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Taliban Wipe Out an Afghan Army Company While Talking Peace With the U.S.

But why Afghans can not see it? When Pakistan helped them, we fought shoulder to shoulder with them and defeated the enemy, and here India is just giving lollipop and building library and Afghans are happy with Indians, even though Indians are just using them ..

Farsiwan Afghans are inside Indian rear. The Indians are using Farsiwan Afghans like toilet paper. They both deserve each other. Eventually the bakhts will rape Afghans.
 
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Taliban Wipe Out an Afghan Army Company While Talking Peace With the U.S.

Mohammad Saber and Rod Nordland

March 11, 2019

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A major Taliban attack in western Afghanistan on Monday came as the group’s negotiators were meeting with American envoys in Doha, Qatar.

HERAT, Afghanistan — Taliban fighters killed or captured an entire Afghan National Army company of more than 50 soldiers on Monday, Afghan officials said, the latest in a series of major attacks by the militant group even as it pursues a peace deal with the United States.

The attack, in which the Taliban were reported to have killed 16 soldiers and taken 40 prisoner, took place in northwestern Badghis Province, close to the country’s western border with Turkmenistan. It came as Taliban negotiators entered a third week of talks with American diplomats in the Persian Gulf kingdom of Qatar.

In the assault, a large force of Taliban insurgents surrounded a base in the Bala Murghab district. After four hours of fighting, the militants captured or killed all of the soldiers in their base, as well as others at two outposts nearby, according to Abdul Aziz Beg, head of the Badghis provincial council.

The episode was the deadliest in a weeklong insurgent campaign that has killed, wounded or captured 70 soldiers in the district, Mr. Beg said. “The district is on the verge of collapse,” Mr. Beg said. “The fighting has gone on for a week, but the government is not paying any attention.”

Qais Mangal, a spokesman for the Afghan Ministry of Defense, confirmed the attack and said that four security outposts were captured by the Taliban. “We lost contact with all of the personnel there,” he said. “We don’t know the casualty figures.”

Reinforcements, including commandos and air support, were deployed to the district as fighting continued, Mr. Mangal said.

The area has been the site of constant conflict for years, and the Taliban have made numerous efforts to take control of the district. The heavily mountainous area offers the promise of a border sanctuary for the insurgents.

The attack came 10 days after a Taliban attack in southern Helmand Province in which 20 insurgents penetrated the defenses of an Afghan Army camp, killing as many as 40 soldiers. American forces stationed in the base helped to repel the Taliban attack.

On Monday, smaller Taliban attacks in Samangan, Sar-i-Pul, Balkh, Kunduz and Helmand Provinces were reported to have killed at least 13 members of the security forces. The casualties reflected the unusually high tempo of insurgent attacks during the winter months, when cold weather and snow blanket much of the country.

Afghan forces have been dying in record numbers. Last week alone, nearly 120 soldiers, police officers and pro-government militia members were killed in Taliban attacks across the country.

In January, President Ashraf Ghani, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, said 45,000 members of the security forces had died since he took office in September 2014 — a much higher total than anyone in his government had previously acknowledged.

The American military has also increased attacks against the Taliban, seeking leverage in the peace talks with the militants.

The Taliban, claiming credit for the attack in Badghis Province, said they had killed 20 soldiers. A spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, posted photos on his Twitter feed that he claimed were of the Afghan soldiers taken prisoner. It was not possible to verify their authenticity.


The fighting in Badghis began Saturday, when a Taliban attack killed eight soldiers, with six others taken prisoner, followed by Monday’s much deadlier assault, according to an Afghan official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he had been banned from talking to the news media.

In a familiar pattern, Afghan government officials attributed their forces’ failure to the Taliban’s purported possession of superior equipment, particularly night vision goggles and weapons with laser sights, and the insurgents’ greater numbers.

“The situation in Bala Murghab district is very bad,” said Saleh Mohammad Mubarez, the commander of the local police forces there, adding that his men were poorly equipped compared to the insurgents, who he said numbered 2,500.

