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Taliban’s haul of US weapons may add to problems in region, analysts say
  • Insurgents seized guns, ammunition, helicopters and combat aircraft from Afghan forces
  • Chinese military researcher says some of it could help fuel expansion of extremist and terrorist groups
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Published: 6:00am, 18 Aug, 2021
A Taliban fighter mans a machine gun during a patrol along a Kabul street on Monday, after a stunningly swift end to Afghanistan’s 20-year war. Photo: AFP

A Taliban fighter mans a machine gun during a patrol along a Kabul street on Monday, after a stunningly swift end to Afghanistan’s 20-year war. Photo: AFP

The Taliban’s haul of American weapons and equipment taken from the Afghan military could worsen instability in the region – including Xinjiang in China – if they fall into the hands of extremists, analysts say.

Taliban fighters seized guns, ammunition, helicopters and even combat aircraft, according to the Associated Press, as they took over provincial capitals, military bases and on Sunday Kabul, in a rapid offensive after American troops withdrew. They met little resistance from US-trained Afghan forces.

The insurgents are now trading weapons like Russian Kalashnikov AK-47s for modern American assault rifles, and according to Chinese military researcher Zhou Chenming, it is this type of weaponry that could help fuel the expansion of extremist and terrorist groups in the region.

“If this weaponry that has been supplied by the US [to Afghan forces] – like guns, ammunition and armoured vehicles – is seized by extremists then it will certainly add to the difficulty and challenges of counterterrorism operations for all governments in the region,” said Zhou, from the Yuan Wang military science and technology institute in Beijing.

“In the past, extremist groups have … carried out surprise attacks using knives and home-made bombs, but the casualties will be much higher if they get hold of more powerful weapons.”

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China – whose far western region of Xinjiang shares a short border with Afghanistan – is highly concerned about security in the country. Senior Chinese diplomats have called on the Taliban to cut ties with extremist groups such as the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, which it has blamed for violent attacks in Xinjiang.

Zhou said given the political turmoil in Afghanistan, China needed to step up border security to stop extremists from entering
Xinjiang via the Wakhan Corridor – a narrow strip of Afghan territory that borders the Chinese region.

He added that Central Asian countries were not equipped to counter well-trained, armed extremist groups. “That’s why China and Russia staged a joint counterterrorism drill in northwest China last week, in Ningxia, the Gobi Desert – they were preparing for possible cooperation in the future, say if Moscow needs help from the People’s Liberation Army,” he said.

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Andrei Chang, editor of the Canada-based Kanwa Defence Review, noted that America had spent an estimated US$83 billion on equipping and training Afghan security forces in the past two decades since US-led forces entered the country in 2001. But he said some of the weapons supplied by the US had been sold to warlords and extremist groups on the underground market.

The US-supplied firepower that is now in Taliban hands could not only help terrorist groups expand, it might also fuel the
drug trade in Central Asia and beyond, according to Eagle Yin, a research fellow with the China Foundation for International and Strategic Studies in Beijing.

“Opium is the key resource that supports the operation of terrorist and extremist groups based in Afghanistan – they make up more than 25 per cent of the world’s drug trade,” Yin said.

“The drug problem in Afghanistan will be another headache after the war for the regional counterterrorism group, the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation … the opium from Afghanistan is smuggled through Central Asia to Russia and Europe and causes serious social problems,” he said.

Li Wei, a counterterrorism expert in Beijing, said neighbouring countries will be hoping for reassurance from the Taliban on “whether it will be able to stop extremist groups from expanding” in the region and beyond. “But this will also rely on support and close monitoring from the international community, it will need powers like the US, China and Russia to work together,” he said.
 
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The anchor of one of Pakistan's TV talk shows stated that the overall estimated value of weapons taken by the Taliban is around $20 billion dollars, which includes helicopters, vehicles, and small arms.

Such a mess if true
 
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The anchor of one of Pakistan's TV talk shows stated that the overall estimated value of weapons taken by the Taliban is around $20 billion dollars, which includes helicopters, vehicles, and small arms.

Such a mess if true

US assets left behind in Afghanistan, all together, total about $80 billion.
 
