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A TALIBAN sniper has shot dead up to seven British soldiers during a five-month killing spree in a town regarded as the most dangerous place in Afghanistan.

The 600 soldiers of the 3rd Battalion, the Rifles, stationed at Sangin, fear that the gunman is stalking his prey for days on end and may have been trained in neighbouring Iran or by Al-Qaeda operatives in Pakistan.

The Taliban hitman demonstrated his skill last month when he picked off a British sniper who was on the lookout for his insurgent rival. Three of his suspected victims have been army sharpshooters, including one killed by a single bullet between the eyes.

“Their sniper is giving us real problems and we’ve not yet worked out how to take him down,” said a senior British Army officer who recently visited the town in Helmand province.

“Our snipers are some of the best-trained and capable soldiers we have. When you lose one it is telling you something.”

One soldier likened the deadly stand-off to Enemy at the Gates, the Hollywood film in which Jude Law and Ed Harris play rival Soviet and German snipers stalking each other across Stalingrad during the second world war.

British snipers use a watchtower at Forward Operating Base Jackson that overlooks Sangin, and also have access to Javelin guided missiles, which can accurately blast any enemy positions they detect.

“The Taliban sniper must watch our guys for days to wait for the best situation to open fire and still make his escape,” said the soldier. “So far he has not been taken down, even though the SAS have carried out several forays into the area.”

Heavy casualties in Sangin have prompted Sir Jock Stirrup, chief of the defence staff, to demand a review of British tactics. Some 53 British troops have been killed in and around the Taliban stronghold during the past 12 months. Since last November, 3 Rifles have lost seven soldiers in the district to “small arms fire”, while 15 troops have been killed by roadside bombs.

The unit it replaced lost all but one of its fatalities to bombs during its tour of Sangin.

The senior officer added: “There seem to be enough spy drones and troops for the size of area. The conclusion is the Taliban have outside help — from either Iran or Al-Qaeda in Pakistan — to train up their guys.”

British troops in Sangin are suffering more than 12 times the average casualty rate for Nato forces in Afghanistan, making it the deadliest location in the country. Some are now comparing it with South Armagh in Northern Ireland at the height of the Troubles when the Provisional IRA used snipers to kill British troops with impunity. At one point the Provos even put up spoof “Sniper at Work” road signs.

Senior officers consider the situation in Sangin to be “very bad” because of the determination and skill shown by the Taliban fighters there. The Taliban sniper’s youngest victim is thought to be 19.

Since Captain James Philippson, 29, was shot on the outskirts of Sangin in June 2006 — the first British soldier to die in combat as part of the Helmand mission — a steady stream of the army’s best regiments have failed to seize long-term control. Proposals to drive out the insurgents once and for all include moving in an extra 600 troops that are soon to be available after the handover of Musa Qala in northern Helmand to the Americans — even though these soldiers have been earmarked as reinforcements for “population protection” in another area.

Major-General Gordon Messenger, UK spokesman for operations in Afghanistan, said: “The casualty toll in Sangin is tragically high but our forces remain very much on the front foot and are determined to maintain the progress that they and their predecessors have achieved.”

Taliban sniper hunted over seven UK deaths - Times Online
 
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isn't Helmand the same province of Afghanistan where the british were humiliated many times before in the Anglo Afghan wars?
 
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isn't Helmand the same province of Afghanistan where the british were humiliated many times before in the Anglo Afghan wars?
A quick google search would do, or a history book which would be even better.

This article is quite misleading, the author says such words as "sharpshooter" and "Snipers". To quite a lot of people, more than you think, would think: 'Well, sharpshooter, sniper whats the difference, doesn't matter'. Well, put it this way, if you want to send a bunch of crack shot soldiers to Afghanistan, you send snipers not sharpshooters. Theres a huge difference.

And, this author makes it sound like a Hollywood movie which it certainly is not...Its the real world. Very unprofessional on his part. I very much doubt any soldier would compare it to a movie. All the ones I've met and worked closely with haven't.

On a final note; I'd happily bet my years wage on British snipers slotting more taliban than the reverse.
 
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7 Years are enough time to become an expert sharpshooter. And who knows he might also have experience from Soviet Afghan war.

And btw no wars can be won without sacrifice.

RIP
 
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7 Years are enough time to become an expert sharpshooter. And who knows he might also have experience from Soviet Afghan war.

And btw no wars can be won without sacrifice.

RIP
I agree with you on the last two peices you wrote...

...But do you know the difference between a sharpshooter and a sniper? Well, in the British Armed Forces at least, a sniper is a specialist role such as a medic, explosives expert etc where as a sharpshooter isn't. A sniper will train for a longer period of time learning how to observe, hide and shoot at greater distances, such simple things like so. A sharpshooter won't be on the same level as a sniper although not inferior which may seem to some, just a different role which is not classed as a speciality.

