Suspected Paris attacks ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud killed in St-Denis raid

[Vergennes]

If you think so easy you will be unfortunately MAIN TARGET of global terrorism.
Go on. Your Mme. Daniel Mitterand was a "lover" of PKK member KENDAL !

Peshmergas =/= PKK and whatever else.

I stop the posting here. It is without respect and only promotion and stupid propaganda. Au revoir.

I forgot, ESAD a mass murder against his people asked PUTIN for HELP also

Anyway,everyone in the world respect France for having one of the best elite police units in the world (If not the best...).
They are also respected for their profesionalism,their experience and their capabilities to handle any kind of crisis with a strong response.
So your can claim whatever you want.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Read that is CT , Heise and Telepolis......well known for insiders

Der Brandstifter als Biedermann | Telepolis

"Hollande is a global incendiary" they write !

@Taygibay

Peshmergas =/= PKK and whatever else.





Anyway,everyone in the world respect France for having one of the best elite police units in the world (If not the best...).
They are also respected for their profesionalism,their experience and their capabilities to handle any kind of crisis with a strong response.
So your can claim whatever you want.

No other facts or evidence ?

Türkiye is a global power, we have the best military, we have the best police...... oh oh oh it is like to say french 69 ers

 

[-SINAN-]

Okay,you seem to be a troll,i won't even bother to enter in a debate to compare France with Turkey,i think we had enough of that....
@Sinan @xenon54

He is not a troll.....he believes the things he said.....

Although, he has some unorthodox views of the events, situations...etc.. But i never thought things would come into "We are the best, fvck the rest" mentality.....

Oh just noticed, he was being sarcastic....that changes things.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

He is not a troll.....he believes the things he said.....

Although, he has some unorthodox views of the events, situations...etc.. But i never thought things would come into "We are the best, fvck the rest" mentality.....

Oh just noticed, he was being sarcastic....that changes things.

Of course sarcastic.
After our french member wrote that they are the best of the best,
showed no evidence. Didn't answer my precise questions.

@Sinan

 

[-SINAN-]

Of course sarcastic.
After our french member wrote that they are the best of the best,
showed no evidence. Didn't answer my precise questions.

@Sinan

Yeah, i get you.

France is part of NATO. One of the members of UN security council, Nuclear State, Able to produce it's jets, jet engines, operates air craft carrier, have high GDP per Capita. So one would automatically assume that they have one of the best police force in the world. But is it really so ? Can you support this argument with source/proof ?

I totally understand you.

@FrenchPilot ...he is not trolling at all.

 

[Vergennes]

Yeah, i get you.

France is part of NATO. One of the members of UN security council, Nuclear State, Able to produce it's jets, jet engines, operates air craft carrier, have high GDP per Capita. So one would automatically assume that they have one of the best police force in the world. But is it really so ? Can you support this argument with source/proof ?

I totally understand you.

@FrenchPilot ...he is not trolling at all.

Oh then....

Of course sarcastic.
After our french member wrote that they are the best of the best,
showed no evidence. Didn't answer my precise questions.

@Sinan

I didn't say we were the best,i just said,many experts in the world recognize the professionalism,the experience and the capabilities of our SWAT teams. Every Special Police units in the world has their qualities and are all doing the task they are given..... Is there a difference between our units ? Both are dedicated to wipe out the scums out of the surface of the planet and they are well doing their jobs.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Yeah, i get you.

France is part of NATO. One of the members of UN security council, Nuclear State, Able to produce it's jets, jet engines, operates air craft carrier, have high GDP per Capita. So one would automatically assume that they have one of the best police force in the world. But is it really so ? Can you support this argument with source/proof ?

I totally understand you.

@Sinan

I could . Believe me or not. But some information's I could publish here would make you,me and others to targets;
we are already, but no problem. I am one of the good guys, as I believe most of us. But if we would publish some "secrets" wind could change fast. You understand what I try to say ?
I try to write moderate. We are monitored ( some say Paranoid, even they know not the difference between Paranoia and Schizophrenia ), but why to overdo things ?
Remember , I wrote in TR section to Bismarck " Did you ever thought about false flag, would a terrorist place a dummy bomb in a camera monitored ICE-train under the eyes of the other passengers ?"
The so called "bomber" was identified, he went same day to lost luggage office and said that the lost his equipment of an electronic model. He is free and was innocent !
But that was the last main and reason (so called evidence) to cancel the soccer Game GER-NL, that was the last factor for decision making politicians ( not the Police- you can be sure) when everything was fifty fifty.
I wait his, our friend Bismarcks answer.
After some of our postings, you can be sure some media was impressed and they try to avoid to generalize and talk not only about Islam/Muslim terrorists but now they differentiate , they try to write "Dschihadis" !

