Syrian vice president Shara defects from Assad gov't

[PäkPõwér]

I hope that FSA loses badly and all these conspiracies against Syria fall flat on their faces. It pains me to see the "Fake Syrian Army" butchering people under the pretense of being 'revolutionaries'. FSA is just a propaganda group that murders Syrians in cold blood and then makes videos of the same grisly scenes to be put under the name of Bashar's army. Bashar's army is fighting for the true cause against the international media, Western powers and, sadly enough, some 'Muslim' states.

 

[vK_man]

I do respect your admiration towards regime but in my humble opinion you need to think comprehensively and pragmatically.

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Well ,elections are to be held in 2014 ,unless NATO installs the muslim brotherhood dictatorship in Syria.

 

[explorer9]

Let me ask you a questions, your fighting with someone, why would you run away if you're winning? again my point is their defections is nothing, they are defecting and running away, why? because they have no place in Syria for them, and the go on TV from Qatar saying FSA and Opposition fighters control 70% of Syria, why did they run away ? why didn't they stay in that 70%?

Name me one innocent human being in this world? and you are telling me FSA are innocent? For God Sake, the Syrian army job to is defend, and yes innocent people will die, if the FSA cared about Syrians they would have not hided in people houses and neighborhood but instead fight somewhere in the desert or the somewhere with no people like in cities.

FSA is as innocent or as cruel as Al-Assad and his regime, this is an equal propaganda like Al-Assad terminated his Priminister after defecting nd reaching to Jordan. that FSA controls 70% of Syrian land may be they have there fighters in 70% land but Government troops with Tanks, Artillery & fighter planes can reach them at there will like they did AZZAZ.

In my view both are criminals but in your view may Al-Assad, but Al-Assad bore more responsibility as he did not here his peoples voice when they were demonstrating peacefully on the streets of Syrian cities.

Why did they block Aldounia TV in Europe? and why did the "Arab" league required Nile Sat and Arab Sat to block the Syrian Satellite Channel along with Aldounia TV? Is this freedom? even the west is blocking many sites and online channels to hide the truth.

Because they have the power to do so and every one is doing there best in there own capacity..

 

[Syrian Lion]

FSA is as innocent or as cruel as Al-Assad and his regime, this is an equal propaganda like Al-Assad terminated his Priminister after defecting nd reaching to Jordan. that FSA controls 70% of Syrian land may be they have there fighters in 70% land but Government troops with Tanks, Artillery & fighter planes can reach them at there will like they did AZZAZ.

In my view both are criminals but in your view may Al-Assad, but Al-Assad bore more responsibility as he did not here his peoples voice when they were demonstrating peacefully on the streets of Syrian cities.

There is not such thing peaceful anti-government demonstration in Syria, they even killed each other, and video it to blame the government, a terrorists killed his own brother who was demonstrating, he was supposed to shoot at a gathering to blame the government he shot at it and killed his bother, he went to video the body, and found him flat on the ground, he turned himself in . If you're looking for peaceful anti-government demonstrators in the middle east, look at Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.

Because they have the power to do so and every one is doing there best in there own capacity..

Wait, i thought it was about democracy and accepting others point of view? so why do they block TV channels and website? what happened to their democracy preaching ?
you're double standard ?

 

[PäkPõwér]

If you're looking for peaceful anti-government demonstrators in the middle east, look at Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.

Exactly.

The Bahrain Army Just Started Firing Machine Guns Right Into The Protesters - Business Insider

New shocking video of Bahrain Army shooting protesters with automatic guns - YouTube

 

[explorer9]

There is not such thing peaceful anti-government demonstration in Syria, they even killed each other, and video it to blame the government, a terrorists killed his own brother who was demonstrating, he was supposed to shoot at a gathering to blame the government he shot at it and killed his bother, he went to video the body, and found him flat on the ground, he turned himself in . If you're looking for peaceful anti-government demonstrators in the middle east, look at Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.



Wait, i thought it was about democracy and accepting others point of view? so why do they block TV channels and website? what happened to their democracy preaching ?
you're double standard ?

That is not my double standard, that is theirs like Al-Assad never allowed International media to report from Syria, only pro regime RT, CCTV,Press TV and few others are allowed.

Exactly.

The Bahrain Army Just Started Firing Machine Guns Right Into The Protesters - Business Insider

New shocking video of Bahrain Army shooting protesters with automatic guns - YouTube

Look RT news ??? the Al Khalifa regime may deny this or boast this we allow free media access to demonstration sites.

 

[Syrian Lion]

That is not my double standard, that is theirs like Al-Assad never allowed International media to report from Syria, only pro regime RT, CCTV,Press TV and few others are allowed.



Look RT news ??? the Al Khalifa regime may deny this or boast this we allow free media access to demonstration sites.

Saudi Arabia made a fatwa saying protesting is illegal, anyway, International media is filled in Syria, there are German, Italian, UK channel 4, and much more. you just don't follow German news do you? Syria has the right to not let CIA spies from CNN, and other American media without a proper visa and administration.

you're truly double standard.

 

[vK_man]

That is not my double standard, that is theirs like Al-Assad never allowed International media to report from Syria, only pro regime RT, CCTV,Press TV and few others are allowed.



