has facilities including 6 submerged Arc Furnaces with 3×25 MW Power Generating Units.
Moreover, it also offers High Carbon Ferro Chrome as per International Quality Standards for end-use in Stainless Steel and Special Steel manufacturing. The company is headed by Chairman and CEO Mr. Vishambhar Saran and Vice Chairman & MD Mr. Vishal Agarwal.

18. Prakash Industries Ltd.​

Top Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

Established in the year 1980, Prakash Industries is among the top-rated steel companies in India and a diverse producer of steel in India. It was solely set up for steel production but now is a leading producer of PVC pipes and plastic products along with finished and unfinished steel products like sponge iron etc.
Also, waste heat cogeneration and carbon-based steel plants support their steel manufacturing process. It is an ISO-certified organization with a gradation in the line of socially responsible companies of the world.

19. Uttam Galva Steels​

Steel Companies in India | BizApprise

Uttam Galva Steels is the largest galvanized steel producer in the western part of the country.
The Indian-based company procures hot-rolled steel and processes them into CR and further into GP.
With its scope of expanding the Wardha plant’s capacity, Uttam Galva also remains the top producer of CR in the country. It has also established its integrated steel plant in Satara, Maharashtra.
 
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@Bilal9

I don't think any other company in India does either. Why is it so hard for bhakts to understand this and swallow their indignant pride?

I am a bhakt but I have no hesitation in admitting this. In fact until the OP posted this, I wasn't even aware that there was a technology called quantum arc furnace.

@Turingsage

If I may add please, JSPL- one of the companies mentioned in your post- also is one of the few countries outside China which uses syngas made from high ash coal to make steel

Regards
 
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The SEVENTH largest steel maker in India makes more steel than the WHOLE OF BANGLADESH.

The largest steel maker in China produces more steel than ALL OF INDIA COMBINED... Big friggin' whoop. Trying to prove your mettle against Bangladesh, a country one-eighth of your size... are we supposed to be impressed? Figures in Millions of tonnes.

China makes more than a Billion tonnes of steel as a country - and India makes around a tenth of that.

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India has been making steel from 1870. Tata Steel making started in 1907

Yes we know. Sahib started your steel industry. Like everything else. Handed it in a platter. And you still can't run these properly.

Bangladesh just started its local ship-breaking scrap dependent steel making a decade ago, we have a heck of a ways to go, unlike a country whose whole industrial base was provided by the UK hundreds of years ago because of local iron ore in India. In a country the size of one of your smaller states, we break twice as many ships as India does in a year and that is the source of our steel, not billets. Bangladesh ship-breaking is a third of all global activity.

Top five countries according to import of vessel in 2019

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Ignorance is no excuse Dada - this has been true since 2015...

Ahammukir ekta shima thaka dorkar....

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shono dadabhai,
1. 14.64% is not equal to 100% (Oder Tourism ar Health sector amader takai choley) and this is tourism only and that too in 2015.
2. regarding medical tourism, i dont know the figures but i m pretty much sure that "Oder Tourism ar Health sector amader takai choley" wouldnt apply because of following reasons:
a. we dont invite u, we are too hospitable to refuse to the needy guys who dont trust their own doctors. no disrespect.
b. bangladeshi patients visit mostly kolkata, while the western patients visit delhi, bombay and bangalore. anyways we have a lot of sick ppl here too, so in no way our health sector depends on ur countrymen.


and yeah.....tumi thikei koiso...."Ahammukir ekta shima thaka dorkar...."
 
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shono dadabhai,
1. 14.64% is not equal to 100% (Oder Tourism ar Health sector amader takai choley) and this is tourism only and that too in 2015.
2. regarding medical tourism, i dont know the figures but i m pretty much sure that "Oder Tourism ar Health sector amader takai choley" wouldnt apply because of following reasons:
a. we dont invite u, we are too hospitable to refuse to the needy guys who dont trust their own doctors. no disrespect.
b. bangladeshi patients visit mostly kolkata, while the western patients visit delhi, bombay and bangalore. anyways we have a lot of sick ppl here too, so in no way our health sector depends on ur countrymen.


and yeah.....tumi thikei koiso...."Ahammukir ekta shima thaka dorkar...."

Thank you for confirming that bhakts are perfect ingrates and nincompoops as well.

Tell your High commission in Bangladesh to stop groveling about Indian trade and tourism there.

"Bhai ek visa le-kar India jao shopping ke liye - jao na !"

"Bhai please lower tariff for Indian goods in Bangladesh - please! otherwise our Indian workers will starve!"

So enough of this faaltu talk. Just stop shamelessly giving out Indian visas like orders of pao bhajee and pani puri. You can get these Indian visas at kiosks in all major malls in Dhaka. No one even wants Indian Visa and Indian HC is giving them away. Pathetic. :lol:

Confirms what I was talking about.

Faaltu Gareebi Halat third-rate economy, and bhakts acting like they're doing Bangladeshi tourists and shoppers a favor.

Taka ke ditesey karey? Bujhen kisoo? Who is paying whom?

My God these bhakts are some gadhas. Bunch of Bhishwa gadhas.

And Kolkata is no longer the main medical tourism head quarter, Chennai is (or nearby Chennai).

Your information is old and outdated.

The day we stop coming and stop using Indian goods imports, your Kolkata economy will collapse. Your Didi knows that very well.

Nijer desh shomporkey dharona nai - ar khamokha gola-bajee....

Chhera kathai shuye diba-shwapno. Daydreaming laying on the sidewalk.... :rofl:

Not only do our tourists keep Indian tourism alive, they also keep your retail sector alive (mostly in Kolkata Marwari-owned shops and ditto in New Delhi). Look at what's happening. Eibar thela shamlan. :lol:

This is from a Kolkata guy talking to idiot bhakt morons.

 
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