Tamil leader becomes opposition leader in Sri Lanka

[Godman]

People like @HeinzG are Sinhalese Chauvinists, They have enough negativity among them already for anything minutely concerning minority groups, So bad examples just enhances thier views

Saying that i respect @HeinzG as a very decent poster and a patriotic Sri Lankan how ever our strong views may oppose, Unlike the other petty childish shit stain that ruin whole threads for nothing

I agree, his views are extreme but he presented his views well and much more intelligently than samv.
@HeinzG had some justifiable concerns but the Chauvinists views blind him. It is unsurprising that many people don't trust the TNA and even I would have prefer the JVP getting the opposition leadership, but some exaggerate some issues unnecessarily.

 

[Gibbs]

I agree, his views are extreme but he presented his views well and much more intelligently than samv.
@HeinzG had some justifiable concerns but the Chauvinists views blind him. It is unsurprising that many people don't trust the TNA and even I would have prefer the JVP getting the opposition leadership, but some exaggerate some issues unnecessarily.

Ofcause.. It's not that i trust the TNA to change their stripes completely either, Infact i'm very cautious and would have preferred the SLFP to be the main opposition

But as i said this is the best situation out of a not so perfect one.. It has provided them an opportunity and the whole country and the world to see where they stand and how they will go with a lot of scrutiny.. Something they did'nt have to worry about before, Because they were not answerable to the whole country, now they are

 

[HeinzG]

People like @HeinzG are Sinhalese Chauvinists, They have enough negativity among them already for anything minutely concerning minority groups, So bad examples just enhances thier views

Saying that i respect @HeinzG as a very decent poster and a patriotic Sri Lankan how ever our strong views may differ, Unlike the other petty childish shit stain that ruin whole threads for nothing

Oh ok.. why don't you people just see the bigger elephant in the room. If talking about Sinhalese make me a Chauvinist. Why don't you call Sambanthan and Hakeem also Chauvinists?

The issue is people like only looks at the one side of the coin. You people totally forget that there is a another side to the coin too. It maybe because you might loose the argument if you flip the coin.

LOL You already know it and its really obvious
All of these countries were going the same path as Sri Lanka. Authoritarian dictators ,increasing isolation from the west etc.
All of them developed a lot first but then they started going down just like SL, Somalia fell down really hard when the dictators time was ending a successor crisis came along side a rebellion. They were too late by then.

Both Zimbabawe and N.Korea continued the downward trend.

The way Rajapaska regime would have fallen could have been worse than somalia because ethnic problems were reemerging and the BBS was started problems for no reason other than hate.

Mahinda was a authoritarian dictator? I find it hard to believe. He never used force to lengthen his stay as the precedent. IMHO he was the most democratic leader we had for a while.

 

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Sampanthan is the leader of the Tamil National Alliance which recognised the LTTE as the sole representatives of the Tamil people and still has not climbed down from that position. They rarely if ever criticised the LTTE and openly supported them, never said a word about the LTTE abducting children, sending suicide bombers, setting off bombs, and keep the Tamil people as human shields. He is nothing but a Tamil chauvinist just like the chief minister of the northern province Vigneswaran. If you are looking for racial chauvinists look no further than the TNA and Sampanthan.

His parties stand is that there was a genocide of the Tamil people in Sri Lanka, that there should be an international investigation into war crimes and that the Sri Lankan military should be removed from the north and east of the country. In 1983 he walked out of Sri Lanka's parliament in protest because advocating separatism was criminalised. In 2012 in Batticaloa he made a speech stating that Tamils have the right to "external self-determination."

Now that he is leader of the opposition he has all the freedom to advocate his cause to foreign dignitaries and travel to foreign capitals as the legitimate leader of the Sri Lankan opposition. Ranil and Sirisena have just handed Tamil nationalism a gift, over the dead bodies of thousands of Sri Lankan soldiers who fought the very group that Sampanthan and his followers were supporting with gusto.





Don't whine and cry now... remember you wanted a "change"... well you have it now. Scream "yahapalanaya!" at the top of your voice and shout "woohoo!"