Look RT news ??? the Al Khalifa regime may deny this or boast this we allow free media access to demonstration sites.

That is not my double standard, that is theirs like Al-Assad never allowed International media to report from Syria, only pro regime RT, CCTV,Press TV and few others are allowed.


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Initially ,there were independent French reporters in Syria.But there have been certain things that happened in Libya which made the Syrian govt nervous in my opinion:

In a 31 October 2011 interview on Radio Canada, Lieutenant-General Charles Bouchard, who led Operation Unified Protector in Libya, revealed that an analysis unit was set up at NATO headquarters in Naples.

Its mission was to study and decipher what was happening on the ground, that is to say both the movements of the Libyan Army and those of the rebels.

To fortify the unit, several information networks were created. "The intelligence came from many sources, including the media who were on the ground and provided us with a lot of information regarding the intentions and the location of the ground forces."

This is the first time a NATO official admits that foreign journalists in Libya were assets of the Atlantic Alliance.

Shortly before the fall of Tripoli, French journalist Thierry Meyssan caused a stir by affirming that most Western journalists staying at the Hotel Rixos were NATO agents. In particular, he pointed the finger at the teams working for AP, BBC, CNN and Fox News.
NATO commander admits journalists in Libya were NATO informants

There have seen such allegations previously,Like in Panama wars and Nicaraguan ops of USA.

 

[explorer9]

Saudi Arabia made a fatwa saying protesting is illegal, anyway, International media is filled in Syria, there are German, Italian, UK channel 4, and much more. you just don't follow German news do you? Syria has the right to not let CIA spies from CNN, and other American media without a proper visa and administration.

you're truly double standard.

My standards may sound double to you as it does not matches with yours, as i can breath, protest, put my different opinion freely in a democratic country

 

[vK_man]

Saudi Arabia made a fatwa saying protesting is illegal, anyway, International media is filled in Syria, there are German, Italian, UK channel 4, and much more. you just don't follow German news do you? Syria has the right to not let CIA spies from CNN, and other American media without a proper visa and administration.

you're truly double standard.

didn't the FSA try to get a Channel 4 reporter killed so that it could be used as an propaganda brownie against the Syrian govt?

My standards may sound double to you as it does not matches with yours, as i can breath, protest, put my different opinion freely in a democratic country

really? Because NGO's for tribals and tribal activists are harassed like anything by the police here and deliberately labelled maoist.You remind of the politicans ever shape shifting .And there were several anti-corruption protests in Syria in 2006 to 2008.

 

[Syrian Lion]

didn't the FSA try to get a Channel 4 reporter killed so that it could be used as an propaganda brownie against the Syrian govt?

yes a British reporter, but i forgot from what channel, and also the F'S'A kidnapped some journalists. and also the French Ministry of Defense reported that Jacquier was killed by the terrorists F'S'A.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle-east-africa/196356-gilles-jacquier-victim-syrian-rebels.html

 

[explorer9]

Initially ,there were independent French reporters in Syria.But there have been certain things that happened in Libya which made the Syrian govt nervous in my opinion:

There have seen such allegations previously,Like in Panama wars and Nicaraguan ops of USA.

Yes as i said before Its a 4th generation warfare, It is being said that most of the big generalist and beuro chief chiefs of big media houses are spies/informer of the big intelligence agencies.

 

[NZSarvo]

Hello all
I have been following the Libya/Syrian conflicts for 18 months
Have found your Forum via Google trying to find out about latest defection of Syrian VP
Have found these post of all of yours interesting and good clean reading. Good on all of you - given differ of opinions somewhat !!!
Lets wait and see for 100% that the VP has defected to Jordon - only this will be proven when/if he shows on live Media in Jordon or wherever
Reports are coming out of him been killed in his home - this I doubt
Other reports on other GVT defectors - 1 million up front and 20k per month for 20 years - all care of Qatar

 

[explorer9]

didn't the FSA try to get a Channel 4 reporter killed so that it could be used as an propaganda brownie against the Syrian govt?



really? Because NGO's for tribals and tribal activists are harassed like anything by the police here and deliberately labelled maoist.You remind of the politicans ever shape shifting .And there were several anti-corruption protests in Syria in 2006 to 2008.

Yes they are being harassed and put in jail under forged cases even professors and doctors who help the tribal people are being put in jail and termed as Maoist sympathizers that is condemnable and must be corrected otherwise these people will come and take revenge in big cities of India like FSA is doing in Syria.

Hello all
I have been following the Libya/Syrian conflicts for 18 months
Have found your Forum via Google trying to find out about latest defection of Syrian VP
Have found these post of all of yours interesting and good clean reading. Good on all of you - given differ of opinions somewhat !!!
Lets wait and see for 100% that the VP has defected to Jordon - only this will be proven when/if he shows on live Media in Jordon or wherever
Reports are coming out of him been killed in his home - this I doubt
Other reports on other GVT defectors - 1 million up front and 20k per month for 20 years - all care of Qatar

There will be 3 individuals who will defect and one of them trying to make it out tonight.

 

[Doctor Death]

West is silent on the presence of Al Qaeda elements in FSA.