Taliban take centre stage as Kabul cut out of peace talks: President Ashraf Ghani pushed aside!

[TheUndertaker]

Ghani and Saleh's team will be the victor of the 2019 elections inshallah. Likely that's the case as Ghani has been blessing for Afghanistan.

As for the Taliban fan boys, get a life. This is not the 90's, in a way im happy you're stuck in that age.
The best the Taliban can do is form a political party, which they won't do as they know they don't have people support. Who would want goat herders to lead their country.

There's 7000 more US troops, a more stronger, effective ANSF. A sky full of kites, I mean drones to keep the terrorists and their accomplices in check. While India helping Afghanistan come out of the dark age through economic efforts through Chabahar, Dams, Scholarships, Medical and Work visas. We'll never forget this efforts.

 

[Fieldmarshal]

I know its an unpopular opinion on here but we shouldnt be cheerleading for talibs to come into power. Would we want TTP for ourselves? Let them decide whats best for them.

The difference between the ttp and the Afghan Taliban is the same as the difference between day an night.
The Afghan Taliban are an indeginous movement who r defending their home land against foreign occupation and hence enjoy wide support in afg.

TTP were were a bunch of thugs n stooges who were trained, funded and led by cia/raw/nds and were put into place, first to create civil unrest in Pakistan and to start a civil war in Pakistan.
Secondly they were given the name of "Taliban" to defame the Afghan Taliban, while in reality they had nothing to do with the afg taliban. Who on more than one occasion had warned them to stop their activities inside Pakistan.

Even after all these years if we r not able to differentiate these facts from fiction when now every thing is as clear as day light than we have no one but our selves to blame

 

[blueazure]

wait for april and melting snows , US will be evacuating and talibs will unleash spring offensive and finish ANA once for all

there's a reason ghani was sidelined, ? why negotiate with someone who has lost already ??

Ghani and Saleh's team will be the victor of the 2019 elections inshallah. Likely that's the case as Ghani has been blessing for Afghanistan.

As for the Taliban fan boys, get a life. This is not the 90's, in a way im happy you're stuck in that age.
The best the Taliban can do is form a political party, which they won't do as they know they don't have people support. Who would want goat herders to lead their country.

There's 7000 more US troops, a more stronger, effective ANSF. A sky full of kites, I mean drones to keep the terrorists and their accomplices in check. While India helping Afghanistan come out of the dark age through economic efforts through Chabahar, Dams, Scholarships, Medical and Work visas. We'll never forget this efforts.

here comes a dalit troll with an afghan flag, so typical , lol

 

[Yaseen1]

afghanistan may be divided in to smaller countries by u.s before leaving and taliban will be given one of the part we should ensure that areas near Pakistan border not go in hands of antiPakistan forces

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Ghani and former NA co. were never the legitimate representative of Afghanistan at first place. US has finally realized this. However for the sake of peace, Talibans,NA and other tribal leaders of Afghanistan, should form a unity government for atleast 10 years.

 

[TheUndertaker]

Ghani and former NA co. were never the legitimate representative of Afghanistan at first place. US has finally realized this. However for the sake of peace, Talibans,NA and other tribal leaders of Afghanistan, should form a unity government for atleast 10 years.

contrary to your point, unity governments don't work that well as witnessed. I think Taliban needs to create a political party and see who wins. This should be no problem if they think the people are with them, instead under their gun.

 

[Rafi]

contrary to your point, unity governments don't work that well as witnessed. I think Taliban needs to create a political party and see who wins. This should be no problem if they think the people are with them, instead under their gun.

If you really are from A Stan then know this the Yanks have had enough they are going to run, even if not now its inevitable.

 

[TheUndertaker]

If you really are from A Stan then know this the Yanks have had enough they are going to run, even if not now its inevitable.

ok, and your point is.....

I don't think we want them here for ever.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

contrary to your point, unity governments don't work that well as witnessed. I think Taliban needs to create a political party and see who wins. This should be no problem if they think the people are with them, instead under their gun.