“The majority of our outposts have collapsed to the Taliban,” Mr. Mubarez said. “We only have outposts in the bazaar, at the police headquarters and government offices. There has been continuous fighting for the last three nights, but still no reinforcements have arrived. We are all under siege.”

Mr. Mubarez said an Afghan Army battalion headquarters in the district was also besieged.

A police officer named Safiullah, reached by telephone in the district, said that reinforcements had not been able to arrive by air because the insurgents now controlled outposts close to the local air strip.

Allah Nazar, 40, who lives near the site of the fighting in the Bala Murghab district, said he saw Afghan military helicopters abort efforts to land after coming under Taliban fire from the ground. He said he also saw the insurgents march 30 soldiers past his home and off to captivity.

“The situation is very bad here,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/world/asia/taliban-attack-afghanistan.html
I think people of Afghanistan should not participate in war, neither from US side nor from Talib side.
Children are getting orphan and women are getting widowed on an unprecedent rate.
I think the children and wives of attacking forces should take this loss rather than Afghanis.
 
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Nothing is going on. This is business as usual. What you don't hear are talib casualty numbers, when the ANA wipes out entire villages.

Be careful of the propaganda.

I think people of Afghanistan should not participate in war, neither from US side nor from Talib side.
Children are getting orphan and women are getting widowed on an unprecedent rate.
I think the children and wives of attacking forces should take this loss rather than Afghanis.
 
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It is always sad to see when lives are lost.
But i think Taliban are also following Americans footsteps here to pressurize them, i remember few years back when Pakistan brought Taliban to the table for talks, USA drone strike killed one of their major leaders and rest is the history. Now the history is repeating itself but in the opposite way, Americans want to talk but Taliban killing their stooges.
If Pakistan does not hinder them, it won't take much time for these Talib soldiers to move into India.

But why Afghans can not see it? When Pakistan helped them, we fought shoulder to shoulder with them and defeated the enemy, and here India is just giving lollipop and building library and Afghans are happy with Indians, even though Indians are just using them ..
Question is that will the Mujaheedin find its match against the RSS?
 
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And in retaliation, the cowards killed 8 unarmed Wazir Tribesmen in front of their families in Paktia and filthy joke of channels like VOA Deewa and Mashal Radio named them terrorists.
 
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If Pakistan does not hinder them, it won't take much time for these Talib soldiers to move into India.

You think Taliban are remote controlled idiots and dont have working brains? These Talibans will be formidable future foe of Pakistan and bearer of bharati second front in west. At the end they are Afghans who love Pakistani blood more then anything else and want harm Pakistanis at any cost. for that Afghans are ready to accept gangadeshis as their biological father.

Pak military understand this, hence dont want Taliban to run over Afghanistan again and forced them to dialogue with other parties, We dont want 2nd rouge terrorist state like Iran near our borders who establish version of Sunnis wilayt e faqih and destroy whole region via sectarian fights.
 
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You think Taliban are remote controlled idiots and dont have working brains? These Talibans will be formidable future foe of Pakistan and bearer of bharati second front in west. At the end they are Afghans who love Pakistani blood more then anything else and to harm Pakistanis. hence Afghans alreadly accepted gangadeshis as their biological father.

Pak military understand this, hence dont want them to run over Afghanistan again and forced them to dialogue with other parties, We dont want 2nd rouge terrorist state like Iran near our borders who establish version of Sunnis wilayt e faqih and destroy whole region via sectarian fights.
Sorry. I am not war of the nuances.
 
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Nothing is going on. This is business as usual. What you don't hear are talib casualty numbers, when the ANA wipes out entire villages.

Be careful of the propaganda.
What are your sources for these talib casualty numbers? If not official afghan defence ministry numbers, then i would like to know. Anyway afghan government announced they will not be giving ANA casualty numbers a month or so back.
 
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Correct. Depopulating and scorched earth policies are being used.

