Surya missiles-16000km range ICBMs of India

[justanobserver]

check the link here again and read the whole article kid ,just keep it cool ................

Don't know why you keep pointing me to that article which is not related to to your unsubstantiated statement

FAKE NEWS AGAIN ............. FAS.ORG is just gossip news agency..

Diverting the topic are we?

 

[GORKHALI]

India still in advance stages of completion of indigenous cryogenic engine and we don't have adversaries living in Europe or American continent ,do we ?? even the news article said the same thing...................... think rationally before jumping your guns for B.S here mate.

 

[misterme2]

India doesnt need 16,000Kms missile.. Agni-V is is more than sufficient for our immediate strategic needs.. Infact Agni-III itself is quite adequate.
Our INS Arihant SSBM with K-4 missiles gives us virtual ICBM capability.

Having long range missiles is important because it allows subs to hide from a distance yet still attack when the need arises.....the problem with the K4 is that you are limited by the range and also the sub will have to be in the vicinity of china in order to attack targets deep in China...This makes it susceptible to counterattacks by Chinese Subs and other various platforms......

 

[justanobserver]

India still in advance stages of completion of indigenous cryogenic engine and we don't have adversaries living in Europe or American continent ,do we ?? even the news article said the same thing...................... think rationally before jumping your guns for B.S here mate.

Yes I know fas.org said the exact same thing. But you were the one who claimed FAS is a 'gossip news agency' and the news is fake.

Point is, there is a lot of speculation and rumors, but the rumors are not on some 'gossip agencies' but credible academic sources

 

[GORKHALI]

Don't know why you keep pointing me to that article which is not related to to your unsubstantiated statement



Diverting the topic are we?

arey yaar aint new york times where posting stories about iraq WMD news ??? they din't even found a chemical sh*t there lol...

 

[GORKHALI]

FAS.ORG is just a copy paste agency and lost their face since IRAQI WMD GOOF UP.........................................

 

[Wolfenstein]

I feel India should start another round of peace & confidence building measure with all the neighbouring countries including the stubborn nations. nvesting in arms is a never ending story. We wont be safe even if we have missiles that can wipe out humanity in seconds. With peaces comes prosperity & happiness. Just my 2cents.

 

[GORKHALI]

What Happened to Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction? | Arms Control Association aint FAS and ARMS CONTROL conflicting here now ??

 

[justanobserver]

arey yaar aint new york times where posting stories about iraq WMD news ??? they din't even found a chemical sh*t there lol...

FAS.ORG is just a copy paste agency and lost their face since IRAQI WMD GOOF UP.........................................

FAS is not responsible for exposing nuke secrets, it's an independent agency. Whatever it released during Iraq was copy paste, not independant investigation

Anyways I'll give you the same text from an alternative source (globalsecurity) : Surya - India Missile Special Weapons Delivery Systems

At least one source has reported that a 12,000-km range, 80,000-kg weight ballistic missile, designated Surya, was under development. (1) The status of the Surya [Sun] ICBM program is unclear, with some report indicating that the development of this system was initiated in 1994. Conflicting reports regarding the Surya's configuration claim that it will be based on the components of the polar space launch vehicle (PSLV) and the Agni IRBM, and that it will have a range between 8000 and 12,000 kms. (2)

In October 2005 it was reported that India was developing a three state missile with solid fuel rockets in the first and second stages, and a liquid propellant rocket in the third stage. The launch weight of the missile was said to be 270 to 275 tonnes. The missile could have a 5,480 pound to 7,680 pound releasable front section with two to three warheads of 15 kilo tonne to 20 kilo tonnes each. The ICBM was being developed by combining the technology of the Agni II with that of the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle. It was expected to have a range of more than 8,000 km. At that time it was reported that the ICBM was likely to be test-fired by 2008, and was expected to be added to the Indian armed forces' deterrence arsenal by 2015.

As of 2009 it was reported that the government had not considered an 8,000-km range ICBM.

Rumors and speculations ->yes, but the source is of the speculation is credible !

 

[rkjindal91]

Actually there are many threads on Surya since 2007 on defense.pk.......
@indianpatriot
there was no need to satrt a new thread just for speculations...

MissileThreat :: Surya-1 and 2

Its nothing new just Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from wikipedia...

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

Why can't they integrates Nuclear warheads into GSLV or PSLV and change some sub systems to make a decent 16000km range ICBM.

Even if they have done that they are not going to tell you or me.

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

Project Valiant was one of two early liquid-fueled missile projects developed by India, along with Project Devil in the 1970s. The goal of Project Valiant was to produce an intercontinental ballistic missile. Although discontinued in 1974 without achieving success, Project Valiant, like Project Devil, led to the later development of the Prithvi missile in the 1980s.

Both projects were overseen by the Defense Research & Development Laboratory (DRDL) of India, which had begun in 1958 with a specialization in anti-tank missiles but expanded in subsequent years.[1] Project Valiant was intended to be an intercontinental ballistic missile utilizing 30-ton engines to achieve a range variously reported as 1,500 kilometers (932 mi) and 8,000 kilometers (4,971 mi).[2][3][4] The secret project was initially funded with a few hundred thousand rupees after the presentation of a feasibility report in April 1971, but in June 1972, DRDL received 160 million rupees to fund both projects. The money came with a veil of secrecy; the Union Cabinet had publicly declined the funding request, but Prime Minister Indira Gandhi had granted it secretly through her discretionary powers.[5] In turn, DRDL took pains to disguise the purpose of the funds so that their real work would not be immediately apparent. That year, the DRDL began to expand rapidly, increasing its workforce from 400 to 2,500 people over a two year period in an effort to meet staffing needs of both the Valiant and Devil projects.[5]

The Valiant missile was anticipated to weigh 85 tons and to use three liquid fuel stages.[4] In 1972, the lab began to work on designing and developing various components for the Valiant,[5] and the project reached the phase of ground testing on 10 May 1974.[4] However, internal disputes disrupted the DRDL, as the leader of the Valiant project believed the DRDL's director was disproportionately invested in Project Devil, and external interest in both programs waned.[5] That same year, the Union Cabinet asked the director of the DRDL to evaluate whether civilian uses could be found at the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) for Valiant's liquid-fuel engine.[5] The ISRO declined, and since the Valiant project was not progressing satisfactorily and it was not well-managed, the project was terminated.[4][5]

According to a 2006 article by Praful Bidwai in The Daily Star, Project Valiant "totally failed", while its sister project was a partial success.[6] Though neither reached fruition, the projects were important precursors to the Prithvi missile developed in the 1980s.
[7]Project Valiant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jha]

SURYA is non existent...It was a rumor started by internet warriors...

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Rather than going for an ICBM , it would make more sense if we developed long range SLBM with MIRVs

 

[angeldemon_007]

Its nothing new just Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from wikipedia...

Bhai.... there's a huge difference between wiki and missilethreat. You should read the article, its decent and bit more reliable than other sources.