Taliban chief Akhtar Mansoor dead, Taliban deny.

[A-Team]

Good. American strike occurred in Baluchistan area. If Pak Army is not willing to act against Afghan Taliban than US will. More embarrassment coming our way now.

Its a clear message for Pakistan as well that US will launch attack any where inside Pakistan now. US Pak relations to detorioate further. Its a fact that we have taken strong action against TTP but not against Afghan talibans and Haqqani network.

Finally a sane post on the topic, the magnitude of this episode will come clear in the coming days and I would be interested to see what the ISPR says about it or will they leave to the civilians like the OBL case to live with the consequences.

Some of the keyboard warriors here seems not to understand that this episode complicates Pakistani situation even further.

1. If Mansoor was taken out without Pakistani consent then, the question of sovereignty arises, how can a country with Nukes and boasting some of the best security apparatus have its airspace violated like this.

2. If he was taken with Pakistani consent then there will be blowback from the Afghan Talis and their brethrens.

The policy of confronting the TTP and not the Afghan Talis is self defeating and isolating Pakistan further.

Sir, Ofcourse that's the best thing to do - And we all wish you very best of luck for it. What really concerns us is how much and how long you can do it.

For as long as it needed = either the Afghan Talis come to Afghanistan like Hizb-Islami just did last week or be destroyed like the Tamil Tigers on the battlefield.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Finally a sane post on the topic, the magnitude of this episode will come clear in the coming days and I would be interested to see what the ISPR says about it or will they leave to the civilians like the OBL case to live with the consequences.

Some of the keyboard warriors here seems not to understand that this episode complicates Pakistani situation even further.

1. If Mansoor was taken out without Pakistani consent then, the question of sovereignty arises, how can a country with Nukes and boasting some of the best security apparatus have its airspace violated like this.

2. If he was taken with Pakistani consent then there will be blowback from the Afghan Talis and their brethrens.

The policy of confronting the TTP and not the Afghan Talis is self defeating and isolating Pakistan further.

Actually we are going no where with Afghan policy perhaps waiting for US to leave Afghanistan for good. Seriously why are we afraid of these Afghan talibans if there is a blow back than can't we take them on just like ttp scumbags.

China must be wondering why are we even part of these so called reconciliation talks lol.

 

[A-Team]

Actually we are going no where with Afghan policy perhaps waiting for US to leave Afghanistan for good. Seriously why are we afraid of these Afghan talibans if there is a blow back than can't we take them on just like ttp scumbags.

Any sane foreign policy operator will tell you that the US is here to stay, in Afghanistan do you think they have invested this much in Afghanistan to leave? The Afghan government is a willing partner and thus see US/NATO presence as a strategic counter balance for others who are seeking on destabilizing her.

Investing a on an extremist group to confront US/Afghan government is self defeating and will isolate their backers even further.

 

[Saifullah Sani]

Taliban confirm leader Mullah Akhtar Mansoor killed in US drone strike
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/21/us-airstrike-taliban-leader-mullah-akhtar-mansoor

 

[jetray]

Taliban confirm leader Mullah Akhtar Mansoor killed in US drone strike
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/21/us-airstrike-taliban-leader-mullah-akhtar-mansoor

Thats pretty strange they did not even deny it ,that they usually resort to. Expected some usual bravado from them denying his death. Seems that this operation had pakistan backing. Something cooking behind the scenes.
Did denial drama of F16 bring pakistan on board?

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

These Afghan Talibans actually are not listening their masters Pakistan at all. Perhaps US did this after reaching to conclusion in 4 nation talks. Pakistan might be onboard which I am hoping for. If we cannot act against Afghan talibans than better let US fire these drones strikes. Just share the God damnit intelligence. We already have silent pact with US over drones strike in Pakistan.

 

[Lightning Soul]

ISPR should come with a good response from this. Akhtar Mansur was most likely to be favorable towards the peace talks and also in good views of China and Pak. Now if his death his real then a big blow towards peace progress.
More importantly this incident will be another source of embarrassment for violation of our airspace and that too for the first time in Balochistan province at a time where CPEC is on limelight. The mighty US probably unauthorized drone strike will be a big blow to political leadership, foreign relations and Military leadership.

 

[Zibago]

U.S. drone strike in Pakistan kills driver, passenger, not Mullah Mansoor -- Pakistani media
2016-05-22 12:53 Xinhua Editor: Li Yan
The U.S. drone strike launched in Pakistan on Saturday afternoon (Pakistan time) has killed a taxi driver and a passenger, but not Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mansoor, reported local Urdu TV channel Samaa on Sunday.
The report said that the bodies of the two killed have been brought to a hospital in Nushki, a district close to Ahmad Wal, a small town in Pakistan's southwest province of Balochistan along the Pak-Afghan border, where the U.S. drones launched a strike on Saturday, which reportedly killed the Taliban leader Mullah Mansoor.