Well what ever works, with less violence, if not no violence at all, should be the way forward. But holding fair elections in Afghanistan at the moment seems not possible. Democracy doesn't work well either in that part of the world. Why not have Iranian type set up in Afghanistan where guardian council nominates potential president/PM candidates and people than vote for their favorite candidates. That Guardian council, should consists of Afghan elders, including heavy Taliban presence. Remember, Talibans doesn't believe in democracy and they normally doesn't like to remain public, so keeping their perspective in mind, some kind of accommodation and compromise should be there. May be perhaps in near by future Afghanistan than may return to true democratic system.

 

[Rafi]

ok, and your point is.....

I don't think we want them here for ever.

You need to negotiate with the Talis, they have a lot of support in the south, give them the governerships and control and maybe get a peace deal.

 

[ziaulislam]

You need to negotiate with the Talis, they have a lot of support in the south, give them the governerships and control and maybe get a peace deal.

The result will be this

Due to this

ok, and your point is.....

I don't think we want them here for ever.

A defacto 4 way divided

 

[Super Falcon]

No one recognize this indian puppet govt in kabul US trump learned hard lesson thet know they cannot crush talibans and do more is not going to happen from pak real piwer is taliban modi only can make libraries and in return bring chaos to region and bring attacks to pak and in return our forces has to pay the dirty work of modi

 

[TheUndertaker]

Well what ever works, with less violence, if not no violence at all, should be the way forward. But holding fair elections in Afghanistan at the moment seems not possible. Democracy doesn't work well either in that part of the world. Why not have Iranian type set up in Afghanistan where guardian council nominates potential president/PM candidates and people than vote for their favorite candidates. That Guardian council, should consists of Afghan elders, including heavy Taliban presence. Remember, Talibans doesn't believe in democracy and they normally doesn't like to remain public, so keeping their perspective in mind, some kind of accommodation and compromise should be there. May be perhaps in near by future Afghanistan than may return to true democratic system.

we'll see what we come up with. But aside from democracy, no one needs to be a piece with out contesting it. Afghan tribal hierarchy is exactly like democracy. In either case it's the people who decide THEIR future, that includes Talis. As long as there's no external interference, voting is no problem with the new e-ID. Just cuz Taliban doesn't believe in democracy doesn't mean they should enforce their will, neither will Afghans take it. It's not the 90s.

You need to negotiate with the Talis, they have a lot of support in the south, give them the governerships and control and maybe get a peace deal.

GIVE them government posts, as oppose to contesting it? that didn't work with the Americans so well.

No one recognize this indian puppet govt in kabul US trump learned hard lesson thet know they cannot crush talibans and do more is not going to happen from pak real piwer is taliban modi only can make libraries and in return bring chaos to region and bring attacks to pak and in return our forces has to pay the dirty work of modi

we're talking about Afghanistan NOT India. If you hate Modi so much, open up another thread.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Afghan tribal hierarchy is exactly like democracy. In either case it's the people who decide THEIR future, that includes Talis. As long as there's no external interference, voting is no problem with the new e-ID. Just cuz Taliban doesn't believe in democracy doesn't mean they should enforce their will, neither will Afghans take it. It's not the 90s.

You wish.

You are also not well versed with the ground realities and psyche of your own people that what Afghans really want. What has been your history even before Talibans. What always has been your political/governance culture. For starters like you, buddy if you want true democratic system, than better abolish tribal culture in your land which won't be that easy even in 21st century. LOL you asylum seeker Afghans in Canada, consider peace can be achieved in Afghanistan only if there is Canada/US/EU like democratic voting in Afghanistan...lol dude knock knock !!!we are talking about Afghanistan not Canada when you said that "it's the people who decide THEIR future". Had this been so easy, Afghanistan would had been a decent country by now. Even in country like Pakistan, democracy at times is like four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

 

[Saleet]

President Ashraf Ghani is being pushed to the sidelines

Kia piddi aur kia piddi ka shorba. ...!!! He is worthless.