Tamils and Sumerians Among the FIRST to Reach Australia and Antarctica

[itsanufy]

Not sure how closely Mallus understand Tamil but I'm aware their script is quite similar just like how Telugu and Kannada are. I'm Telugu and even though I can read Kannada a lil bit, the meanings of their words are entirely different from ours. I can understand Tamil better but that maybe because a part of my extended family has Tamil lineage


Whatever fits your version but we believe in the concept of "Unity in Diversity" which has worked very well so far and we're able to do well than most homogeneous countries

I stayed 8 years in Hyd. Most of my Andhra friends were able to understand basic Kannada. Its not French and Chinese.

 

[manlion]

You are welcome..so you saw the irony in that comment that guy compared Tamil with Canada and even spelled Canada wrong
You guys are really funny but still you stay sad.. IDK why?
But it is good them who think and believe as part of India... But what I know is Tamils fight in Sri Lanka for their country but then they fight in India...then they leave for Malaysia and Singapore after massacre in their homeland. But if some are happy with India, it is good for them..

This is what you posted

Tamils have a different identity. But they are being forced to live under a another identity.

So far no one in PDF has refuted the above statement , but use affinity to Tamil as a form of distraction. Funny how every PDF Indian suddenly has Tamil blood or relative i.e father is Tamil, mother is Tamil, SIL is Tamil , extended family is Tamil etc or develop love for Tamil

Does it matter matter whether I am Tamil or not ? . I have posted many threads relating to Tamil, have the so called PDF Tamils posted any ?

These fake Tamil sanghis only rebuttal is vulgar retorts -sample this

He he he... I am living my entire life in Tamil Nadu. I have not met one person with the attitude of yours. Poda thevudiya paya...

translation of highlighted sentence "get lost prostitute offspring' , FYI is should paiya not paya , thevidiya not thevudiya living entire life in Tamilnadu yet cant get the basic words right ?

 

[Papa Dragon]

I stayed 8 years in Hyd. Most of my Andhra friends were able to understand basic Kannada. Its not French and Chinese.

It depends on where one resides. Telangana borders Karnataka which is why quite a few people understand Kannada and South Andhrites know Tamil and it's the same with other states as well. No big deal in that

 

[manlion]

No offense, it was too good. Best of the day.
My sis-in-law is a Tamilian married to a Bengali, she is a Madurian, the epitome of Tamil culture. Her dad was in politics and affiliated to DMK. Many times I went to her native. Never got the feeling they have a non Indian something. Even there was a village nearby where at least one people from each family went to army. Don't believe in everything over internet.

DMK and all the Dravidian political parties have sold their souls to the Indian Devil. They corrupt and no longer subscribe to Dravidian ideology. They use Dravidianism as a mask to control and rule Tamils, as most of their politicians and those affiliated to the parties are/were mostly non Tamils e,g MGR, Karunanidhi. Jayalalithaa etc. The present Chief of Dravida Kazhagam - K. Veeramani is a Telugu.

The British Imperialist Army comprised of native who served their white master against their people. No surprise if some Tamil family turn traitors to serve the Indian imperialist master's army. Pakistan/China are India's enemies not Tamils !!

Native sepoys serving the British Army

British native servant

Australian Aborigines’ genetic links with Tamils

Latest scientific evidences have shown that a mix of genes among Australian Aboriginals and Tamils exists. Previous reports showed existence of some gene flow to Australia from India about 12 millennia back.

Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany after studying some samples of genes of Australian aborigines concludes that a link of Dravidian speaking group is 4230 years old. The Indian contribution in Australian genome and Indian ancestry through genetic drift are studied and results are published with a precise period of time by scientific methodology and proved results.

These reports always use the name Indian or Dravidian instead of directly naming Tamil since Tamils are Indians and they speak the earliest dated classical language of Dravidian group of languages.

Some genetic material named M130 haplotype on the Y chromosome (or mitochondrial DNA) in Australian Aboriginals is seen common with Tamil people. It is found that mitochondrial DNA is passed on by mothers without much change over the generations to come. Earlier research by Dr Raghavendra Rao of Anthropological Survey of India was based on the above method of analyzing M- DNA.

Another evidence is available to show that the Tamils who are considered as ancient navigators went to Australia 500 years back. A bell used in ships with Tamil inscriptions found in New Zealand is dated back to 500 years well before the landing of Europeans in Australia in 18th century. In 1836, a woman in New Zealand was found cooking potatoes in this bell using it as a vessel.

Department of Speech Pathology & Audiology, School of Medicine, Flinders University, Adelaide and Research Centre for Linguistic Typology La Trobe University, Melbourne have also recorded considerable evidences based on linguistic tools regarding similarities of Australian aboriginal languages with Tamil and have reported the same.

