Tamils are not Hindus - Renown Tamil Pontiff

[Joe Shearer]

Is it?


I didn't find you there ...

Cheers, Doc

I didn't want to have 'Joe Shearer' involved in any way with that lot until they had proved that they were bi-partisan.

 

[padamchen]

I didn't want to have 'Joe Shearer' involved in any way with that lot until they had proved that they were bi-partisan.

You getting sneaky in your dotage. Lol

Cheers, Doc

 

[Joe Shearer]

You getting sneaky in your dotage. Lol

Cheers, Doc

No, not that, I didn't feel good exposing this name, that has earned a place of respect for itself, to those canaille.

 

[jamahir]

In the beginning god created the dosa and the idli. The idli was formless and bland, and darkness was over the surface of the dosa, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the idli. Then God said, "Let there be sambar"; and there was sambar. God saw that the sambar was good; and God separated the sambar from the chutney.Then God said, "Let there be potatoes in the midst of the dosa, and let it separate the dosa from the idli."

 

[Hindustani78]

Indian Nation is infact the Aryan nation and its the Aryan nation who are the real nation of Indus Valley Civilization.

Hanuman is considered one of the top devotees of Lord Vishnu in one of his avatars as Lord Rama.One of the hillocks on the Tirumala hill range is also named as Anjanadri.

The darshan of Lord Venkateswara along with Hanuman is considered not only auspicious but also as an high intellectual association. “The appearance of both Lord Rama and Hanuman is said to inspire the pundits for an extensive exploration of Vedic scriptures and promote righteous life style “says Dr. A.V. Ramana Dikshitulu, the chief priest of TTD.

 

[manlion]

Indian Nation is infact the Aryan nation and its the Aryan nation who are the real nation of Indus Valley Civilization.

Hanuman is considered one of the top devotees of Lord Vishnu in one of his avatars as Lord Rama.One of the hillocks on the Tirumala hill range is also named as Anjanadri.

The darshan of Lord Venkateswara along with Hanuman is considered not only auspicious but also as an high intellectual association. “The appearance of both Lord Rama and Hanuman is said to inspire the pundits for an extensive exploration of Vedic scriptures and promote righteous life style “says Dr. A.V. Ramana Dikshitulu, the chief priest of TTD.

Correct the present India = Aryan nation, Dravidian Tamils have no stake in it. Hence Tamilnadu has the right to be freed from 70 yrs of Aryan/Hindián hegemony, which is critical for preserving its native identity/culture. De-linking Tamils from Hindus is the first step in that direction after all, Indians fear Tamils (Dravidians) more than Islamists or Maoist or Dalits

Breaking India
Western Interventions in Dravidian and Dalit Faultlines

India’s integrity is being undermined by three global networks that have well-established operating bases inside India: (i) Islamic radicalism linked with Pakistan, (ii) Maoists and Marxist radicals supported by China via intermediaries such as Nepal, and (iii) Dravidian and Dalit identity separatism being fostered by the West in the name of human rights. This book focuses on the third: the role of U.S. and European churches, academics, think-tanks, foundations, government and human rights groups in fostering separation of the identities of Dravidian and Dalit communities from the rest of India.
https://breakingindia.com/

IVC - dont draw your conclusion early

The Indus language is likely to have belonged to the North Dravidian sub-branch represented today by the Brahui, spoken in the mountain valleys and plateaus of Afghanistan and Baluchistan, the core area of the Early Harappan neolithic cultures, and by the Kurukh spoken in North India from Nepal and Madhya Pradesh to Orissa, Bengal and Assam.

[Originally published as Parpola, Asko (1988) Religion reflected in the iconic signs of the Indus script: penetrating into long-forgotten picto+graphic messages. Visible Religion 6: pp. 114-135.]

 

[Hindustani78]

Breaking India
Western Interventions in Dravidian and Dalit Faultlines

India’s integrity is being undermined by three global networks that have well-established operating bases inside India: (i) Islamic radicalism linked with Pakistan, (ii) Maoists and Marxist radicals supported by China via intermediaries such as Nepal, and (iii) Dravidian and Dalit identity separatism being fostered by the West in the name of human rights. This book focuses on the third: the role of U.S. and European churches, academics, think-tanks, foundations, government and human rights groups in fostering separation of the identities of Dravidian and Dalit communities from the rest of India.
https://breakingindia.com/

IVC - dont draw your conclusion early

Actually here you are talking about the cold war mindset which was more about controlling the natural resources and then using the racial superiority and denying the traditionalist of all the religions and these things have been already mentioned in the Holy scriptures of all the religions.

Great Game is all about this only in which the plan was to target the Aryan nation and show that they are not the people who are on the path of truth but the reality is shows its about the Dharma/Adharma and occupying the holy places of the Aryan nations.

 

[manlion]

Actually here you are talking about the cold war mindset which was more about controlling the natural resources and then using the racial superiority and denying the traditionalist of all the religions and these things have been already mentioned in the Holy scriptures of all the religions.

Great Game is all about this only in which the plan was to target the Aryan nation and show that they are not the people who are on the path of truth but the reality is shows its about the Dharma/Adharma and occupying the holy places of the Aryan nations.

your definition of dharmic or adharmic is subjective

what Tamils want is freedom from Indian occupation - freedom from forced Hindi Imposition, NEET , no Tamil in HC , which are all against Tamils interest, exploitation of Tamilnadu resources - methane/Hydro-Carbon extraction which will turn Tamilnadu into Somalia. Nuclear reactors along Tamilnadu coastline/Sagar Mala project - displacing Tamilnadu fishermen and destroying their livelihood, sponsoring (turning a blind eye to) the killing of Tamilnadu fishermen by Lankan navy etc.

