Taliban Commander Molvi Bahadur Jan arrested from Peshawar airport: FIA

[BHarwana]

o kaka g im not suggesting that either! i have shared potential ideas abt such an intel agency if ever to be made in that thread in great detail. I have addressed this exact issue there too.

My idea of the new intel agency is that it must be only wafadar of mumlikat e Pakistan not of a mere institution like ISI what to speak of politicians. It must not exist either officially or unofficially........it must not even have a name to begin with! it must only exist in the imagination of journalists or def analysts who would nly feel an unseen ghost presence where ever they go.

Nobody should be its head either, rather a committee type body mixture of civ/mil intel officers....When i say civilians i mean civilian intel officers or people who r street smart also rather then being loyal and intelligent like in ISI. It must work as a secret society! U cant control what u dont know on the first place. Nobody will know abt it on the first place, not even COAS, Air Chief or Naval Chief... what to speak of mere politicians...so here goes yr civil services concern

here go through my comments interaction with @MUSTAKSHAF @tps77 i have talked in great detail abt my ideas of such an intel agency, how it should work, methodology of its recruitment/operations, how its governed/controlled etc etc.......its not a very long thread...Quote me there if u have any questions/ideas/reservations etc etc.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-spy-chronicles-book-review-by-dr-naeem-mushtaq.560771/

My friend you are a smart guy and you have based you entire methodology around Assad Duranni. I am shocked at your thinking. You don't know a thing about Asad Durrani. You even don't know his motives. May be ISI has activated him to infiltrate the India media and diplomats or may be he is what you are saying he is this book of Assad Durani is nothing more than a fictional novel. I have listened Duranni's past interviews to RT and his Q&A on Al-jazera they never tell the truth just leave perceptions behind. On his session on AL-jazera Assad Durrani was acting as a Hard nut to crack and even not answering the questions which were already public knowledge. The world of Spys are too hard for you to crack and handle. ISI is doing great and has achieved more than any one. No one is going to change and no one has the power on this issue you will always find on the opposite end. Pakistanis love ISI and Pakistanis trust them.

Media and books will fail to achieve any thing because I trust my life in the hand of ISI more than some stupid literature. I have seen too much in Pakistan. I am a Pakistani and I have a right to stand on any side of the story. If I don't believe in Media books and stories that is my choice being a citizen of a democratic country. I believe in ISI if that makes me a fanboy I am happy with it. There are many Pakistanis who agree with me and we are majority. We love ISI so what deal with it.

 

[ziaulislam]

Why he did not use Iran land route? then India or wherever.
Do the feel and are confident that fooling Pakistani Authorities is easy?

He probably paid a little less...
You pay right everything works out..
Lesson..dont look for discounts

 

[Umair Nawaz]

My friend you are a smart guy and you have based you entire methodology around Assad Duranni. I am shocked at your thinking. You don't know a thing about Asad Durrani. You even don't know his motives. May be ISI has activated him to infiltrate the India media and diplomats or may be he is what you are saying he is this book of Assad Durani is nothing more than a fictional novel. I have listened Duranni's past interviews to RT and his Q&A on Al-jazera they never tell the truth just leave perceptions behind. On his session on AL-jazera Assad Durrani was acting as a Hard nut to crack and even not answering the questions which were already public knowledge. The world of Spys are too hard for you to crack and handle. ISI is doing great and has achieved more than any one. No one is going to change and no one has the power on this issue you will always find on the opposite end. Pakistanis love ISI and Pakistanis trust them.

Media and books will fail to achieve any thing because I trust my life in the hand of ISI more than some stupid literature. I have seen too much in Pakistan. I am a Pakistani and I have a right to stand on any side of the story. If I don't believe in Media books and stories that is my choice being a citizen of a democratic country. I believe in ISI if that makes me a fanboy I am happy with it. There are many Pakistanis who agree with me and we are majority. We love ISI so what deal with it.

i have been thinking about this since a long long time....its just that Asad Durrani broke the ice.
And im not a intelligent person...............i consider myself dumb!