Or put simple, a sniper is an art form where as a sharpshooter is what the name suggests, 'Sharp-shooter', i.e a 'very good shot'.
 
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If I am ever deployed overseas, I'm going to develop ADHD and constantly fidget especially on patrol. Snipers always go after stationary targets, people becomes much much harder to hit even if they are moving just a little bit.
 
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I agree with you on the last two peices you wrote...

...But do you know the difference between a sharpshooter and a sniper? Well, in the British Armed Forces at least, a sniper is a specialist role such as a medic, explosives expert etc where as a sharpshooter isn't. A sniper will train for a longer period of time learning how to observe, hide and shoot at greater distances, such simple things like so. A sharpshooter won't be on the same level as a sniper although not inferior which may seem to some, just a different role which is not classed as a speciality.

Or put simple, a sniper is an art form where as a sharpshooter is what the name suggests, 'Sharp-shooter', i.e a 'very good shot'.
Basically...The unofficial understanding is...If you are good out to about 500-600 meters, you are a 'sharpshooter', usually remained attached to your unit and is respected for your skills. Beyond that distance, then a 'sharpshooter' goes into training to become a 'sniper' and usually works alone, or only with a partner, if he wants to expand his skills. In the US, there are plenty of civilian 'sharpshooters', especially out in the mid- and Western states where hunting is the norm. Many of these hunters are good out to 500 meters with the standard issue 5.56 round.
 
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I agree with you on the last two peices you wrote...

...But do you know the difference between a sharpshooter and a sniper? Well, in the British Armed Forces at least, a sniper is a specialist role such as a medic, explosives expert etc where as a sharpshooter isn't. A sniper will train for a longer period of time learning how to observe, hide and shoot at greater distances, such simple things like so. A sharpshooter won't be on the same level as a sniper although not inferior which may seem to some, just a different role which is not classed as a speciality.

Or put simple, a sniper is an art form where as a sharpshooter is what the name suggests, 'Sharp-shooter', i.e a 'very good shot'.
I know the difference and thanks to Gambit its now more clear ....I used the word Sharpshooter as slang....

PS: English is not my native language.....so such little mistakes will always be found in my posts.....
 
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This article is quite misleading, the author says such words as "sharpshooter" and "Snipers". To quite a lot of people, more than you think, would think: 'Well, sharpshooter, sniper whats the difference, doesn't matter'. Well, put it this way, if you want to send a bunch of crack shot soldiers to Afghanistan, you send snipers not sharpshooters. Theres a huge difference.

I think you fail to realize that they are british "snipers".....the "sharpshooter" phrase is used by the british as well as the americans to make it out as if there soilders are in the olympics shooting for medals while the evil taliban snipers kill in cold blood.
It just wordplay like "collatral damage" instead of "innocent deaths".
 
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i have little question

how TALIBAN is winning a war in AFGHANISTAN ...

does TALIBAN have any F-22 aur B-52 or others ???

does they have any APACHI ???

a world biggest economy ??? like USA ??

does they have any well trained Solider like USA and NATO and Others.... ?

i think its' ANSWER is NO ?????????

So Howwwwwwwwwwwwww :???? answer plz
 
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i have little question

how TALIBAN is winning a war in AFGHANISTAN ...

does TALIBAN have any F-22 aur B-52 or others ???

does they have any APACHI ???

a world biggest economy ??? like USA ??

does they have any well trained Solider like USA and NATO and Others.... ?

i think its' ANSWER is NO ?????????

So Howwwwwwwwwwwwww :???? answer plz

It becomes difficult to answer when the question is wrong...The taliban are not winning..More and more of them are being killed by the NATO,Afghan and Pakistani Forces....So,they are loosing....
 
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i have little question

how TALIBAN is winning a war in AFGHANISTAN ...

does TALIBAN have any F-22 aur B-52 or others ???

does they have any APACHI ???

a world biggest economy ??? like USA ??

does they have any well trained Solider like USA and NATO and Others.... ?

i think its' ANSWER is NO ?????????

So Howwwwwwwwwwwwww :???? answer plz

Taliban have two formidable weapons that nato doesn't have-STEALTH and willingness to risk lives of civilians by hiding among them.It is not possible to identify a taliban from a civilian until he open fire or go kaboom in some market place.As you mentioned,US Have B2,apache and other high tech toys and if usa wanted,it can turn all the so called taliban controlled areas into a big pile of rubble and ashes overnight.They haven't done that because taliban scum shamelessly hides among civilians.
 
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