Perhaps most similar to Australian languages are the Dravidian languages of southern India. Tamil, for example, has five places of articulation in a single series of stops, paralleled by a series of nasals, and no fricatives (thus approaching the Australian proportion of sonorants to obstruents of 70% to 30%). Approaching the question from the opposite direction: according to the latest WHO data on the prevalence of chronic otitis media (Acuin 2004:14ff), Aboriginal Australians have the highest prevalence in the world – 10-54%, according to Coates & al (2002), up to 36% with perforations of the eardrum. They are followed – at some distance – by the Tamil of southern India (7.8%, down from previous estimates of 16-34%) to develop.

http://truthdive.com/2013/01/16/australian-aborigines-genetic-links-with-tamils/

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

So far no one in PDF has refuted the above statement , but use affinity to Tamil as a form of distraction. Funny how every PDF Indian suddenly has Tamil blood or relative i.e father is Tamil, mother is Tamil, SIL is Tamil , extended family is Tamil etc or develop love for Tamil

 

[itsanufy]

This is what you posted
So far no one in PDF has refuted the above statement , but use affinity to Tamil as a form of distraction. Funny how every PDF Indian suddenly has Tamil blood or relative i.e father is Tamil, mother is Tamil, SIL is Tamil , extended family is Tamil etc or develop love for Tamil

Does it matter matter whether I am Tamil or not ? . I have posted many threads relating to Tamil, have the so called PDF Tamils posted any ?

These fake Tamil sanghis only rebuttal is vulgar retorts -sample this



translation of highlighted sentence "get lost prostitute offspring' , FYI is should paiya not paya , thevidiya not thevudiya living entire life in Tamilnadu yet cant get the basic words right ?

I am not qualified to judge you are a Tamil or not. But your knowledge about Tamil politics is not great. Some other thread, kvpak pointed out your ignorance about Tamil parties supporting BJP or Congress in centre.
As you pointed now DMK is not a Tamil nationalist party now, so who is going to fight your cause?

 

[manlion]

I am not qualified to judge you are a Tamil or not. But your knowledge about Tamil politics is not great. Some other thread, kvpak pointed out your ignorance about Tamil parties supporting BJP or Congress in centre.
As you pointed now DMK is not a Tamil nationalist party now, so who is going to fight your cause?

I dont need any approval on my knowledge , how long were bharatis slaves to Muslim rule and British imperialist ? Freedom is not achieved over night, it involves huge sacrifice.

Indians wouldn't be showing such smugness if the Tigers ( or forest brigand Veerappan ) was around. Remember a rag tag army of few hundred sent 80,000 Indians packing and exploded the ex PM. A lesson in history Indian can never forget.

Stop worrying over Tamilnadu , India cant afford another Kashmir

 

[itsanufy]

I dont need any approval on my knowledge , how long were bharatis slaves to Muslim rule and British imperialist ? Freedom is not achieved over night, it involves huge sacrifice.

Indians wouldn't be showing such smugness if the Tigers ( or forest brigand Veerappan ) was around. Remember a rag tag army of few hundred sent 80,000 Indians packing and exploded the ex PM. A lesson in history Indian can never forget.

Stop worrying over Tamilnadu , India cant afford another Kashmir

You can't stop me worrying, its my country.

But now I am really doubting about your origin, Tamils from India telling Bhartis. Thats a news. My guess you are one of the LTTE guys from Sri Lanka. I might be wrong as well.

Its was wrong, total wrong from India's part to get involved in Sri Lankan civil war. Rajib was not spared for that.

But you have evaded my question, who will fight your cause? Political parties in TN are getting allied with UPA or NDA. I haven't heard of any powerful organization in TN like JKLF/HM in Kashmir doing sectarian politics.

 

[manlion]

You can't stop me worrying, its my country.

But now I am really doubting about your origin, Tamils from India telling Bhartis. Thats a news. My guess you are one of the LTTE guys from Sri Lanka. I might be wrong as well.

Its was wrong, total wrong from India's part to get involved in Sri Lankan civil war. Rajib was not spared for that.

But you have evaded my question, who will fight your cause? Political parties in TN are getting allied with UPA or NDA. I haven't heard of any powerful organization in TN like JKLF/HM in Kashmir doing sectarian politics.

"my country" ? remember it was given by the Brits on a golden platter. More history lessons, Periyar asked for Independent Dravidanadu , DMK's Annadurai - secession from India. Tamils have nothing (culture or genetic) in common with Indians. Why do you think I posted this thread on Tamils and Sumerians ?

I didnt want you to worry, as you were in anxiety for the Tamil cause - refer your post #36

As you pointed now DMK is not a Tamil nationalist party now, so who is going to fight your cause?

