T-84 oplot M fails testing what now for the army, in terms of tanks?

[saurav]

Good Choice.. a JV with China would have surely given more legroom to local industries, right..?

 

[kaonalpha]

@kaonalpha

So this means that AL-Khalid project is officaly dead, no?

Al khalid stays

 

[cabatli_53]

I agree. In this case I don't see much room for Ukraine. I think Turkey has the most viable option and is arguably the best machine.

It would be great If Turkey and Pakistan collaborated over Altay project brother but Altay needs 1-2 years for serial production. Evaluation of Altay has already been proceeding but It is for sure that If Pakistan describe a requirement, Turkey will never stay behind for competition, since Turkey is seriously interested in Pakistani projects but I personally didn't meet any news and gossip regarding that.

 

[Bratva]

@kaonalpha

Is Zaslon APS included in the package?

Yes. You can see the APS in pics even. Though not a hard kill, but soft kill APS

 

[Malik Alashter]

Thought Pakistan making tanks has the ability to design and build them.

 

[s.k]

i think this will be next al haider block and al khalid will be armata or altay lo

 

[Bratva]

@kaonalpha

So this means that AL-Khalid project is officaly dead, no?

In 10 years, Only 450 al Khalid have been manufactured. We need to replace 1500 tanks in like 10 years. This is where foreign tanks comes in the picture

 

[Gufi]

It would be great If Turkey and Pakistan collaborated over Altay project brother but Altay needs 1-2 years for serial production. Evaluation of Altay has already been proceeding but It is for sure that If Pakistan describe a requirement, Turkey will never stay behind for competition, since Turkey is seriously interested in Pakistani projects but I personally didn't meet any news and gossip regarding that.

I think I read that the engine is not local but an import, I am not sure about this, if you could tell me what the case is? because any engine originating from western entities would be worrisome for Pakistan as sanctions have crippled our armed forces at vital times before.

 

[kaonalpha]

@kaonalpha

Is Zaslon APS included in the package?

I'm not at liberty to say. But it will be customized according to our needs.

 

[Basel]

You expect a link this early. Please the reason I uploaded the above picss are because they have overcome the trials In Bhawalpur. The MBT-3000 failed. Plus order from above not to encourage chinese at all.

If MBT-3000 have failed, which is successor of MBT-2000, which derivative is our AK. Does it mean AK not good tank because even successor have failed?

Oplot M had got a upper hand against MBT3000 ... it is a better choice

Please compare both machines.

 

[Kowak]

T-84 is a good choice as MBT but in 2015 there are several different tanks to try. Especially for protection.

 

[Basel]

Looks great, it's still being evaluated though right?
I feel we are better off going with the Turks and Altay, which is turning out to be a beast.

Agreed Pakistan should work with Turkey to develop AK-2.

 

[kaonalpha]

By failed I mean our military does not see them as reliable as Ukraine or Russian counterparts.
The al khalid survived because we did our own customization and redesigning. Or else the mbt 2000 for china is a failure.

If MBT-3000 have failed, which is successor of MBT-2000, which derivative is our AK. Does it mean AK not good tank because even successor have failed?



Please compare both machines.

 

[FunkyGen]

Thought Pakistan making tanks has the ability to design and build them.

we can manufacture them but not upto the quality level as let's say the russians, or the ukrainians for that matter...
i believe we did wish that the chinese would develop something more suitable but seeing their tank i felt like they didn't put a whole lot attention to their tank development...
ukrainian r&d in this sector is without any doubt superior to ours and since we already operate their tanks anyways we know em pretty well...
surprisingly even though the chief didn't even visit ukraine, it seems that his trips certainly don't revolve around munitions rather something else...

 

[waz]

I think I read that the engine is not local but an import, I am not sure about this, if you could tell me what the case is? because any engine originating from western entities would be worrisome for Pakistan as sanctions have crippled our armed forces at vital times before.

Turkey's next batch of Altays will have their own engine. This issue has been taken care of bro. There is a long thread on the Turkish section about this great tank.