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Sweden: "Turkey wants things we can't give"

This is the mentality I am talking about, please read the news below. When you get to the root of these behavioral tendencies, you mostly find an orientalist arrogance that is actually racist reflexes, contemptuous of the east and cannot stomach negotiating even the slightest legitimate demand on equal terms.



Swedish professor punishes Turkish student over Sweden’s NATO bid​

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A Turkish psychology student who applied for an internship at Stockholm University received a shocking response from one of its professors.​

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A Stockholm University professor barred a Turkish student from attending an internship programme, claiming he cannot host her since Türkiye has been blocking Sweden’s entry into NATO.

TRT World was given access to the email sent by Professor Per Carlbring, who leads a clinical psychology research group at the university.

Fatma Zehra S., a third-year undergraduate studying in the Department of Psychology at Ibn Haldun University in Istanbul, was accepted by an Erasmus+ fund for a summer 2023 internship at a university of her choosing.

One of the internships she applied for was at Stockholm University in Sweden. In an email she sent on November 23, 2022, Fatma outlined her interest in being considered for a research project led by professor Carlbring.

A few hours later, Carlbring replied: “I would love to host you. However, since Turkey does not allow Sweden to join NATO, I have to decline. Sorry!”

“After getting this answer, I was simply shocked," Fatma tells TRT World. "It took me a long time to process it."

The email response Fatma received regarding her application from Professor Per Carlbring on November 23, 2022.


The email response Fatma received regarding her application from Professor Per Carlbring on November 23, 2022. (Fatma Zehra S.)

Finland and Sweden formally applied to join NATO in May, abandoning decades of military non-alignment, a decision spurred by Russia’s war against Ukraine.

But Türkiye – a NATO member for over 70 years – voiced objections, saying the two countries have been tolerating and supporting terrorist groups.

In June 2022, Türkiye and the two Nordic countries signed a memorandum at a NATO summit to address Ankara’s security concerns, paving the way for their eventual membership in the alliance. Seven months have passed since the signing of the memorandum and Sweden it yet to fulfill the agreed recommendations.

Fredrik Jonsson, head of the Department of Psychology at Stockholm University, tells TRT World in a statement that: “We receive many inquiries from students who are interested in visiting us as research interns. We are unable to receive them all, but expect that any request is responded to in a professional manner. In this case, as soon as we learnt about this issue we acted and have handled it according to our routines.”

Professor Carlbring did not respond to TRT World’s request for comment.

Fatma thought her experience could just be the “tip of the iceberg” and was serious enough to register a formal complaint. “If he did this to me, he would do this to other students with different racial backgrounds who apply to the university,” she says.

She proceeded to file a discrimination complaint report with the university on December 5, describing the professor’s response as being “based on political considerations” and “discriminatory if not completely racist”.
“Mixing a simple citizen and student – who wishes to pursue her studies in the best conditions possible – with the political stance of the government of the country she’s from, is an infamous way of thinking and judging one’s skills and character,” she wrote in her complaint.

Fatma Zehra S. filed a complaint report with Stockholm University, describing Professor Carlbring’s response being “based on political considerations” and “discriminatory if not completely racist.”


Fatma Zehra S. filed a complaint report with Stockholm University, describing Professor Carlbring’s response being “based on political considerations” and “discriminatory if not completely racist.” (Gokhan Deniz / TRTWorld)

She received a response from the deputy head of the psychology department, Torun Lindholm Ojmyr, on December 6 apologising for the incident. Ojmyr claimed Professor Carlbring admitted that his behaviour was inappropriate and wrong, and that “several active measures are planned at the department going forward,” including “training on equal terms and the Swedish Discrimination Act”.

However, Fatma feels those statements don’t go far enough. “What I wanted them to do is to take active measures about his behaviour,” she said. Discrimination training is fine, but how can it be measured, she wondered, questioning whether it will be sufficient so that such incidents do not occur again in the future.

Nor has she received a formal apology from the professor directly. “At this point, I am hoping that he would send me an apology, but he has not, and I am disappointed about it.”

“I think this behaviour is childish, racist, and really inappropriate. I am mentally strong, but other students who have insecurities about applying to different programmes, will not be able to recover from such an answer.”

Despite the negative experience, Fatma says her application was accepted by a different professor in the psychology department at the same university, and she plans to go ahead with the internship this summer.

Relations between Türkiye and Sweden continue to be tense. New evidence of PKK and YPG terror supporters organising in the heart of the Swedish capital Stockholm emerged on January 12. Scores of terror supporters gathered outside the historical City Hall and raised anti-Türkiye slogans. They also hung an effigy of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, shouting racial slurs and making threats of violence against Türkiye.

Since the Swedish government has failed to crack down on the PKK/YPG safehouses, allowing their supporters to freely organise and conduct numerous anti-Türkiye and pro-terrorism demonstrations in the country, Ankara refuses to yield to such provocations and continues to hold its ground on barring a terror-friendly country from entering NATO.

Amidst this toxic environment, Turkish nationals in Sweden are feeling vulnerable to PKK/YPG attacks. According to Turkish Ambassador to Sweden Hakki Emre Yunt, the Turkish mission has been attacked several times in Stockholm and with every passing day the PKK/YPG supporters are getting emboldened to unleash more violence on Turkish assets and nationals living in the country.

The case of Fatma Zehra S is another addition to the rising intolerance Sweden has been displaying toward Türkiye.



Since then, Professor Carlbring has taken down his Twitter account, and there has not yet been any further communication from the professor or the university.

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What do we as civilian have to do with it? Imagine Turkey do this do Sweden believe the western media would make a news about it. I can not read any news about this, hypocrites.
 