India involvement in Lanka's affairs - was to "teach Sri Lanka " a lesson

In fact, India never stood for the Sri Lankan Tamils’ rights or aspirations.
It had stood for its own interests when it armed, funded and militarily trained the Sri Lankan Tamil armed groups in the 1980s.
A staunch friend of the Soviet bloc during the Cold War era Prime Minister Ms Indira Gandhi wanted to ‘teach a lesson to President J.R. Jayewardene for being then an ally of the US Bloc

http://www.dailymirror.lk/article/Indo-Lanka-Accord-DEAD-LETTER-153520.html

LTTE was trained and funded by India to fight its proxy war in Lanka

I haven't heard of any powerful organization in TN like JKLF/HM in Kashmir doing sectarian politics.

Just like DMK, once a fringe group there are many "fringe groups" fighting for Tamil's rights and nationalism. I can't indulge any further

just a few previews

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/tami...rugan-arrested-on-charges-of-sedition.571853/

even Tamil students and women will rise up against Hindu fascists - they have no fear

https://twitter.com/x/status/1036580404419948544

except for Kashmir, you dont see this happening in other Indian states especially the 4 other southern states

 

[Samlee]

Interesting

 

[Shamsher1990]

First of all , the joke is on you mate...I know all your major cities

*Ahem* calling Karnataka or Kannada as 'city' is like calling Sindh and Sindhi as City.

even Tamil students and women will rise up against Hindu fascists - they have no fear

Huh? I know quite a few Tamils living here in Canada and none of them ever have any hard feeling towards 'Hindus'. Heck their major 'God' Murugan have a direct family relation with Shiva, a major God worshiped among North Hindus. Highly doubt that will happen. Their only grudge has been around two points
1. Imposition of Hindi.
2. Indian apathy towards Sri Lankan Tamils.

 

[war&peace]

translation of highlighted sentence "get lost prostitute offspring' , FYI is should paiya not paya , thevidiya not thevudiya living entire life in Tamilnadu yet cant get the basic words right ?

. man you literally slapped these saffron chaddy sanghis... relatives of Tamils

Can they deny Tamil struggle for separate homeland in Sri Lanka? Can they deny that a Tamil woman killed Rsjiv Gandhi?

 

[manlion]

*Ahem* calling Karnataka or Kannada as 'city' is like calling Sindh and Sindhi as City.


Huh? I know quite a few Tamils living here in Canada and none of them ever have any hard feeling towards 'Hindus'. Heck their major 'God' Murugan have a direct family relation with Shiva, a major God worshiped among North Hindus. Highly doubt that will happen. Their only grudge has been around two points
1. Imposition of Hindi.
2. Indian apathy towards Sri Lankan Tamils.

this discussion is about Tamilnadu Tamils not Canadian Tamils, it was a response to the following comment

As you pointed now DMK is not a Tamil nationalist party now, so who is going to fight your cause?

Murugan having a direct family relationship with Sivan is too anthropomorphic of a concept . Its a puranic make up story to appropriate Tamil gods into Vedic Brahmanism.

Murugan could possibly be the Babylonian Chief God Marduk

A priest in prayer before the spear symbol for Marduk, behind him tree of life. This is similar to Tamils who originally worship Murugan in his symbol spear (Vel) form and have the tree of life (kodi maram) @03:30 you can see Tamil priest worshiping Vel with the tree of life (covered or gold plated) behind

 

[Shamsher1990]

Murugan could possibly be the Babylonian Chief God Marduk

A priest in prayer before the spear symbol for Marduk, behind him tree of life. This is similar to Tamils who originally worship Murugan in his symbol spear (Vel) form and have the tree of life (kodi maram) @03:30 you can see Tamil priest worshiping Vel with the tree of life (covered or gold plated) behind

Honestly, all the Indian-origin Tamils I have interacted with always maintain Murugan to be son of Shiva. In terms of faith what people believe is what matter. 'Truth' is subjective here.

Can they deny Tamil struggle for separate homeland in Sri Lanka? Can they deny that a Tamil woman killed Rsjiv Gandhi?

Well at the same time, it is impossible to deny Tamils serving in security and scientific establishment of India. DRDO, ISRO etc are filled with Tamils. So is Indian deep-state: bureaucracy and intelligence.

except for Kashmir, you dont see this happening in other Indian states especially the 4 other southern states

Huh? You see this a lot, among the JNU types from what I have been told. 'Ajhadhi types'.

 

[manlion]

Honestly, all the Indian-origin Tamils I have interacted with always maintain Murugan to be son of Shiva. In terms of faith what people believe is what matter. 'Truth' is subjective here.

it should not be blind faith , propagated by vedic brahamnists to serve their interest. But some ways they are right too as both Sivan and Murugan were ancient Tamil gods . They were later appropriated by Vedic Brahmanism converting Murugan into Vedic Brahmnaist god Skanda or Karthigey through fabricated legends aka puranas.

Murugan versus Skanda
The Aryan appropriation of a tribal Dravidian god
Urmi Chanda-Vaz
Department of Sanskrit, University of Mumbai


http://murugan.org/research/chanda-vaz.htm

Tracing the roots of the Tamil God

https://www.thehindu.com/features/m...the-roots-of-the-tamil-god/article6808508.ece