 

[Vortex]

Guys, i'm Pakistani citizen living in France for more than 30 years. And i can assure you that GIGN, RAID,GIPN and BRI are among the best, the well equiped and the best trained inthe world if not the best.

Tout mes sinceres hommages aux hommes qui au peril de leur vie sauvent des vies et qui peut etre un jour sauveront la mienne.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Anyway,everyone in the world respect France for having one of the best elite police units in the world (If not the best...).
They are also respected for their profesionalism,their experience and their capabilities to handle any kind of crisis with a strong response.

Sounds not so, as you argue now.
But nevertheless, look to my avatar it was solidarity from first day and up to know

@FrenchPilot

Guys, i'm Pakistani citizen living in France for more than 30 years. And i can assure you that GIGN, RAID,GIPN and BRI are among the best, the well equiped and the best trained inthe world if not the best.

Evidence bro. ? Sources bro. ?

 

[Vergennes]

Guys, i'm Pakistani citizen living in France for more than 30 years. And i can assure you that GIGN, RAID,GIPN and BRI are among the best, the well equiped and the best trained inthe world if not the best.

Tout mes sinceres hommages aux hommes qui au peril de leur vie sauvent des vies et qui peut etre un jour sauveront la mienne.

Even the Policiers and Gendarmes should receive the same respect as we give to these elite units. And those that say "fck the police" etc.. Don't realize that these persons are ready,if needed to,to give their lives to save yours.
They should receive the salary of the football players....

 

[Vortex]

Even the Policiers and Gendarmes should receive the same respect as we give to these elite units. And those that say "fck the police" etc.. Don't realize that these persons are ready,if needed to,to give their lives to save yours.
They should receive the salary of the football players....

Yes of course.

Je me suis laissé emporter et perdu de vue leurs courage a aussi, alors que mon voisin est un gendarme a la retraite

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

@Vortex

Some links , subjective opinion of the writers - where is French GIGN, GIPN or RAID ?

Die 10 härtesten Spezialeinheiten der Welt | Ten of the Day

Combat Team Conference (CTC)

SEK Baden-Württemberg gewinnt inoffizielle Weltmeisterschaft der Spezialeinheiten | SEK Einsatz

JORDAN Combat Contest

Jordanien: Russische Spezialeinheit gewinnt 7. "Krieger Wettkampf" — RT Deutsch

 

[Taygibay]

@FrenchPilot CT should be Counter-Terrorism in our context.

I am not however going to discuss Hurshid's claims because it's a classic tool of rhetoric
seen in courts the world over : asking the opponent to prove well-known truths in order for
this very examination to cast doubt by having taken place at all.
Recent PDF rise in such tactics is IMHoO quite telling.

I will however answer his address :
Yes, as time goes by, Hollande is moving away from proper mil use ( Mali / CFA / Barkhane )
& into more politically motivated forays, which is indeed somewhat worrisome to this citizen.

But as long as already here, let me add my on topic opinion :
Reports from the media on the haram lifestyle of the terrorist group should be taken lightly.
That too is a classical tool of ... no not rhetoric but propaganda, against Daesh in this case.

Their deeds are the problem for me, not who they were/are.

Good evening all, Tay.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

@FrenchPilot

I agree with you complete respect to Government Institutions is an universal rule,

but look what is going on !!

Video Evidence :

Greece Coast Guard inflating refugee boat - trying to kill them

Greek MP was shocked after he watched evidence !

Ege Denizi'nde şoke eden görüntüler !

AFP making PKK propaganda and supporting Resistance Kurdie (PKK) in Turkey

hendek kazan pkk'lılar sayfa 1

Ahmet Dahmani , one of the terrorists from Paris caught in Antalya - TR

PARİS SALDIRISINDAKİ IŞİD MİLİTANI TÜRKİYE'DE YAKALANDI

@Taygibay Bon soir. Have a good night. Truth and manipulation are far away ...

 

[Vortex]

Evidence bro. ? Sources bro. ?

Bro everyone request for sources, and i agree with this principal, but the problem with soyrces is how they the performance is evaluated.

You can't use compétition to rank any special force as this is not real scenario.

We can rank them simply by evaluating according their main aim : rescue wirhout loosing hostage... How many forces can claim to have the best hostage survival rate ? But even then situations are not same but at least the main indicator is the hostage survival rate during missions..
I may be wrong but with all sincerity i think very few forces have high level hostages survival rate...