Syria and Iraq

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Syrian Girl Mysteriously 'Saved' Again and Again (PHOTO, VIDEO)

Do you have shame? Do u have kids? Rescuer came out with two kids in his hands and then one gave to another man:

Whats ur problem with that?

This case is yet more proof that Western propaganda has easy time not only distorting facts but garbling overtly when it has to persuade its audience in «Assad’s horrendous crimes».

Those who doubt that such acting (including heavy make-up) with the same young actress which can make millions of Internet users weep could be real we would like to remind a series of photos made in 2015 and casting a light upon how modern informational wars are fought:

We remind that the users claimed that it had something to do with the Iranian special services but there was no reliable and trustworthy information about who did that and when.

Thats actually an Iranian fake. Little stupid troll.

http://en.farsnews.com/imgrep.aspx?nn=13940108000196

The Iraqi government is no saint. The methods they used terrorised Sunnis till the point they embraced Isis.

Sure they are no saints. There are plenty of crimes in Iraq. But thats nowhere near Syria.

 

[Serpentine]

The Iraqi government is no saint. The methods they used terrorised Sunnis till the point they embraced Isis.

Ok, let's forget about Iraq and Syria, how come 'Sunnis' have embraced terrorists in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Somalia, Libya, Yemen etc? Oh they must have been 'marginalized', poor guys. When they are bored, they just join terrorist groups.

PS: I could easily rephrase your post like this:

"The Pakistani government is no saint. The methods they used terrorized Sunnis till the point they embraced TTP/LeJ."

How does it work out for you? Yes, it's easy to sit behind screen and have a sectarian narrative that suits you without knowing much about what actually has happened in Iraq.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Ok, let's forget about Iraq and Syria, how come 'Sunnis' have embraced terrorists in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Somalia, Libya, Yemen etc? Oh they must have been 'marginalized', poor guys. When they are bored, they just join terrorist groups.

PS: I could easily rephrase your post like this:

The Pakistani government is no saint. The methods they used terrorised Sunnis till the point they embraced TTP/LeJ.

Their situations are different. Many Pakistanis believe that it is a moral obligation to support them. Many Afghanis support Taliban because they have no where else to turn. The government is corrupt to the core. Many rather have Taliban rule. For Libya, most of them didn't support the fighters against Gaddafi. If you looked at green square 1000s in Tripoli opposed the bombings. And so on for other nations. In Iraqs case it was because of sectarianism. No one denies this.

And this is not about Pakistan. What is true is what is true. After Saddam the Shia humiliated the Sunnis. Stay on topic. Saddam was a puppet. The US didn't care what he did to Shias. See how it works? Play both sides to suit your benefit.

 

[Serpentine]

Their situations are different. Many Pakistanis believe that it is a moral obligation to support them. Many Afghanis support Taliban because they have no where else to turn. The government is corrupt to the core. Many rather have Taliban rule. For Libya, most of them didn't support the fighters against Gaddafi. If you looked at green square 1000s in Tripoli opposed the bombings. And so on for other nations. In Iraqs case it was because of sectarianism. No one denies this.

And this is not about Pakistan. What is true is what is true. After Saddam the Shia humiliated the Sunnis. Stay on topic. Saddam was a puppet. The US didn't care what he did to Shias. See how it works? Play both sides to suit your benefit.

No they are not different, it's just a problem for you because Pakistan is a Sunni majority country, Iraq isn't, otherwise they are all exactly the same cases. The so called Sunni terrorism (what groups like AQ, ISIS, Taliban etc call themselves) is a virus spread all over the region.

The terrorist attacks in Iraq started right after US invasion in 2003, not after years. The terrorists were always there, the difference was that before 2003, terrorists themselves were ruling Iraq, but after that, when they saw they are not ruling anymore, they started using terrorism in mass scale.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

No they are not different, it's just a problem for you because Pakistan is a Sunni majority country, Iraq isn't, otherwise they are all exactly the same cases. The so called Sunni terrorism (what groups like AQ, ISIS, Taliban etc call themselves) is a virus spread all over the region.

The terrorist attacks in Iraq started right after US invasion in 2003, not after years. The terrorists were always there, the difference was that before 2003, terrorists themselves were ruling Iraq, but after that, when they saw they are not ruling anymore, they started using terrorism in mass scale.

Events like Fallujah create them. They were targeting American troops. Everyone has there own definition of who a terrorist is. I'm not defending Saddams rule. But denying the Shia had nothing to do with Sunnis embracing Isis is absurd.

 

[HAIDER]

I regularly post here about crimes of Assad regime and his allies. Assad supporters say that I am doing it because I "hate Iran", that I am trying to "create hate towards Shia" etc etc. But if what they say it's true then why I am not doing the same about Iraqi civil war? I've seen videos with terrible crimes vs. civilians by Shia militias there. Many times civilians die in bombings etc.