Ofcourse there was genocide in Srilanka. LTTE became terrorist and the Srilankan government killed Tamils indiscriminately and their soldiers wreaked unspeakable acts of cruelty on Tamils. The Tamils got it from both sides. If SL government performed as a representative government, they should have PROTECTED the TAmils from the LTTE. Instead they exploited the racial divide and 'protected' SL by themselves killing the Tamils.

So yeah, there should have been an international investigation and prosecution

 

[HeinzG]

So you tell me what he can do as the leader of the opposition with 16 seats and 7 seats occupied by EPDP and the JVP most anti separatist parties ?? Go ahead.. Can he muster enough votes to pass a separatist agenda ? Can he legislate federalism with it ? Can he set the foreign agenda to it? Tell us

Well obviously he can't pass any resolutions in the parliament. But the title of the opposition leader makes his points more valuable among foreign dignitaries. And a time like this where there is a UNHR resolution to be passed against us. It is really appealing that SL has a pro-UNHR opposition leader in the parliament.

God forbids if the local inquiry about the war crimes came out as negative to SL who will be there to raise concerns or voice against it? JVP?

Also if someone tried to pass a more pro-separatist resolution in the parliament who will voice against it? JVP?

Why he has to play within national parameters is he is force to.. Go learn some points about governance before commenting.. He is the opposition leader, He has no other option.. Why they were able to only focus on ethnic issues is that they were never put in that position, They were not answerable to anyone but thier constituency.. Now he represent the opposition of the whole country.. And the bloody parliament does not discuss federalism or Tamil issues 24/7, 365 days!!! They have myriad of other things to deal with within the whole country.. And for every single issue from Matara to Jaffna Colombo to Batticaloa, Mr.Sambandan will have to be responsible as the opposition.. Jeez it's like trying to make sense to 8 year olds

So if Sambanthan didn't do his duty as the opposition leader what the hell you or I can do? Nothing right.

And as for the time being Sambanthan has nothing to gain nor nothing to loose from the opposition leader post. Therefore he won't do a proper job at that.

It's really funny when you say Sambanthan will take responsibility as the opp. leader to raise his concerns over issues from Matara to Jaffna Colombo to Batticaloa when he knows only about Jaffna and Trinco.

And the countries i mentioned are all successes in bringing former terrorists separatists to the main stream.. Not failures.. Learn something without viewing the world like frogs in a well

From the listed four countries only Chechniya is compareble at least with Sri Lanka. And I'm pretty sure Chechniyan issue is not solved satisfactorily.

Ofcourse there was genocide in Srilanka. LTTE became terrorist and the Srilankan government killed Tamils indiscriminately and their soldiers wreaked unspeakable acts of cruelty on Tamils. The Tamils got it from both sides. If SL government performed as a representative government, they should have PROTECTED the TAmils from the LTTE. Instead they exploited the racial divide and 'protected' SL by themselves killing the Tamils.

So yeah, there should have been an international investigation and prosecution

Now who say there was a genocide? You? Where are the evidence? How many killed? and How they were killed?

 

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Now who say there was a genocide? You? Where are the evidence? How many killed? and How they were killed?

Moved by Chief Minister C.V. Wigneswaran, the Northern Provincial Council resolution details episodes of oppression in Sri Lanka. ---> Tamil Province charges Colombo with genocide - The Hindu

2015 Northern Province Council resolution on genocide of Tamils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Full details in above link but the first two paragraphs are:

The Tamil genocide resolution of 2015 was passed by the Northern Provincial Council on 10th February 2015 seeking an UN inquiry to investigate the genocide of the Tamil people in Sri Lanka by successive Sri Lankan Governments, and direct appropriate measures at the International Criminal Court outlining the Tamil people had no faith in the domestic commission.[1]

The resolution which was proposed and tabled by the chief minister of the Northern Province, Justice C. V. Vigneswaran, was enacted with an overwhelming majority in the council. Tabling the motion, Vigneswaran said "this historically important resolution" will help the Tamils take forward their struggle effectively and internationally.[2]

 

[HeinzG]