Two dead bodies in Quetta hospital

 

[saiyan0321]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1259926/afghan-taliban-chief-mansour-killed-in-air-strike-us

WASHINGTON: A US air strike has killed Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour in a remote area along the Pak-Afghan border, the Pentagon announced late on Saturday night.

“Today, the US Department of Defence conducted a precision air strike, targeting Mullah Mansour in a remote area in the Pakistan-Afghan border region,” said Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook.

He said the president of the United States had authorised the air strike and that Pakistan and Afghanistan were both notified of it.

“Mullah Mansour was the leader of the Afghan Taliban and presented a continuing threat to our personnel in Afghanistan and to Afghan civilians, Afghan security forces and coalition members across Afghanistan.”

Mansour was prohibiting Taliban leaders from participating in peace talks, claims Pentagon
The US official noted that Mullah Mansour was an obstacle to reconciliation between the Afghan government and the Taliban and was prohibiting the Taliban leaders from participating in peace talks with the government that could lead to an end to the Afghan conflict.

The Pentagon said that since the death of Mullah Omar and Mullah Mansour’s assumption of leadership, the Taliban had conducted many attacks that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Afghan civilians and security forces as well as numerous US and coalition personnel.

“We are still assessing the results of the strike and will provide more information as it becomes available,” Mr Cook added.

Diplomatic sources in Washington said that Mullah Mansour’s death would not cause any major concerns in Pakistan’s power circles.

The sources claimed that Mullah Mansour had some ties with the Pakistanis in the past but relations became strained after he became leader of the Afghan Taliban. Pakistan made several attempts in the recent past to persuade him to join the reconciliation talks but he refused.

Diplomatic observers in Washington, however, said that Mullah Mansour’s death would further fragment the Taliban movement, which split into several factions after Mullah Omar’s death.

“His death will have both negative and positive consequences,” said one diplomatic source. “Sometimes, it is easier to deal with a unified leadership and sometimes a weakened leadership is better. We have to wait and see how this unfolds.”

Published in Dawn, May 22nd, 2016



Interesting.

Now this is very interesting. I was under the impression that mullah akhtar mansour was pro peace deal which was the reason behind the division between Taliban .... Anyhow as I mentioned elsewhere Afghanistan army has a rare chance to smash then big and reclaim lost territory especially in Helmand which us rich in opium and Taliban both recruit and money point.

The offensive Taliban will be defensive.

As for our position. It is very peculiar no doubt about it. The beat option is that we announce that we were involved bcz just a few days ago we had that four nation meet so there is a very good chance this was done knowingly and as the dawn article is painting US statements I would say that it was done knowingly.

And this must be our position.

 

[Side-Winder]

Ok here we go

 

[The Vicious Kind]

To be honest, his killing inst such a bad thing for us. If the Taliban were really inclined towards a peaceful settlement then they wouldn't have announced the offensive in the first place. Pakistan's influence over them is vastly overstated.

 

[Kompromat]

Welcome to Afghan civil war 2016 - 2030.

Welcome to Afghan civil war 2016 - 2030.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Finally a sane post on the topic, the magnitude of this episode will come clear in the coming days and I would be interested to see what the ISPR says about it or will they leave to the civilians like the OBL case to live with the consequences.

Some of the keyboard warriors here seems not to understand that this episode complicates Pakistani situation even further.

1. If Mansoor was taken out without Pakistani consent then, the question of sovereignty arises, how can a country with Nukes and boasting some of the best security apparatus have its airspace violated like this.

2. If he was taken with Pakistani consent then there will be blowback from the Afghan Talis and their brethrens.

The policy of confronting the TTP and not the Afghan Talis is self defeating and isolating Pakistan further.

Get this through your thick head, unlike you we are a sovereign nation and not some western or Indian stooges, Afghan Taliban's are not our enemy and we will not fight an American war for you or them, fight your own battles and stop whining.

We have allies in terms of China, potential Russia, Turkey and the Arab states so tell us again how are we isolated?

 

[noksss]

I doubt Pakistan will ever agree to any conflict against afghan taliban as they are our only hope to isolate india in Afghanistan. From what i can see Americans might turn to us as no. 1 target as they are no longer engaged with Iran.

So you acknowledge that you support a terrorist organization

 

[CriticalThinker02]

So you acknowledge that you support a terrorist organization

Afghan Taliban are an ethnic pushtun group, if they were a "terrorist organisation" then how come the Americans themselves were/are willing to have talks with them?.

Wiping them out would be like wiping out African Americans from the United States.