The reason is simple. In every war there are crimes and mistakes, but crimes of Iraqi gov and their allies are no where near to crimes of Assad & Co:

1) Unlike Assad Iraqi gov did not slaughter unarmed protestors.
2) Unlike Assad Iraqi gov does not employ industrial scale torture
3) Iraqi gov did not butcher civilians and kids like Assadists literally did in Houla, Qubeir, Daraya, Banias...
4) Iraqi gov does not barrel bomb civilians, Assad is doing it on daily basis.
5) Unlike Assad Iraqi gov does not use chemical weapons.
6) Unlike Assad Iraqi gov does not use incendiary and cluster weapons on cities and villages.
7) Unlike Assad Iraqi gov does not use foreign militias.
8) Unlike Assad Iraqi gov does not use ethnic cleansing policies.
9) Unlike Assad Iraqi gov does not use scorched earth genocide policy, burning corps, attacking hospitals, bakeries...
10) Unlike Assad Iraqi gov does not use genocide starvation policies.


Assad crimes are on pair only with Nazis and my stance against him has nothing to do with his religion or sect (especially since he is an atheist like me).

lolzz....paid well ?

 

[Serpentine]

Events like Fallujah create them. They were targeting American troops. Everyone has there own definition of who a terrorist is. I'm not defending Saddams rule. But denying the Shia had nothing to do with Sunnis embracing Isis is absurd.

What events of Fallujah? I said terrorist attacks in Iraq started right after US invasion in 2003! There was nothing happening in Fallujah back then, there was even no Shia militant groups at very beginning. You are just trying to bring excuse for why terrorist apologists join terrorists, it doesn't work like that. I could do exact same thing for TTP, LeJ, AQ, Taliban.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

What events of Fallujah? I said terrorist attacks in Iraq started right after US invasion in 2003! There was nothing happening in Fallujah back then, there was even no Shia militant groups at very beginning. You are just trying to bring excuse for why terrorist apologists join terrorists, it doesn't work like that. I could do exact same thing for TTP, LeJ, AQ, Taliban.

Do you not know what happened in 2003 in Fallujah? American troops fired on civilians for protesting their presence. The US claimed they were being fired on but at this point who believes them? On top of that using depleted uranium isn't the best of ideas either. These groups are formed for a reason. Not looking at the root cause is a reason they are able to flourish. But if you do that the you're labelled as an apologist..

 

[Serpentine]

Do you not know what happened in 2003 in Fallujah? American troops fired on civilians for protesting their presence. The US claimed they were being fired on but at this point who believes them? On top of that using depleted uranium isn't the best of ideas either. These groups are formed for a reason. Not looking at the root cause is a reason they are able to flourish. But if you do that the you're labelled as an apologist..

I thought you were talking about Shias oppressing Sunnis, making them join ISIS (regardless of how ridciculous this excuse is) now it's all about American troops? Americans supported Saddam when he killed tens of thousands of Shias, but not a single terrorist group was formed with such excuse. Americans also killed many Shia civilians after 2003, all Iraqis suffered together actually, but it was Shias who suffered both during Saddam and after Saddam, but it wasn't Shias who formed ISIS like terror groups blowing up women and kids and streets. I guess it's like broad daylight that those who are terrorists in nature will join the terrorists no matter what excuse they bring.

The interesting part is, those who you claim joined ISIS because they were 'oppressed' killed and tortured many fellow Sunnis too. It was only Sunni-majority cities in Iraq that fell to ISIS and it was only those cities who were destroyed because of this terrorist group. So those poor 'marginalized' terrorists better think twice before forming another major terror group.

 

[GiannKall]

No they are not different, it's just a problem for you because Pakistan is a Sunni majority country, Iraq isn't, otherwise they are all exactly the same cases. The so called Sunni terrorism (what groups like AQ, ISIS, Taliban etc call themselves) is a virus spread all over the region.

The terrorist attacks in Iraq started right after US invasion in 2003, not after years. The terrorists were always there, the difference was that before 2003, terrorists themselves were ruling Iraq, but after that, when they saw they are not ruling anymore, they started using terrorism in mass scale.

Saddams and Assads regime are exactly the same thing. This is what frustrates my with shias in this forum. When we talk about Saddam "oh look he was a ruthless terrorist". When we talk about Assad "oh look he is fighting terrorists". THE SAME regime but for some people what is good and what is bad has to do with whether is shia or not. Bty Iraq has a shia majority but not overwhelmingly. 40% of the population are not shias

 

[WaLeEdK2]

I thought you were talking about Shias oppressing Sunnis, making them join ISIS (regardless of how ridciculous this excuse is) now it's all about American troops? Americans supported Saddam when he killed tens of thousands of Shias, but not a single terrorist group was formed with such excuse. Americans also killed many Shia civilians after 2003, all Iraqis suffered together actually, but it was Shias who suffered both during Saddam and after Saddam, but it wasn't Shias who formed ISIS like terror groups blowing up women and kids and streets. I guess it's like broad daylight that those who are terrorists in nature will join the terrorists no matter what excuse they bring.

