Sunni Muslims stop funeral of man alleged to be Ahmadi

[Jaanbaz]

Why would We tolerate someone who tries to corrupt our beliefs? If you say, you still follow the Ghulam mirza qadiyani, who claimed to be mehdi, then Prophet Jesus, and then being another prophet sent to earth, then still how could you be muslim?

This isn't a religious thread. But to qualify as Muslim one must believe in the Shahadah which Ahmadis do so we are Muslims and will continue to call ourselves Muslims.

 

[Areesh]

700 day old news

Happened in the Capital of "secular" India.

By the way first force Indian personal law board to allow representation of Ahmadis then come here and lecture us on this issue. Do try.

 

[Bobby]

stop fingering in other's matter.....

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Please accept my apologies. I did know about some cases of injustice. But I had no real clue about this Ordinance. If I am correct - this basically makes a community non-Muslim by Law! Looks more like the 1935 Nuremberg Laws. Other than that I don't know what to say. Scary actually.

This is from Ordinance XX 1984 of Pakistan's constitution:
298-C. Person of Qadiani group, etc., calling himself a Muslim or preaching or propagating his faith: Any person of the Qadiani group or the Lahori group (who call themselves 'Ahmadis' or by any other name), who directly or indirectly, poses himself as a Muslim, or calls, or refers to, his faith as Islam, or preaches or propagates his faith, or invites others to accept his faith, by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representations, or in any manner whatsoever outrages the religious feelings of Muslims shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine.

 

[Jaanbaz]

But what happened in the land of Britain? You seem to be even more frustrated.

If the man was really an Ahmadis trust me our community would have taken the issue to the courts or the relevent authorities. It seems like some jealous Sunni spread a rumor about his own brother.

 

[Areesh]

If the man was really an Ahmadis trust me our community would have taken the issue to the courts or the relevent authorities. It seems like some jealous Sunni spread a rumor about his own brother.

But still looks like you are not accepted in UK too.

 

[Always Neutral]

But what happened in the land of Britain? You seem to be even more frustrated.

I agree with him such incidents should not happen in UK. A person is dead and somebody spreads a rumour and the law does not intervene. Bad for UK in the future. I have no problems if this happened in India, Saudi or Pakistan. My house my rules. At this moment nothing stops Ahmediyas calling themselves Muslims here.

 

[Dubious]

Lea Bridge Road Mosque's management stopped a funeral at the last minute after claims the dead man was non-Muslim

Mosque leaders denied a popular mini-cab driver a proper funeral, according to his friends

The body of Khalid Mahmood, who died of a heart attack last Wednesday aged 52, had been prepared for the funeral prayer in Lea Bridge Road Mosque when allegations emerged that he belonged to the Ahmadi sect, which is not recognised as Muslim by Sunnis.

The mosque committee then stopped the funeral in order to keep peace they say, but friends say Mr Mahmood was disrespected and that the mosque’s actions only increase sectarianism.

One friend, Tanveer Khan, 57, a Walthamstow estate agent, said: “In a modern democracy this kind of discrimination should not happen.”

Another friend, Shahid Dastgir Khan, also 57, an Ilford solicitor and human rights activist, said: “These actions increase hatred between sects.

“The issue uniting us is common humanity and there is no place for using religion to divide people.”

The friends said Mr Mahmood’s family in Pakistan and his Pakistani passport verified he was a Sunni Muslim but mosque management said they did not have the proof at the time.

Chaudhry Khalid Hussain, president of the group that manages the mosque, Waltham Forest Islamic Association, said the allegations emerged only minutes before Friday prayer and that there was insufficient time to determine whether Mr Mahmood was Muslim or not.

Thus he said the decision was made to cancel the funeral as neither side could definitively prove their point.

“If he is not Muslim we are not allowed to have his prayer,” Mr Hussain said.

“Friday was Eid so I did not want to spoil Eid celebrations and Friday prayer.

“If we had broken Islamic law there may have been violence and argument. What we did was in the name of peace in the community.”

Nearly £1,000 was raised in the name of the deceased for the funeral, which Mr Hussain says can be collected back by those who donated should they wish, otherwise the money will be used the next time a Muslim cannot afford a funeral.

Another friend, Munib Anwar, said: “The money was not the problem, the man was not given a respectable funeral.”

Mr Mahmood had lived in Cleveland Park Avenue, Walthamstow, for around 20 years before staying with a friend in Haringey after health issues in April.

Ahmadiyya Times: UK: Sunni mosque stops funeral at the last minute after claims the dead man was an Ahmadi

Why didnt his friends from Walthamstow and Ilford get his funeral done there? Everyone only knows how to talk...from Walthamstow to Lea Bridge is not very close! I mean why didnt Walthamstow nor Ilford give him a funeral? bus bol na ata hai...

that Lea Bridge mosque mind you @nick_indian is run by Gujji Indians!

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Happened in the Capital of "secular" India.

By the way first force Indian personal law board to allow representation of Ahmadis then come here and lecture us on this issue. Do try.

This is what your article says - " An exhibition on Quran and the message of Islam being held here was called off Saturday mid-way through its schedule after facing protests from other Muslim groups. "

With all due respect - if calling someone good Muslim and someone bad Muslim is okay...I really have nothing more to say. I must admit, forget lecture, I am astounded and silenced.

 

[Dubious]

If the man was really an Ahmadis trust me our community would have taken the issue to the courts or the relevent authorities. It seems like some jealous Sunni spread a rumor about his own brother.

Lea Bridge mosque is gujji Indian...Deobandi if I am not wrong

 

[Always Neutral]

But still looks like you are not accepted in UK too.

We do get a lot of hard-core illegal idiots from Countries which we should stop immediately. Never heard about this kind of discrimination against a dead man all over a rumour.

 

[Bratva]

This isn't a religious thread. But to qualify as Muslim one must believe in the Shahadah which Ahmadis do so we are Muslims and will continue to call ourselves Muslims.

Now don't try to pull this stunt off, Still following a fake prophet as a reformer and then says we believe in shahada. How could following Mirza, a fake prophet, and believing in shahada goes hands in hand?

Looks like you don't even know what your so called "reformer" said about himself, you need to read your own reformer books and history closely!

 

[KingMamba]

Dawah for what? To become like modern day cave men and not being able to tolerate other peoples beliefs? Thanks but no thanks.

They are nearly 2 billion Muslims in the world, if you want to equate all of them as being modern day cave men then why try and get sympathy from us cavemen by creating threads like this?

 

[Jaanbaz]

But still looks like you are not accepted in UK too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN78r6lGj0o

 

[Dubious]

But still looks like you are not accepted in UK too.

Lea Bridge Masjid or Madina Masjid is run by:
Radical Gujji Indians they have a fight every other time...I know a few people living around there...it is yet another masjid which doesnt allow Women in like the 1 near our place!