Moved by Chief Minister C.V. Wigneswaran, the Northern Provincial Council resolution details episodes of oppression in Sri Lanka. ---> Tamil Province charges Colombo with genocide - The Hindu

2015 Northern Province Council resolution on genocide of Tamils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Full details in above link but the first two paragraphs are:

The Tamil genocide resolution of 2015 was passed by the Northern Provincial Council on 10th February 2015 seeking an UN inquiry to investigate the genocide of the Tamil people in Sri Lanka by successive Sri Lankan Governments, and direct appropriate measures at the International Criminal Court outlining the Tamil people had no faith in the domestic commission.[1]

The resolution which was proposed and tabled by the chief minister of the Northern Province, Justice C. V. Vigneswaran, was enacted with an overwhelming majority in the council. Tabling the motion, Vigneswaran said "this historically important resolution" will help the Tamils take forward their struggle effectively and internationally.[2]

We can't believe what Tamils say. Give credible independent source.

 

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We can't believe what Tamils say. Give credible independent source.

don't be silly. Last I looked Vigneswaran is the elected Chief Minister of one SL's provinces. He moved this resolution in the provincial legislature and it was passed. What better authentication can you expect.

 

[samv]

People like @HeinzG are Sinhalese Chauvinists, They have enough negativity among them already for anything minutely concerning minority groups, So bad examples just enhances thier views

Saying that i respect @HeinzG as a very decent poster and a patriotic Sri Lankan how ever our strong views may differ, Unlike the other petty childish shit stain that ruin whole threads for nothing

@Gibbs And you're a Burgher chauvinist who who hates Muslims. A bigot like you calling other people names is laughable.

You call anyone who speaks up for the Sinhalese 'chauvinists,' I suppose Sampanthan and the Tamil National Alliance which won 16 seats in the north and the east are sweet liberals with no hint of racism?

God saved us in January from becoming a failed state
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There is no such thing as God. If there is, your God sent the tsunami which killed more than 300 000 people regionally.

 

[Nilgiri]

Unlike the other petty childish shit stain that ruin whole threads for nothing

 

[samv]

 

[Godman]

Mahinda was a authoritarian dictator? I find it hard to believe. He never used force to lengthen his stay as the precedent. IMHO he was the most democratic leader we had for a while.

You should be blind, We all saw what MR in in the last 5 years and specially during the Presidential election. It was the Sirasa Satana incident that specially made me realize that if MR wins he would destroy the country

 

[samv]

You should be blind, We all saw what MR in in the last 5 years and specially during the Presidential election. It was the Sirasa Satana incident that specially made me realize that if MR wins he would destroy the country

Didn't God appear to you in a dream and tell you that.

 

[HeinzG]

don't be silly. Last I looked Vigneswaran is the elected Chief Minister of one SL's provinces. He moved this resolution in the provincial legislature and it was passed. What better authentication can you expect.

Yes. Vigneshawaran elected from Tamil electorate and he's the CM of Nothern province. He's biased towards Tamil sentiments. So claims are not credible.

You should be blind, We all saw what MR in in the last 5 years and specially during the Presidential election. It was the Sirasa Satana incident that specially made me realize that if MR wins he would destroy the country

Oh really Satana program changed your mind?

You base your theory of dictatorship of MR on simply service disturbance of Dialog TV.

If MR really wanted to shut his opponents mouth he should have acted like present President and PM. That means by politically strangling the main opposition, put his crony on the leadership position on the opposition party, giving no voice for opponent speakers in the parliament etc.,

 

[Godman]

Oh really Satana program changed your mind?

You base your theory of dictatorship of MR on simply service disturbance of Dialog TV.

If MR really wanted to shut his opponents mouth he should have acted like present President and PM. That means by politically strangling the main opposition, put his crony on the leadership position on the opposition party, giving no voice for opponent speakers in the parliament etc.,

Nope just an example.

On BOTH dialog TV and PEO Tv at the same time
There are much more incidents like Eknaligoda ,Rathupaswala ,BBS's actions being ignored and many signs of Sri Lanka going towards another war