But Turkiye is superior to Greece.

That is the truth.

I could not agree more with @MMM-E

"But mine is longer!" Go, get a job, a girl friend and do something useful. :hitwall: :crazy:


Why do you guys always have to do penis contests!? You both have a mind-set of 6-8 year old stupid school-boys!
 
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What do we as civilian have to do with it? Imagine Turkey do this do Sweden believe the western media would make a news about it. I can not read any news about this, hypocrites.
Dear Fatma,my house is open for you.
 
I agree with Turkey's sentiments here... Harbouring an allies wanted terrorists and criminals is unethical... They should definitely outlaw PKK and FETO plus handover the wanted elements by Ankara

In the tri-party agreement at the NATO summit, it was agreed to follow International Law on extradition.
This means that Turkey has to provide actual proof that the wanted person has committed a crime according to both Swedish and Turkish law.
Sweden follows International Laws on extradition and does not extradite when incompetent Turkish prosecutors ignore this requirement.

When they properly prepare the extradition request, then there is a significant chance there is an extradition.
PKK is considered a terrorist organisation in Sweden.
FETÖ is not, and is not considered a terrorist organisation in NATO nor in the EU.

If a FETÖ member can be proven to have committed a terrorist act, then certainly they will be extradited, but Turkey mainly is looking for journalists and editors that fight the authoritarian Erdogan regime through articles in newspapers.
 
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F16 sales are conditional it seems.

However, Washington’s assent reportedly does come without condition. The unnamed source cited by The Wall Street Journal says the F-16 sale will be dependent on Ankara’s acceptance of Sweden and Finland into the NATO military alliance.
 

F16 sales are conditional it seems.
Turkey makes kilizema and TFX but still begging for F-16s? Something doesn't smell right...Turks definitely don't have confidence with their 'jet fighters' built with foreign engines by the sounds of it.
 
In the tri-party agreement at the NATO summit, it was agreed to follow International Law on extradition.
This means that Turkey has to provide actual proof that the wanted person has committed a crime according to both Swedish and Turkish law.
Sweden follows International Laws on extradition and does not extradite when incompetent Turkish prosecutors ignore this requirement.

When they properly prepare the extradition request, then there is a significant chance there is an extradition.
PKK is considered a terrorist organisation in Sweden.
FETÖ is not, and is not considered a terrorist organisation in NATO nor in the EU.

If a FETÖ member can be proven to have committed a terrorist act, then certainly they will be extradited, but Turkey mainly is looking for journalists and editors that fight the authoritarian Erdogan regime through articles in newspapers.
I just find it very fitting that you would butt heads with Turkey to shelter a very dangerous islamic cult. Typical Swedistan move.
 
Then wait for decade to join the NATO as like Greece blocked Macedonia for 11 year


Turkiye doesnt want money or weapons from Sweden

Turkiye just want PKK and FETO Terrorists from Sweden
and stop supporting PKK terrorism against Turkiye .... ... nothing else


Hang on last I heard from Turkish leader allowed these Scandinavian racist trash to join?

I would like to add one thing here. I would like to ask you who and how which individual discovered and formulated a plan for Norwegian their Scandinavian brothers, to gain a 1 trillion usd + sovereign wealth fund? It also boosted the the wealth and living standard of people from that region.

It secured energy security for Northern and Western Europe and kept their Scandinavian brothers at an arms length from the Soviets.


Who? how and why?

My apologies racist is offensive, oh-pun-furher is better.
 
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Turkey makes kilizema and TFX but still begging for F-16s? Something doesn't smell right...Turks definitely don't have confidence with their 'jet fighters' built with foreign engines by the sounds of it.
Maybe because they will be under serial production after 2027 ? Not like we already have 100 TFX and 50 Kızılelma and we still want to get some F16.
 
I just find it very fitting that you would butt heads with Turkey to shelter a very dangerous islamic cult. Typical Swedistan move.
We believe in the Rule of Law, and that everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty.
Turkey believes in jumping, when Erdogan says ”jump”.
They, for some strange reason, believe that other countries should adopt this rule.
It would be fitting if you could show a single terrorist act committed by any of those Erdogan wants extradited.
 
We believe in the Rule of Law, and that everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty.
Turkey believes in jumping, when Erdogan says ”jump”.
They, for some strange reason, believe that other countries should adopt this rule.
It would be fitting if you could show a single terrorist act committed by any of those Erdogan wants extradited.

270–350 killed[23][24] and 2,185 wounded overall[25]

More than enough to call this a terrorist organization. And you want to shelter them.

If the Russians come, you should cite them the rule of law. That will save you.
 
We believe in the Rule of Law, and that everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty.
Turkey believes in jumping, when Erdogan says ”jump”.
They, for some strange reason, believe that other countries should adopt this rule.
It would be fitting if you could show a single terrorist act committed by any of those Erdogan wants extradited.
One of the Swedish minister is literaly PKK member from it's Iranian branch aka Amineh Kakabaveh and somehow this "illegal PKK" supporters can freely organize protests in Sweden and take illegal taxxes from kurdish migrants in Sweden.
And no.. This issue is not gonna over with Erdogan, PKK start before Erdogan and it will be a problem after Erdogan We literaly threat Syria with invasion at 1999 and freeze our relations with Italy for helping Öcalan. Sweden can choose to keep this peoples insade but this kind of peoples are the reason why there is forbidden zones in malmö and stockholm

 
We believe in the Rule of Law, and that everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty.
Turkey believes in jumping, when Erdogan says ”jump”.
They, for some strange reason, believe that other countries should adopt this rule.
It would be fitting if you could show a single terrorist act committed by any of those Erdogan wants extradited.




lol
 
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