Hypocrite India needs to stop faking its democracy, dharmic image and playing the victim card

 

[Hindustani78]

your definition of dharmic or adharmic is subjective

No, not at all because Holy scriptures have clearly pointed out

what Tamils want is freedom from Indian occupation - freedom from forced Hindi Imposition, NEET , no Tamil in HC , which are all against Tamils interest, exploitation of Tamilnadu resources - methane/Hydro-Carbon extraction which will turn Tamilnadu into Somalia. Nuclear reactors along Tamilnadu coastline/Sagar Mala project - displacing Tamilnadu fishermen and destroying their livelihood, sponsoring (turning a blind eye to) the killing of Tamilnadu fishermen by Lankan navy etc.

Do you want to know more about native Indians even when you are aware who are native Indians ?

Hypocrite India needs to stop faking its democracy, dharmic image and playing the victim card

Problem is occupying and colonization of Indian holy places and you are still saying that Indian Nation is playing victim card and here the same is going on with the Arab Nation.

 

[manlion]

No, not at all because Holy scriptures have clearly pointed out

This is from your holy book

Bhagavad Gita 2.69: What all beings consider as day is the night of ignorance for the wise, and what all creatures see as night is the day for the introspective sage.

What is dharma to you, is adharma to me there can never be common consensus on right vs wrong. To your mob , BG is a holy book , to me its a book that promotes violence and caste discrimination. Hence your brand of dharma is the exact opposite to civilised world.

Do you want to know more about native Indians even when you are aware who are native Indians ?

Problem is occupying and colonization of Indian holy places and you are still saying that Indian Nation is playing victim card and here the same is going on with the Arab Nation.

please enlighten on native Indians, Hindus managing the Bodhgaya Buddhist Tempe is a classic e.g of colonization of Hindus of other religions holy places. The destruction of Jain/Buddhist temples by Hindu Brahmanist terrorism is another e.g of Hindu terrorism on others holy places. The demolition of Babri mosque is a recent e.g of Hindutva terrorism inflicted on others

 

[wiseone2]

why ? definitely not Hinduism, anymore Qs ??.

what gods do Tamils worship ?

 

[Hindustani78]

This is from your holy book

Bhagavad Gita 2.69: What all beings consider as day is the night of ignorance for the wise, and what all creatures see as night is the day for the introspective sage.

What is dharma to you, is adharma to me there can never be common consensus on right vs wrong. To your mob , BG is a holy book , to me its a book that promotes violence and caste discrimination. Hence your brand of dharma is the exact opposite to civilised world.

Prophet Muhammed PBUH Hadees is there that 124,000 Prophets have came with the ultimate truth and Shree Rama and Shree Krishna,Shree Guatam Buddha, Shree Bahubali and others are those who have received the Samita/Waahi via Angel/Dev and according to research there are 313 Messengers have received Samita/Waahi and there have been 60,000 Prophets/Nabi which came to the Yehuda tribes and in Prophet Muhammed Pbuh was not from Yehuda tribes.

please enlighten on native Indians, Hindus managing the Bodhgaya Buddhist Tempe is a classic e.g of colonization of Hindus of other religions holy places. The destruction of Jain/Buddhist temples by Hindu Brahmanist terrorism is another e.g of Hindu terrorism on others holy places. The demolition of Babri mosque is a recent e.g of Hindutva terrorism inflicted on others

Shree Gautam Buddha was from native Indian tribes and even the Jain Avataars such as Shree Mahaveera ,Shree Bahubali and others were from Indian tribes.

Construction of Shree Rama Mandir is national cause which is similar as Somnath mandir. We all are aware who were Ghori, Ghazni and Babur etc and what crimes they all have committed and gone against the religion by adopting the religion.

what gods do Tamils worship ?

Aryans of Indus Valley civilization all worship OM and Aryans of Indus Valley Civilization are having complete knowledge given by the Supreme Creator about Devs/Angels and Asur/Shaytan.

 

[manlion]

what gods do Tamils worship ?

Tamil religion is/was Aaseevaham - this should debunk Aryan/Brahmanist/Hindutva/Hindutani78 lies

‘The Matysa purana mentions about the submergence of many Ancient lands and Cities across the World; It also mentioned about Manu (Manu (Hinduism) – Wikipedia), the King of Dravida along with 7 Maharishi’s escaped the Flood and brought the Aaseevaham knowledge (The Siddha Knowledge predating Vedas and Hinduism) to the very North and later his Son Ikshavaku founded the Ikshavaku Dynasty (Solar Dynasty).

The Manu mentioned in Matysa purana is none other than ‘Manu Chozha Pandya’ (not to confuse with Manu Neethi Chozhan) of Pandyan Dynasty as mentioned in “Thiruvilayadal Puranam” of Sangam Literature in parallel with the Matysa Purana. Even Skanda Puranam mentions a lot about this (Interesting thing to note is that the Sigil of the Pandyan Dynasty is Fish always);

Aaseevaham and Tamil:

Aaseevaham is the name of a widespread religion in ancient India, in the Tamil area (maybe even on Easter Island), which according to some would be the true and authentic source of all religions, including Hinduism. According to Saiva Siddhanta, the Aaseevaham knowledge was given by Lord Shiva as Dakshinamurthy. In Tamilised version, he is called as Aadhi Siddha. In Sanskrit he is known as Aadhi Yogi.