And yr very emotional man! are u from karachi by any chance?

 

[BHarwana]

i have been thinking about this since a long long time....its just that Asad Durrani broke the ice.
And im not a intelligent person...............i consider myself dumb!

And yr very emotional man! are u from karachi by any chance?

You are not dumb you are intelligent lets leave this thread and take the discussion on your thread. Lets not derail this thread.

A terrorist tried to escape to Dubai and we want an answer from the Sheik why was he going to visit him let not lose our objective I will reply in your thread.

 

[Fledgingwings]

Must smoke this guy like others before him.

 

[Imran Khan]

no Geneva convention LAWS apply here hang him with balls and gt the info

 

[danishwar]

no Geneva convention LAWS apply here hang him with balls and gt the info

No chance
It looks commander sahab is compromised, this is the usual method to keep assets family safe , otherwise on charge of betrayal his gang men will come for revenge

 

[Sine Nomine]

o kaka g im not suggesting that either! i have shared potential ideas abt such an intel agency if ever to be made in that thread in great detail. I have addressed this exact issue there too.

My idea of the new intel agency is that it must be only wafadar of mumlikat e Pakistan not of a mere institution like ISI what to speak of politicians. It must not exist either officially or unofficially........it must not even have a name to begin with! it must only exist in the imagination of journalists or def analysts who would nly feel an unseen ghost presence where ever they go.

Nobody should be its head either, rather a committee type body mixture of civ/mil intel officers....When i say civilians i mean civilian intel officers or people who r street smart also rather then being loyal and intelligent like in ISI. It must work as a secret society! U cant control what u dont know on the first place. Nobody will know abt it on the first place, not even COAS, Air Chief or Naval Chief... what to speak of mere politicians...so here goes yr civil services concern

here go through my comments interaction with @MUSTAKSHAF @tps77 i have talked in great detail abt my ideas of such an intel agency, how it should work, methodology of its recruitment/operations, how its governed/controlled etc etc.......its not a very long thread...Quote me there if u have any questions/ideas/reservations etc etc.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-spy-chronicles-book-review-by-dr-naeem-mushtaq.560771/

Many Agencies in Pakistan like ISI,IB,ANF and Border Guards(Rangers,F.C)are going through
leadership disasters.
None of these guys have worked in this field and trying to clear them,this very complex sitution is like milking a bullock.
Recently ISI has been revamped by promoting Civilians into higher and decision making echelons.That has yielded very good results,but a lot needs to be done by bringing in professional officers through CSS not FPSC.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Many Agencies in Pakistan like ISI,IB,ANF and Border Guards(Rangers,F.C)are going through
leadership disasters.
None of these guys have worked in this field and trying to clear them,this very complex sitution is like milking a bullock.
Recently ISI has been revamped by promoting Civilians into higher and decision making echelons.That has yielded very good results,but a lot needs to be done by bringing in professional officers through CSS not FPSC.

what we need, is that we need carrier spies from the concerned agency to rule them always...No outsider must be parachuted into their DG level roles.

 

[danishwar]

He probably paid a little less...
You pay right everything works out..
Lesson..dont look for discounts

it looks commander was in short supply of money , was not getting even food and wardi allownce , which made him to book a direct flight to jail .

 

[undercover JIX]

He probably paid a little less...
You pay right everything works out..
Lesson..dont look for discounts

or became a double agent, best way to cover up.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Israel had killed Hamas leader there a few years ago...and today Israel has an embassy/conciliate office there as well. Learn from these fucking Yahoodis! kill the enemy no matter where he is regardless of consequences.

There Sheikhs arnt someone to be respected or their security forces to be taken seriously. We can still do mere surveillance in Dubai regardless.