ANA is ruthless. Talk to the Afghani members here. These things are not broadcast.

If the ANA is 'wiping out entire villages', it probably explains why the Taliban movement hasn't weakened.
 
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Correct. Depopulating and scorched earth policies are being used.

ANA is ruthless. Talk to the Afghani members here. These things are not broadcast.
That's the problem. The Soviets were just as ruthless, all it did was enrage the local populace and solidify the opposition. The ANA has been conducting 'scorched earth policies' for years now, and the Taliban appear to be stronger each year, inflicting record casualties on the ANA.

Obviously the 'scorched earth' policies are not working, because they're likely killing a lot of innocents in the process which only serves to then encourage the remaining family and friends of those killed to take up arms against the government.
 
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yes and no.......the idea is to exterminate. The talibs can cheer all they want, but they don't own a single city or a village even.

Keep in mind, talibs represent a minority movement and the reputation they carry along from their days, hasn't left them yet. People don't forget.

That's the problem. The Soviets were just as ruthless, all it did was enrage the local populace and solidify the opposition. The ANA has been conducting 'scorched earth policies' for years now, and the Taliban appear to be stronger each year, inflicting record casualties on the ANA.

Obviously the 'scorched earth' policies are not working, because they're likely killing a lot of innocents in the process which only serves to then encourage the remaining family and friends of those killed to take up arms against the government.
 
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But why Afghans can not see it? When Pakistan helped them, we fought shoulder to shoulder with them and defeated the enemy, and here India is just giving lollipop and building library and Afghans are happy with Indians, even though Indians are just using them ..

Because they are thankless B@$tards.


You think Taliban are remote controlled idiots and dont have working brains? These Talibans will be formidable future foe of Pakistan and bearer of bharati second front in west. At the end they are Afghans who love Pakistani blood more then anything else and to harm Pakistanis. hence Afghans alreadly accepted gangadeshis as their biological father.

Pak military understand this, hence dont want them to run over Afghanistan again and forced them to dialogue with other parties, We dont want 2nd rouge terrorist state like Iran near our borders who establish version of Sunnis wilayt e faqih and destroy whole region via sectarian fights.

If one thing Taliban are not, that would be remote controlled proxy for anyone including Pakistan. We did had some limited influence over them, keyword is "Limited" and under no circumstances we would want to spend that capital too quickly. The ball is American court now, Kabul is becoming irrelevant by each passing day.

We can not trust Afghans, regardless Talibs or not, if history is anything to go by. We must secure our borders at the soonest and enforce visa's for Afghans. No more free movement as before.

As for them running over Pakistan, that would remain a wet dream and nothing else. Taliban are a potent force in Afghanistan, beyond its border they are nothing. The population living right next to Afghan border does have strong ties and feelings to people across, once we have a hard border, next step would be to work towards making those ties weak, so in future our enemies can not use our own people against us.

Enough of this brotherly Islamic country BS.

That's the problem. The Soviets were just as ruthless, all it did was enrage the local populace and solidify the opposition. The ANA has been conducting 'scorched earth policies' for years now, and the Taliban appear to be stronger each year, inflicting record casualties on the ANA.

Obviously the 'scorched earth' policies are not working, because they're likely killing a lot of innocents in the process which only serves to then encourage the remaining family and friends of those killed to take up arms against the government.

Beating Afghans in their own country is impossible, they might try as hard as they would like. Let us not forget they had been effectively at war since 1979, their two generations have born and raised in this war, they know nothing but war. So good luck trying to out ruthless Afghans, they will always beat you at it.


yes and no.......the idea is to exterminate. The talibs can cheer all they want, but they don't own a single city or a village even.

Keep in mind, talibs represent a minority movement and the reputation they carry along from their days, hasn't left them yet. People don't forget.

You keep telling this to yourself, what ever helps you sleep at night. They effectively control 70% territory of Afghanistan, they have their own parallel government in place and running via shadow administrators. But dont let that nuisance wake you up from your dreams.
 
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