The interesting part is, those who you claim joined ISIS because they were 'oppressed' killed and tortured many fellow Sunnis too. It was only Sunni-majority cities in Iraq that fell to ISIS and it was only those cities who were destroyed because of this terrorist group. So those poor 'marginalized' terrorists better think twice before forming another major terror group.

What I'm saying is the American government supported the new Iraqi government under Maliki that discriminated Sunnis. The Sunnis saw Isis as a liberation movement. The Sunnis I hope realised their mistake. Both sides are in the wrong in the wrong in Iraq. They used Saddam then they used Maliki. They were never about peace in Iraq. In fact the opposite.

 

[Hamza913]

Assad is Nazi style criminal, who tortures, literally butchers, starves, barrel bombs, gasses thousands of kids. He should be shot like mad dog with all his supporters.

So you want to shoot me for having an opinion? So much for an open discussion...

Are there still some people who believe the Western media after all the lies about Iraq, Libya? As Einstein said: "Insanity is repeating the same actions and expecting different results".

Yes, because humanity is full of idiots.

. In case of Assad bulk of his force are foreigners.

Is that a joke? Are you seriously suggesting Assad has more foreign help than the rebels? Mate, your own hospitals are healing these fighters and sending them back to keep on destroying Syria.

 

[T-72]

It's not that easy.

I know, but any change in strategic objectives from the US's current ones is a good change, and Trump is promising a 180 from where they are right now, so keep your eyes peeled for the US verdict, it will have major consequences on the ground in Syria very soon.

 

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So you want to shoot me for having an opinion? So much for an open discussion...

I meant who actively supports war genocidal criminal Assad. You can support serial killed while siting on ur sofa. But if you actively support a killer u became a companion in crime. As any lawyer.

Is that a joke? Are you seriously suggesting Assad has more foreign help than the rebels? Mate, your own hospitals are healing these fighters and sending them back to keep on destroying Syria.

LOL, are you serious? Every week Assad gets 2 huge ships full of weapons:

Every day Assad Russians make 50 sorties in support of Assad.

Here armed to teeth foreign militias fighting for Assad:

What foreign aid rebels get? - 40 ATGMs a month? - All that aid u can load into a one SUV.

 

[damm1t]

Syrian Girl Mysteriously 'Saved' Again and Again (PHOTO, VIDEO)

This girl sure gets herself into a lot of Russian airstrikes. Luckily there are always anti-Assad activists near by to pull her from the rubble

Originally appeared at Russkaya Vesna

This time we offer our readers an opportunity to be film critics and to assess acting talents and make-up artist’s work. Because that’s how one should examine a footage with a girl who presumably suffered from Bashar al-Assad’s army attacks.

At first sight the photos which went viral in the Arab and Western media on August 28 2016 excite pity and seemingly righteous indignation: a peaceful Lamb of God aka White Helmets’ volunteer is carrying two injured children. Social media say the photos have been made after attack on Al-Nayrab(Arabic: النيرب ) district of Aleppo.

We remind that disputable activity of that «volunteer organization» has been picked to pieces in Russian Spring’s review: Armed "saviours" under "an-Nusra" flags — Russian Spring investigation of White Helmets' strange "peacemaking" in Syria (PHOTOS, VIDEO 18+), that is why today we are going to focus on the footage only.

Pay attention to the injured girl: scared, disheveled, with blood on her face.

But she was «saved» more than once: the same girl is carried by the three (!) different «volunteers» each after each.

Here is the girl in another man’s hands: still White Helmets’ emblem and car got into the shot:

And now — the third «saviour»:

These photos went viral in the Western media and social networks. It’s obvious that it has been filmed by many photographers including those working for the biggest informational agencies.

Just like that the oldest Israeli edition Haaretz published that picture and indicated some Abdalrhman Ismail working for Reuters as an author.

The first question is: why was the girl carried by several men, why did they pass her to each other? The answer is simple: to make more tear-squeezing photos for the Western media.

But the main thing is that the «volunteers» who took part in fabricating photo- and video materials found perfect model and decided to involve her in the other propaganda pieces.

The footage spread by Sky News on September 24 show White Helmets’ «volunteers» «saving» the same girls once again.

This case is yet more proof that Western propaganda has easy time not only distorting facts but garbling overtly when it has to persuade its audience in «Assad’s horrendous crimes».

It doesn't prove anything... That little girl, same day, same time, same incident, carried by different people in chaos... Thats quiet normal, rescuer gives her to aid-guy, and he gives to medic etc.. By the way photographers take shots etc ...