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It's unlikely to happen. Even if it happens, it will be small.
First, because the border between China and Afghanistan is the wahan corridor, which is only 15 km wide, it is difficult forsteal into China.
Second, Xinjiang is no longer suitable for the survival of terrorists. In fact, after June 2014, all terrorists in Xinjiang have been eliminated. After October 2018, terrorists have completely lost their living space in Xinjiang. if a terrorist enters Xinjiang now, he will be reported by the people and then arrested within a day.
 
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US assets left behind in Afghanistan, all together, total about $80 billion.
Taliban have been acquiring US weapons for years. ANA soldiers would just hand them over or were captured after a battle. They will use them because they will have to.
 
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No. These US weapons will have zero effects in the long run, that is why this 'analyst' used the word 'may' and I use the word 'will'.

I will use a couple extreme examples to set the initial understanding.

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Back in WW II, Martin James Monti defected to Nazi Germany with his P-38. Look it up.


Then during the Cold War, Viktor Belenko defected to the West (JPN) with his MIG-25. Also, look it up.

In both situations, the recipients had no technological gain.

Everything in the P-38, the Germans had commensurate technology. Same for the US with the MIG-25.

But what was gained were deeper understanding of the enemy's tactics and doctrines that were created by the hardware. With the P-38, the Germans knew more details on how the Americans could escort the long range bombers, conduct air raids farther into German territories, and so on. With the MIG-25, the US confirmed the level of electronics technology in the Soviet industry, the Soviet doctrine of operating in austere airfields, and so on.

Between these two extremes lies our current Afghanistan weapons situation.

The Taliban will not be able to use the aircrafts, and this includes the helos. The best they can do is sell them to China and the PLA will have no technology gain because the PLA have similar, if not identical matching technology. The Taliban can use the trucks and some heavy ground equipment, but that is no great leap from the civilian equipment they current have. No technology gain here.

As for individual level items like NVG and rifles, the average American can go to the local sporting goods stores and get the same technology. The NVG used by the US Army is more armored because of the physical demands on the battlefields, there is no need for the civilian version, but the base technology is the same. And WHEN, not if, the electronics in the various weapons systems begins to fail, the Taliban will discard the system as each fail over time and usage. So over the next couple yrs, the Taliban will eventually come back to the same capabilities they had before they got the American weapons.

Be careful in reading articles that contains words like 'may', or 'could', or 'potential', or 'possible'. Many times, these articles were written under deadlines and the authors just had to produce something and anything with 'may' is usually good enough.
 
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dis too

 
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US assets left behind in Afghanistan, all together, total about $80 billion.
Any source for that?

The news are slowly coming out now about what I said days ago:

WASHINGTON DC (Agencies): The Taliban have seized $ 85 billion worth of US military equipment and gained access to biometric data from Afghans who have helped US Army soldiers for the past 20 years. The American congressman spoke about this.
 
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The news are slowly coming out now about what I said days ago:
Back in 90s… when Soviet and Americans dumped weapons in Afghanistan… Pakistan Army asked Taliban to give some of those weapons to Pakistan and as per former ISI Chief they dug the tunnels and brought weapons to Pakistan.

Pakistan should once again offer handsome amount to Taliban to sell their maal-e-ghaneemat and take cash of 5 billion USD in 5 transactions… we will have better use of these gadgets against India… Taliban don’t need all this as they prefer fighting with gun

dreaming…85 billion usd is very large sum… half of the countries in the world do not have equipment of this size
 
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Back in 90s… when Soviet and Americans dumped weapons in Afghanistan… Pakistan Army asked Taliban to give some of those weapons to Pakistan and as per former ISI Chief they dug the tunnels and brought weapons to Pakistan.

Pakistan should once again offer handsome amount to Taliban to sell their maal-e-ghaneemat and take cash of 5 billion USD in 5 transactions… we will have better use of these gadgets against India… Taliban don’t need all this as they prefer fighting with gun

dreaming…85 billion usd is very large sum… half of the countries in the world do not have equipment of this size

There is no doubt much of this bounty that Pakistan finds useful will end up in their hands. The spoils of victory are fair game.
 
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