Remember! its a khichri of foreign nationals. We even dont have to use Pakistani for these jobs either........What yr writing r mere excuses.

I agree with you! But sadly the very same people who propagate this, today, will be yelling "Bloody Murder" after a while. The whole nation is full of fickle people with extremely short memories.

Some of the missing persons are a direct result of this strategy during the Musharraf era and later on. Some of these people can not be brought to justice... they don't wear a uniform that one can identify them as enemy combatant...they assimilate into the local population and the locals dare not give testimony against them....the courts will not accept electronic intelligence as evidence....so what to do....????

 

[Umair Nawaz]

I agree with you! But sadly the very same people who propagate this, today, will be yelling "Bloody Murder" after a while. The whole nation is full of fickle people with extremely short memories.

Some of the missing persons are a direct result of this strategy during the Musharraf era and later on. Some of these people can not be brought to justice... they don't wear a uniform that one can identify them as enemy combatant...they assimilate into the local population and the locals dare not give testimony against them....the courts will not accept electronic intelligence as evidence....so what to do....????

then how abt finding out of box solutions....ban protests of any kind and no or any kind of privatization either in media or whatever else...start grabbing the lands, and ceasing the money n wealth of powerful people who come in the way.......etc etc build n iron curtain........no lakhani or mansha or zardari or Shakeel or rehman or sehgal or whatever can come in the or would rather dare to.

Remember, in businessmen or investors ka koi deen iman nai hota, na koi khuda hota ha....bas sirf paisa hota ha jiss sy innhain power milty ha....Whoever controls money will control them like how a puppeteer controls his puppets.

Paisa dhann, Dawlat or Shohrat is what they crave for. U control that, u control them. As that Sun Tzu's or whatever's chinese proverb is ''use the strength of enemy against them''

Do what has never ever been done in Pakistan, build a proper iron curtain, and deal with anybody or anyone with iron fist! No need for privatization at all if it comes to it then so be it. U guys have been too lenient with them always, even build the concentration camps if u have to...launch yr own human experiment on these people, they r a surplus anyways, just some bunch of unwanted goons. Make a horrible example out of them, for everyone to think a billion times to even speak what they wish to or whatever that comes to their mouth to begin with. Go Fascist who cares.....These solutions have never ever been applied in our region to begin with let go of our country alone.

Go Chinese/Russian route, Pakistan will be destroyed like this anyways if we dont do real things!! **** these people who cares, they r one of us anyways! They aint loyal Pakistanis they r of to no good they r just good 4 nothing....it would be rather a favor over them to kill them.

Money and wealth is their greatest power and their greatest weakness too!
But need to be clever enough to spot weaknesses which these dumb military guys r NOT, they live in a Charade. Here he is ex Airforce pilot and ex customs officer Asher Azeem explaining this weakness.

 

[danishwar]

then kind out of box solutions....ban protests of any kind and no or any kind of privatization either in media or whatever else...start grabbing the lands, and ceasing the money n wealth of powerful people who come in the way.......etc etc build n iron curtain........no lakhani or mansha or zardari or Shakeel or rehman or sehgal or whatever can come in the or would rather dare to.

Remember, in businessmen or investors ka koi deen iman nai hota, na koi khuda hota ha....bas sirf paisa hota ha jiss sy innhain power milty ha....Whoever controls money will control them like how a puppeteer controls his puppets.

Paisa dhann, Dawlat or Shohrat is what they crave for. U control that, u control them. As that Sun Tzu's or whatever's chinese proverb is ''use the strength of enemy against them''

Money and wealth is their greatest power and their greatest weakness too!
But need to be clever enough to spot weaknesses which these dumb military guys r NOT, they live in a Charade. Here he is ex Airforce pilot and ex customs officer Asher Azeem explaining this weakness.

there is some history of custom sahib .

 

[ghazi52]

TTP commander Bahadur Jan.

The graves of the slain TTP chief and his four commanders killed in June 13 US drone strike.